Actually quite agree with the above Brendan, and i'm a vegetarian.

  If you're going to eat meat, then why not go out and hunt it yourself?

I respect the hell out of Native American tribes and most, if not all them ate meat.

  I'm not a vegetarian so much because i think i'm making an animal suffer cause it dies...most of us creatures die...  I see nothing whatsoever wrong with death.

Its mostly because meat is very acid producing and the heavier meats if consumed consistently and in large quanities can really lower ones energy levels...  Fowl and fish don't really do this so much.

But when you get into the question/comments you made about pigs, cattle, chickens that are grown commercially for our sick appetites...then i think that's a nice benefit of being a vegetarian, not contributing to that kind of sick system. 

  LOL new axis of evil  DAMN RIGHT!!!

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     well i know you were making fun of me a bit, but i couldn't help but chuckle at this reply!  Thanks for the laugh btw.  I've been a bit too serious lately, i think. 

  I moved down to Virginia a couple months ago, and its nothing like MA as far as having abundant, and relatively inexpensive organic stores.  When i lived in Amerherst MA it was great...

Now we drive about an hour and a half to the stores, and thats just one way.  We also are paying almost twice of what we payed up in MA for the same amount of food... It sucks bigtime, but principles are principles and i'd brather be broke--thats just me.  Other than bills, i buy nothing other than food really.

  I eat very little lately, so that helps somewhat, but its still rather expensive.  We thought VA was going to be cheaper than MA, and in some respects it is...others no way.

  If you like meat, etc. and live near some woods, couldn't you hunt deer, wild turkey, etc.?   Maybe not, don't know where you live.

  Well take care, and i very much understand that for some people its just not feasable.  Some people can afford it, if they have access to it i believe.

  In the next 3 years or so, people in America are going to have to get back to the old ways of self farming, gathering, and hunting.  Won't be much choice to the matter, especially for the poor, and there will be much more poor then.  My Fiance and I are going to buy some land before then, and start some veggie and fruit tree farming, and have goats...part of the reason we moved to VA--cheaper, overall more fertile land, and better growing climate.....

  Thus spoketh the high and mighty Ra

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  The way i look at it, what's the lesser of the two evils so to speak?

  Support a system which really mistreats animals their whole life and makes them live in horrendous conditions... which also contributes greatly to the pollution and pesticide problems we have...and puts a lot of money into the CEO's pockets who already have enough and could care less about their fellow man...

  Or say NO to the system, and go out and hopefully mercifully kill your own food, which i might add is generally a lot cheaper and healthier too?

Or even better yet, treat the Temple like it is meant to be treated, keeping it clean, harmonioius, and free of slow vibrating and dense matter, which only depletes energy and makes it that much harder for us to better express the higher emotional, mental, and spiritual attributes?

  Hmmm...tough one for me.  Love, or UnLove?   You always have a choice and it always pertains to EVERYTHING.

  So the high and mighty Ra admonished the Bob. 

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  True enough Boris, true enough.  But maybe we are a lot more than just nature?

  If that was the case, then maybe a whole different set of rules would apply for us?

  Hi Boris,

  I both agree and disagree...its hard for me to put into words how i feel, or what i sense about this issue...

  I think Source is very much expressed in nature, and death and physical pain aside, there is an amazing harmony to all of nature, a balancing act which is just awe-inspiring...

  I think this is how we can perceive "God" in nature, but you're right nature is pretty indifferent...but in a way, so isn't God to some degree.  God is very "detached" i think.  Yet personal to every individual Soul...

Strange stuff eh.....

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     I'm shaking in my little booties!   

Goodnight old friend    I got tonight off, and am enjoying vegging till late in the morn.

BTW, a little rice in with beans somehow takes away the gas. Beano never did work for me. Just a little tidbit of beans and what they do to us.

Namaste,
Mairlyn