This thread was inspired by Spooky’s thread located here:
http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-afterlife-knowledge/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=a...

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Hi Spooky,

Yes I think there is much similarity to what I have seen and understand about the different levels of our being.  My feelings about these creative energies are from a healing perspective and based on my personal experience and understanding of them.  I feel there are 10 of these levels existing in four dimensions in which we as human beings exist.  We usually talk about these as being separate but in actuality they are not.  Beginning with the deepest spiritual level, each penetrates down through each of the others to the physical body.  In other words, each has an affect as it penetrates downward to create the physical.

I’ll also mention that I believe everyone incarnate is on a healing path regardless of his or her customs, religious or so called new age beliefs. To me, this seems apparent. Everyone is a healer and has healing abilities inborn within them regardless of whether or not they label themselves as such.  This is our birthright and it is something that is not separate from us. Nor is it something esoteric or beyond anyone’s reach. I believe that at the collective whole of universal purpose consciousness of intention, where there are no adversaries, healing ourselves is an inborn purpose for each of us.

I also believe that scientific evidence exists where bioenergy fields have been measured with devices such as the EEG, EKG, SQUID, plus light and electrical sensing devices, etc. Many studies have shown that the bioenergy field is directly related to our physical body and that the patterns of the body’s electrical field change with the physiological and psychological changes as we experience these. One study that I found particularly interesting was one done by a nuclear physicist, Dr. Robert Beck who measured the brainwaves of healers from all over the world and found that all healers exhibited the same pattern of about 8 Hz while these people were giving a healing regardless of what their individual beliefs and customs were.  There are many studies, but Dr. Valerie Hunt from UCLA and Dr. Andria Puharich are two others that I’ll mention. Dr. Puharich was consistently able to measure an 8 Hz magnetic pulse coming from the hands of healers.  That’s all I’ll mention since this will be a long post anyway.  Google to find more info if your interested.

I consider the first level of our being as the body manifested in the physical world, which I think can be related to what is sometimes called the first dimension.  The physical world is held intact by the energy and consciousness of the deeper levels, which again are not really levels because they interpenetrate from the spiritual downward to the physical.  The rest of the levels make up our creative energies in which I believe exist in 3 deeper dimensions. Each of these levels exists at subsequently higher frequencies of vibration and each appears to serve a specific unique purpose when considered as a piece of the energetic matrix.

The second dimension is the energetic matrix or structure from which the physical is formed and carries the energies of our personality and all of the feelings we have. This is what is usually considered the levels of the auric field in association with seven major chakras.

The third dimension is where our intention originates or where we hold our intentions.  Our intentions are incredibly important in the creative process. When our intentions are aligned with our self and others we tap into tremendous creative ability in which we also align with universal purpose where there is no adversity. I consider this as the ninth level and at a deeper dimension than the auric field as associated with the seven chakras.

The fourth dimension or the tenth level is what I call our divine essence or higher self.  This can be likened to the probe of curiosity described in Bruce’s books.  It is the divine inner source within from which all of our human creativity flows. I have come to believe that it is at this core level of our being where we are able to consciously hold our “humanism in a warm embrace” and thus allow the free flow of energy called PUL to up well and penetrate downward through all of our creativity. I’ve mentioned this before, but at this point I don’t believe PUL is emotional in nature, but is neutral energy of our core essence that when flowing freely down through all levels of our being feels very pleasurable and good to us and thus we have labeled it pure unconditional love.

As the energy of our core up wells and moves downward through the next dimension of our intention it’s consciousness becomes either negative or positive pleasure in expression depending on the intention from which it passed through, which is why anger or rage can feel just as good as positive pleasure such as that of expressing gratitude for example.  It’s the movement of the energy itself that feels good when it flows freely in expression. I think the consciousness of intention is based on belief and that the dual nature of this doesn’t actually manifest in the physical until after the energy passes through the heart chakra level which I consider to be the bridge connecting the spiritual levels with the physical levels.

Second Dimension – Levels of our aura
The second level of our being is what is sometimes called the first level of the energy field that surrounds us. It is usually associated with the first chakra. The color of the aura of this level is most often a light blue or aqua blue and extends up to an inch out from the skin.  This level is sometimes called the etheric or the physical level of our energy field because there’s a direct correlation of what we feel in our physical body. For example, if a local anesthetic is given to numb the skin, the pulsating aura of this first level will stop flowing in that area until the anesthetic wears off.  Seeing things like this is actually pretty cool and with practice I think anyone can see this level of our being in action. 

