Justin2710 said:  "By the inherent nature of Eastern cultures, they have over-emphasized the passive, pure perceiving, and Right brain aspect of "God"....  The void....

 By the inherent nature of Western culture, they have over emphasized the active, interpreting, and Left brain aspect...

Neither one has it quite right by itself."  
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I agree with the above.

When I first started having spiritual experiences, I'd see that everything abides in pure awareness.

After 2-3 years of seeing things this way, I found out about kundalini, and meditated from that perspective for about a year or two.

Then I found out about non-dual teachings, such as advaita vendanta (Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadata Maharaj, Yoga Vasistha, the Upanishads, Astavakra Gita, Advahut Gita, etc.) and Chan Buddhism (Chinese Buddhism before it became Japanese Zen, e.g., Huang Po).

At this time I felt as if kundalini got in the way of experiencing pure awareness, so I wouldn't allow my kundalinin to arise anymore.

Eventually, I became wiser and allowed my kundalini to come back to life. As a result, I'm able to connect to aspects of God's existence that I couldn't connect to before.

The Eastern awareness/void approach basically speaks of phenomenal existence as nothing but an illusion. The only thing that truly exists is pure awareness or Sat Chit Ananda (consciousness, existence, bliss). Chan Buddhists will say the "One Mind."

The Eastern approach doesn't talk about things such as spirit guides, higher self in a disc sense, focus 27 etc. Even the schools that talk about kundalini, often talk about it in a limited way.

They don't even talk about love that much, unless you're directing it to your "beloved" Guru, who won't tell you anything about spirit guides and higher self.

Right now I feel as if the creative aspect of God is just as much him, as awareness is. Plus pure, unconditional love has a lot to do with it to.

In order to see that God is everywhere, you don't need to look as his creation as nothing but an illusion that never existed. Rather, even what he creates is him.

It is possible that once we clearly see that linear time doesn't exist, we'll also see that this time based World we experience doesn't exist either. But this doesn't mean that God's creative aspect, and the boundless energy with which he creates doesn't also exist.

I feel the idea of balancing male (active) and female (passive) energy as described here sometimes and in some books sounds rather esoteric.  These descriptions sometimes make it sound like these states are only attainable to a select few.  The fact is everyone experiences this balance to some degree every single day of his or her life.  Active is simply intention, which exists on a deeper dimension of our being and passive is being in a state of acceptance (silence) or a willingness to receive, which has no judgment of experience, but rather is an observer of creativity.

When the deeper level of our intention is aligned with the deeper essence of our being we are synchronized with the whole.  On a physical level when aligned, we have a strong sense of personal purpose and integrity because we are synchronized with universal purpose.  This feeling is one of complete freedom because there are no adversaries.

People who take adversarial positions could not possibly be in alignment because universal purpose has no adversaries.  People who are in alignment automatically align with others who are also synchronized with universal purpose.  The more aligned we are, the more positive intent we have and the reverse is also true… to the extent we are not aligned, it is in that exact same degree that we have negative intent.  Examples of misalignment are doing sloppy work, procrastination, arguing, etc.

In the moments where we are truly unified beings, we are merged in and synchronized with universal purpose.  To some this may appear as passivity because of the lack of adversity, however, it is not.  It is the emergence of both active positive intention aligned with passive universal purpose which manifests in a complete sense of free flowing energy felt within the physical being as PUL and that of having a great sense on oneness with all that is. 

Love, Kathy

Hello Justin,

Apparently you feel as though my post was directed toward you.  I assure you, it was not. 

I believe you are misunderstanding the essence of it and would like to encourage you to go back and read it again keeping in mind that it does indeed agree with your discription of male/female energy.  My point is that sometimes when these things are explained they sound esoteric when in actuality they are not.  I can also go into greater detail regarding this deeper dimension of our being.

Everyone is always connected with essence (the godhead, higher self, etc.) at this deeper dimension.  Btw this is a dimension at a deeper level than our auric field.  This dimension of our being is the one note or sound that holds our body in physical manifestation and is the foundation upon which our auric field is formed.  This is the deeper dimension of our intention or the “active” and through it we are in direct connection to the godhead. 

In my view it is a golden white line sometimes called the hara line as it runs through the hara, however, it also runs through what is called the “high heart” or “soul seat” which is sometimes misunderstood or confused with the heart chakra.  This line originates from above the head and runs down the center or central channel of our bodies deep into the earth.  This is the same channel through which vital life energy / kundalini runs in everyone.  It is what holds our gelatinous bodies in physical form and contains both our personal and also universal purpose and intention. 

Love, Kathy

Ok, Justin,

I am deleting all my posts regarding this matter.
I have no interest in having this kind of conversation with you. I'm done.

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hey everyone,

Just wanted to share a few of my experiences and I think i have been in this space of nothingness as well...

I really need to improve, actually and get better at meditation. I don't seem to be able to easily anymore if at all...so I am enjoying this topic but haven't read through all yet, but am going to give it a real big going over lol.

Well my experiences are when I first tried to OBE i got in a meditative state and i ended up floating, (I can't figure whether I actually got OBE or not and din't relise) but it felt like i didn't, i couldn't feel my body and what I could feel is just my astral body floating over my physical, I layed there for ages enjoying it and didn't get bored, I can't explain it, like a state of well being and energy and pure awareness also, by floating I could really be with this. I have never been able to do this again...

Another time I layed down and relaxed and felt I had silenced my mind enough to relax but nothing happened and i woke up, look at my clock and an hour had past! felt like I had been there for 5 minutes, plus i know i didn't fall asleep, maybe i was thinking of nothing? Kind of like a hyperspace if you like.

Normally when i meditate I lay there and go into an awareness still with conscious feeling of my physical body even if this is not whats taking up my focus. Its here I see images, very clear and vivid and they pop up with the blackness behind and around them. I do not relise I have seen them most of the time untill they go, why is this? Its here as well I can go into phasing or OBE.

I noticed with some OBE projections I have relaxed and gone in a state of nothing and then caught myself when i start to float, or the vibrations comes. Like i really do shut off my mind, and maybe i lay there for a while building up energy like this i dont know but all i know is suddenly I'm in a position to OBE just like that fromt he relaxing.

Ryan