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presence holding me down
Nov 20th, 2005 at 11:28am
 
This has happened to me in the past few years, but today, it happened to me 5 times in an hour and it is very frightening.
I awake, then I try and fall back to sleep and as I am starting to drift back, I feel this awful presence come up around me (i'm usually laying on my side) I hear scary sounds, like a monster in my ear saying "rrraaarrrr" I know it sounds silly, but this IS what happens. Then I'm paralyzed and scared. I try to move my fingers and it feels like they are wiggling and try with all my strength to move my arms and fight this presence that is holding me down, I can't do anything. Then finally it goes away. When it comes back though, I know it's going to happen, and I try and stop it by trying to get out of bed, but it gets me first before I can move and starts all over again. This last episode though, I felt I couldn't breathe or swallow, so that made me even more scared.
This is different than the buzzing noise that I would get and felt like I was rocking and got out of body.... this IS a presence that I just really have tried my best to describe and it's scary and I don't know what to do to stop it. Any help would be so appreciated.
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Aras
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Reply #1 - Nov 20th, 2005 at 6:35pm
 
It sounds like episodic paralysis related to going out of body.  Just as people have OOB experiences, the normal senses change, and sounds often can be just as described. 

Bob Monrore described being attacked by a monster on his back when he had his experiences.  He had let his beard grow, and found after a while, that it was not a monster.  When he felt there was a monster on his back grabbing him, he reached back once, and felt his own scruffy beard.  He was merely having troubles separating from his body, and mistook his own sleeping form for a monster.

My advice is to use your own conscious intent to change the situation.  When you meditate and are relaxed, speak to yourself as you connect to the bigger whole.  Ask that these experiences change (you may ask for protection or divine guidance too).  Tell yourself with certainty that things will improve.  Remove your fear from the situation.  Recognize it, then banish it.

You may end up having significant travels on your own.

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Reply #2 - Nov 20th, 2005 at 7:09pm
 
Dear Aras, Doc has some good advice, these things are easier to banish than you might think. if u really think it's a presence my only suggestion is to engage it in dialogue within your own mind. see what you can find out what is it's origination.
I've found in 99.9% of the time presences or spirits have no interest in attacking people and I'm inclined to think the separation of the astral body from the physical is at first a profoundly frightening experience. the other night I was receiving PUL and for a minute it sounded like a train was rumbling through my body! so the sounds in itself means basically nothing to get excited about, and nothing can harm the intrinsic you no matter what dimension you are surfing. you are safe, but you are the one who has to discover this.

one more thing, once I couldn't breath either when I was making the separation, but it wasn't somebody else creating that not breathing thing..it did stop me for awhile from exploring though.
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Reply #3 - Nov 21st, 2005 at 11:18am
 
Hello Aras:

This post is based on the assumption that a spirit might be trying to bother you. "Assumption" is the word, because I can't say for certain what's happening with you. I'm considering this possibility, because I don't know what the sound you hear has to do with a typical out of body experience. It is also possible that the presence of a spirit, might be causing the vibrational state to happen for you.

How do you feel now? Despite some fear you might have about the episodes you experienced, do you feel like your yourself? If so, this suggests that if indeed some spirit is trying to give you a hard time, it doesn't really have the power to do anything to harm you.

Except to try to scare you with those cheap Hollywood sound effects.  If it really had the power to do something significant, I doubt that it would resort to such cheap tactics. Perhaps it is a low vibration earth bound spirit that gets off on scarring people.

Send it some love, and let it know that your committed to something way beyond it's meaningless games. Suggest that it stop wasting its time hanging around the physical, and that it instead seeks a way in which it can find real happiness. Ask your guides to contact this lost spirit's guides, just in case they aren't around.

If you haven't contacted your guides (guide), don't worry, because your guides can hear you. Tell the spirit to see its guide. If you get the sense that it's denying the presence of a guide, insist that its guide is there, and won't stop being there simply because it won't acknowledge its presence.

If you can't see or hear this presence long enough, this is okay. Instead just go through the above with your imagination. Since your imagination represents thought energy, the spirit that might be around can't hide from your imagination. And imagination comes from within, so trust it. Just be sincere in your purpose, and you'll be okay.

If you do this, you'll be a service to yourself, the lost spirit, and whoever else it might be annoying with its cheap scare tactics.

There is even the possibility that one of your own guides is making this noise, in order to help you get over some fears you have. Doing what I suggest could help you get over them.  

P.S. The fact that you are free to read this, shows that you have nothing to worry about. The love in your heart is much stronger than anything a prankster spirit might have.

Also, sometimes sound effects do come with out of body experiences. Does the sound you hear actually sound like a voice, or does it sound like a roaring or rushing sound, that something other than a voice would make?

Here's a post with a similar experience.

http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-afterlife-knowledge/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=a...


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