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Why Dead Loved Ones Don't Contact Us (Read 86048 times)
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Re: Why Dead Loved Ones Don't Contact Us
Reply #75 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 11:40am
 
Don said:

'If channeling is like a telephone hook-up to other worlds, then why wouldn't the dead ROUTINELY contact us convincingly in other ways (e. g. waking visions, audible voices)?'.

How would we be able to function in our physical world if the deceased routinely contacted us ? Can you imagine the cacophony of relative's voices impinging on our ability to make everyday decisions ? If, as I believe, our physical earth time is important I thinks its important that we are able to give it our fullest attention without worrying what Grandma feels about our choice of curtain colour !

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Reply #76 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 1:54pm
 
True, but ADC contact could in principle be made easily and routinely during the threshold moments when we go to bed or are in the process of awakening.  So why doesn'this happen more often and more spectacularly?  That is the intended question behind my speculation in this thread.

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Reply #77 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 2:06pm
 
h 69-

In light of the problems you mention, we'd have to wonder why Bruce is spending so much time and energy developing his afterlife communication device (ADC).

Remember, Bruce describes this device as a telephone system to the afterlife.  And he has a team of folks, both living and deceased, working with him on the project.

Per Bruce, the device will allow any of us to dial-up a deceased friend or loved one just as easily as we now call a neighbor across the street.

If the problems are as great as you describe, wouldn't you think that those folks in the afterlife would be well aware of them and would advise Bruce not to continue with his efforts?

Ed Carter, a deceased engineer friend of Bruce's, is one of the key developers of this device.  I doubt Ed would be doing this unless he were convinced it would be of benefit.

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Reply #78 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 3:25pm
 
Good points. I am writing from my perspective so others such as Bruce may be able to handle and may have intent for said contact. Also I imagine it would make a big differemce if this contact could be turned on/off at will like Bruce's proposed device to prevent overload problems.

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Reply #79 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 3:36pm
 
h 69-

Speaking of overload, can you imagine the millions of "calls" folks like Abraham Lincoln or Bill Shakespeare would receive?

(of course, if reincarnation is real, they probably wouldn't be around to answer the phone anyway.....)   Smiley

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Reply #80 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 4:16pm
 
.... lets hope they're good at multi-tasking !

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Reply #81 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 4:45pm
 
Either that or let's hope that there's a call forwarding device that finds them in their new bodies.

But then, if we really are multi-dimensional spirits, the device would have to be able to call not only Abraham Lincoln but all of his other identities as well.

(I think it's time for a drink).

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Reply #82 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 4:50pm
 
Don.what about going back in time.One night before going to sleep,I asked if I could go back to when I was a kid.It did not happen that night.But 2 or 3 months later while sleeping,I heard a voice say,George,come with me.I said where are we going.The voice said you wanted to go back to when you were a kid.I said yes I did.Then the next thing I knew,I was laying on a bank looking down at the miners waiting for the tram cars to take themdown into the mine.I did know a lot of them.I saw my father who at the time was very young.we had an iron ore mine.in my town that closed in 1965.There was another kid there with me who I knew.I was about 8 or 9 years old at the time.This was very vivit.George
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Reply #83 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 4:51pm
 
I think they do contact us. Mostly at our request. Not like they are giving us a phone call or something like that mind you. Communication from those "over there" is mostly NVC, which for some can be difficult to understand or interpret. Rarely are you going to end up in a conversation like" hey, hows your day going?" or can " tell me what its like to be dead", sort of a thing. But communication we still do engage in. You might see them in a hospital setting soon after the die. I have seen this in two instances. No, I wasn't dreaming. I was in a meditative state mind you. I would think that communication instantly after you die is also rarely going to happen unless your pretty well together. First, most likly its going to be a bit of a shock realising that you didn't die after-all. Your going to possibly understand more of the reasoning behind your life. You will want to communicate with those you love and who are still here engaged in the phyical. Some wont be able to communicate with those left behind. Their beliefs wont allow for it. They might think that when your dead ,your dead. So it wont happen or will be difficult or delayed. But communication with some who have died happens all the time. Remember what communication is. I see it as "the movement or exchange of information or ideas, between two or more objects, over a distance." Understanding it not a part of the equation or nessassary for communication to take place. Nor are words.
(If you believe that there is no communication when you pass on, then you would have to presume that getting messages from Jesus would not be possible. He did die.)    
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Reply #84 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 5:29pm
 
My brother John died a year ago and I have had alot of contact with him...auditory,touch and one e-mail. The e-mail was interesting. A little help started with me but he finished it. He died Feb. 2009, his e-mail was shut down in March 2009. I was playing around with his ITOUCH(April 2009) and sent from his ITOUCH an email to my email(just for fun) to see if his email was really shut down. I sent "Hi Anna I love you don't worry I will contact you again"...I quickly went home to check my  computer for like a week and of course nothing. I continued to check throughout the weeks and nothing.
On May 30th,2009, our family went out on a boat to spread his ashes in front of where he lived. He loved the sea. The next morning in bold on the first line and bigger than any other e-mail was the e-mail ""Anna I love you don't worry I will contact you again"  The odd thing about that is that for two days I did not get one more e-mail...that particular e-mail is a set up entertainment account where I get 50 e-mails a day...not one e-mail came in for two days, which has never happened.My medium friend told me that this is happening more in the afterlife...electronic communication...e-mails and that kind of thing so Bruces idea is going to be a hit.
Just thought I would pass that along
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Reply #85 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 5:31pm
 
Oh and one other thing no time was sent on the e-mail but the date of the previous date when I sent it in March was there but no time.....there is always a time with an email
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Reply #86 - Mar 18th, 2010 at 5:32pm
 
I meant to say when I sent it in April....I hope I havent confused everyone Embarrassed
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Reply #87 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 2:34am
 
george stone wrote on Mar 18th, 2010 at 4:50pm:
Don.what about going back in time.One night before going to sleep,I asked if I could go back to when I was a kid.It did not happen that night.But 2 or 3 months later while sleeping,I heard a voice say,George,come with me.I said where are we going.The voice said you wanted to go back to when you were a kid.I said yes I did.Then the next thing I knew,I was laying on a bank looking down at the miners waiting for the tram cars to take themdown into the mine.I did know a lot of them.I saw my father who at the time was very young.we had an iron ore mine.in my town that closed in 1965.There was another kid there with me who I knew.I was about 8 or 9 years old at the time.This was very vivit.George


Hi dear George

What an amazing experience to swim against the flow of the arrow of time and revise your youth again  Smiley

People should take you more seriously because you are so open to the spiritual side of life

Blessings and Light

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Reply #88 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 1:18am
 
Much of the speculation on this thread assumes contact limitations for either the living or the deceased.  If life on Earth progresses through evolution directed at some level by God through random selection, why not assume that evolution also occurs in the spiritual realm?  Limitations we perceive in ADC potential might point to the direction of postmortem evolution.  Indeed, part of the answer to the question, "Why did God create our universe?" might be this: God is love; love is by nature relational, and, as such, God creates to relate to the "loving Other."  But true love requires freely expressed potential.  So God may eternally create universes to explore infinite varieties of freely offered love by every imaginable form of life with intelligence comparable to or superior to our own.  Perhaps, part of the definition of "God" should include 'loving evolutionary process."

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Reply #89 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 1:35am
 
Don, you are sounding a lot like a Tom Campbell follower.
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