I think healing has much to do with meeting our own needs from both a physiological and psychological perspective on each level of our existence.  To be healthy on this physical level we need to have the pleasure of feeling our physical body and enjoy all of the sensations of our body such as those we experience with our senses of seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching, a sense of strength and vitality, physical activity such as exercise, physical contact, sexual pleasures, sleeping, eating, etc.  How many of us don’t always get enough sleep or eat healthy food or have enough contact such as touching another human?  Not meeting these kinds of physical needs weakens this level of our being.

The third level of our being or the second level of the energy field is associated with the second chakra and the emotions we have or feel for our self.  The movement of energy through this level directly correlates to how we feel toward our self. All colors or energy are found in this level.  Bright and clear colors usually indicate positive and loving feelings toward self.  Dark clouded colors indicate negative feelings toward self.  Our primary needs on this level are to feel comfortable with and enjoy our emotional relationship with our self. A favorite affirmation of mine regarding this is “I love me just the way I am, no matter what way that may be.”

The fourth level of our being or the third level of our field that I associate with the third solar plexus chakra is our intellectual or the mental activity level. The healthy aura of this level is a light lemon yellow.  When this level is in balance, then our rational and intuitive mind work together as one and our mind is clear and in a learning type of mode.  When these three physical, emotional and intellectual levels are all balanced, there’s harmony in the way we think and feel and our experience is having clarity, wisdom and sensing that which is appropriate.

The fifth level of our being or the fourth level of our field is associated with the heart chakra. This level is all about our relationships and like the emotional level contains all colors.  I consider this to be the bridge between the three physical levels and the next three spiritual levels. Our needs on this level are to have all kinds of healthy interactions and relationships with other people and the things of the world.  It is also my feeling that as the energy moves down through this level into the three physical levels of the energy field that duality is created.  One experience I had that leads me to believe this is that when my father passed on as he left his body the three lower physical levels of his energy field dissolved and all that was left were the higher ones.

The sixth level of our being or the fifth level of our aura is the associated with the throat chakra and is the spiritual template for the physical level of our field.  It’s also blue in color, but more of a darker shade than the first aura level. What this looks like is a bit complicated because of its purpose, which is basically divine will manifested into physical form.  This level is one of symbols and has the feeling of powerful will and purpose held within it. If we are healthy on this level our life is orderly because our will is functioning well and we feel connected to our greater purpose in life whatever that may be.

The seventh level of our being or the sixth level of our aura is associated with the brow chakra and looks like beams of light that are all the colors of the rainbow extending out a little over two feet from the body. This level is where we experience divine love and spiritual ecstasy, joy, and bliss.  We reach this level through meditation, listening to music, chanting, watching the sunset, etc. and we experience a great spiritual expansiveness that encompasses the entire world and all beings in it.

The eighth level of our being or the seventh level of our aura is associated with the crown chakra, is egg shaped, golden in color and extends three feet or so from the body.  This level of the aura serves as a protector of everything within it. Sometimes people will say they need their three feet of space… I think that’s because of the protectiveness of this very strong aura level, which prevents energy from within the field from leaking out and also prevents undesired energy coming into our field. It is on this level that we have creative ideas and clearly understand and grasp the broad concepts of our spiritually divine existence and the patterns and purposes of life itself. 

Third Dimension - Intention
The ninth level of our being is the level of our intention or where we hold intentions according to our beliefs. It is the level where the hara is located, as well as what is called the high heart or soul seat.  The hara is considered the center of power and is located in the lower belly.  The high heart is located between the heart and throat chakras. At this level of consciousness is a white line with a golden hue that begins above the head and runs down through the center of the body down into the earth and passes through both the hara and the high heart. I believe this is the central channel in which vital life energy runs. This level brings to us our passion for accomplishing the things we want in our life. This level carries our life’s purpose for this incarnation. It is where we will find our deepest longing to accomplish all that we want to accomplish.

Very few people are able to hold this line straight for any length of time, but when we do we are synchronized with the whole. On a physical level when our intention is aligned we have a strong sense of personal purpose and integrity because we are synchronized with universal purpose.  This feeling is one of complete freedom because there are no adversaries. When this line of light is straight and in alignment our intentions are clearly defined.  This alignment begins with self-intention and expands to include groups.  For example, if you and a group of people have a project that you are working on together and everyone’s intentions are aligned, the project will flow freely and smoothly to completion.

On the other hand, people who take adversarial positions could not possibly be in alignment because universal purpose has no adversaries.  People who are in alignment automatically align with others who are also synchronized with universal purpose.  The like attracts like principle.  The straighter we hold this line of light, more aligned we are with our purpose, the more positive intent we have and the reverse is also true… to the extent we are not aligned, it is in that exact same degree that we have negative intent.  For example, people working on a project whose intentions are not in alignment may have one person doing sloppy work, another person procrastinating and everyone arguing.

I think one of the reasons we are not able to hold this line straight and create the things we want is because many times we have cross-purposes consisting of contradictory beliefs that cause us to have intentions that are unclear, mixed or opposed to each other. In the moments where we are truly unified beings, we are merged in and synchronized with universal purpose.  To some this may appear as passivity because of the lack of adversity, however, it is not.  It is the emergence of both active positive intention aligned with passive universal purpose which manifests in a complete sense of free flowing energy felt within the physical being as PUL and that of having a great sense on oneness with all that is. The energy which up wells from our core is always in movement downward through all of the levels of our being. 

This past year of so I have started to learn more about this level of our being and I have started to think that this level of intention carries much more than what I had originally thought. I think this level of our being carries our reason to be incarnate or the purpose of our incarnation. I think it also may carry consciousness of intention that makes us and all beings of the earth what we are.  For example, why is a maple tree a maple tree and not an oak tree? Why is a rabbit a rabbit and not a mouse? Why are some babies male and not female?  Of course we explain this genetically from a physical perspective, but all that is created, is created with specific purpose from the higher spiritual and I’ve started to think that this is the level of consciousness that carries the intention of purpose to create this basic nature of all things.

Fourth Dimension – Our Divine Essence
The tenth level of our being is the level of our divine essence or our innermost core that is often thought of as our higher self. When I’m able to raise my frequency of vibration to this level people look like beautiful shining stars or what I have called Lights of Love because that is what this level feels like to me. Everyone is a beautiful, divinely unique light of love shining brightly.

This is the level from which the movement of our essence up wells and flows from.  When we meditate and look within this is the level we are reaching from which all of our goodness flows and we recognize it easily as we have known it since birth. It is the source of our creative energies. It is our most reliable guidance because it is full of wisdom, courage and love. No negative experience can really taint or contaminate this part of us, however our negative experiences can shroud or cover it so that we don’t recognize it clearly.

Everything we have ever done in our life has arisen from the consciousness of our divine essence and it always carries positive, unqualified divine intentions with positive, unqualified pleasure as it flows downward.  As it moves through the levels of our being to the physical every act, everything we have created has flowed from this source. When these divine creative energies flow directly and freely down to the physical we create health and healing, and we feel the tremendous joy of being alive in the physical world.

Conclusion
My understanding of these ten levels of our being is a result of my life’s work or my deepest longing to know and understand who we really are. I think I have only just begun to answer this question for myself as I continue to learn much every day and in every moment of my life. Are there more levels and dimensions of our being and can we experience these while physically alive? That’s one of the questions I have that keeps me intrigued with these afterlife boards. From what I have seen people write about, I would say yes we do exist in other levels and dimensions and I wonder how the experience of things like NDE, AP, retrievals, the Monroe focus levels and of course Bruce’s work is related to my experience of the vibration levels I’ve described here or are they related at all? A lingering question that I have is regarding the Monroe focus levels of vibration and how they may be similar or not similar to my experience of the higher frequencies.  It is in this way that I continue my search.

The above levels that I’ve described are condensed from my book, which should be online sometime next year for those of you who would like to know more.  In it I have gone into much greater detail of my experiences and how all of these are related to answering the question of who we really are both as physical beings and as spiritual beings.  I also believe that much of what I have described here is related to our shift in consciousness or what some call our ascension. One thing that I have concluded, is that what has been called salvation is within each of us regardless of our culture, customs, religion or new age beliefs. Salvation appears to be what I call the healing process that comes directly from the healer within each of us, which is our divine core essence.

Much love to all,
Kathy

Thank you for this Kathy.

With Love, Mairlyn

Regarding the advisary question:

On the one hand all of time has already taken place (that's the conclusion I've come to so far), and therefore everything has already worked out so that all beings have found their place with God (perhaps a few got lost**).

On the other hand, part of what caused everything to work out as the illusion of time played out, is that numerous beings took the steps that enabled the above to take place.

I believe that the more a person sees that God has set things up so that everything works out in the end, the more such a person will have a non-adversarial position when working to work things out.

Consider a microcosm of paying attention to God's overall plan. If a person does a retrievel, should he or she yell at the spirit he or she is trying to help?

**I wrote "perhaps a few got lost," because Bruce Moen wrote that some spirits get so lost in darkness, that they get disconnected from their disc and eventually disintegrate. Going by my own experience, I don't know if this is true.

Justin:

Well, hopefully it doesn't happen too often. If I had the choice of existing eternally as a negative being, or not existing at all, I'd rather not exist at all. It's a good thing that there is a much better choice.

  Recoverer read carefully what Kathy wrote, Quote:


  Sounds to me, like she is saying exactly what i thought she was?

  Besides, i was just asking for clarification of this, and then gave my beliefs if she actually did mean this.

Hi Alysia, Marilyn and Albert,

Thank you all for your comments.  I appreciate them.

Love, Kathy

 Kathy, in a non-dualistic reality, aren't those who are "adversaries" or play that "role" temporarily, also necessary?

 For example in the work situation you give, couldn't someone through conflict, disagreement, or tension, actually help others to get their stuff more together in some manner?

 So, should physical Earth just be one big place of super harmonious, agreeing, like minded individuals when the huge majority of its inhabinants are not Source immersed?

 Isn't this kind of missing out on the cosmic point of what physical Earth is for.

 What Soul grows only in complete harmony and like minded situations?

 If there is no challenge, can their be great growth?

 I dunno, i just don't fully get what you mean, and maybe i'm still reading it wrong?

Peace

Justin said:  So, should physical Earth just be one big place of super harmonious, agreeing, like minded individuals when the huge majority of its inhabinants are not Source immersed?
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I think its like the idea of we all live here, and each of us have a unique way of our own viewing points....but they are all just singular viewing points. a viewing point by itself is not right or wrong..it just is. each viewpoint is at the same time a limited viewpoint.
in a meditative state, one might have temporarily, a greatly expanded viewpoint which changes their life.
also, we have choice where each one chooses to focus their attention within this life, a singular life. again, not a good or bad choice, just a choice where to focus.
some will focus on creating harmony.
some bandmembers make a dischordant sound and call that groovy. (oh, please!) some kids like that sound. I don't.
as a singular unit, I cannot focus on both forms of music, so I focus where my preference is.
at the same time, I can live and let live, I don't need to be in the same room with another who focuses on disharmony, but I don't need to waste my time judging that they should enjoy my music, but they don't, so don't need to feel threatened if somebody doesn't like my horn tootin'.
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who is to say, who is source immersed and who is not source immersed?
this is a type of folly to say that one can tell who is source immersed and who is not. better to come from an understanding that ALL peoples are source immersed, even if I may have to tell them, they are source immersed, by showing them that I am source immersed. Judgment is mine, sayeth the Lord. leave it to the Lord then, that judgment is His, and steal not what is not yours to steal. another way of saying this is that we all live in glass houses, so is best not to throw stones, or we are all going to end up living in the woods, in bunkers because we have killed each other off.
its what I choose to see in another, is what I will see. even in the killer I retrieved once, I saw what was good in him, and so I did not end up getting myself killed. thats how we make a better world, where we can live in peace even though we are very different people. we can choose to see the good. the word good comes from the word God.
we can focus on the bad, the evil, and this too will show itself then, as true! because we are creators, we are creating our circumstance as well by what we are choosing to focus in on. it is to say...prepare for war, that is what you are creating. lay down your arms, and your life will be extended.

it is all a choice of what u wish to experience with your five physical senses here, but now we begin to develop a 6th sense. to take
adversarial positions is what we do by nature. we even have wars here on Earth and call it good and necessary. my thought is, that wars give us a chance to learn how to die. when you are tired of living and dying over and over again, you come to a place where you want to experience what sublime peace would feel like to experience and be that, just once maybe..just once. it might be a very good thing..it might be an entirely different planet as well. then again, the pleasures and spoils of war are so inbred in us, we may need some help to change our DNA, we may need to be given a vision, if we would stop injuring each other on this planet.