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woaimimi
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Help with communication
Nov 14th, 2005 at 11:36pm
 
Hello everyone. I hope that I am not bothering anyone. I am here because my father passed away just two days ago. I do believe very much that in reality there is no such thing as death. However, do to the fact that I am human, I am grieving very much so. I would like to ask all of you to help me. I want to know how to contact him. I am trying to experiment with EVP & by taking photos and such. However, I am problably doing it wrong. Also, I have been thinking about finding a medium, but to be honest, money is very tight now. Because of this, I know I can not afford one. I really want to open myself to the other side. Maybe I sound silly by this need, but it is what makes me feel stronger. Can any of you help me with this matter? I talk to dad all of the time. I just want to have a little bit more of a deeper connection. I need that. Also I am still feeling grief for the loss of my grandmother nearly 5 years ago. I want to find a way to contact her as well. Thank you all very much. Please take care~  Dan H.
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Re: Help with communication
Reply #1 - Nov 15th, 2005 at 12:18pm
 
Wiomimi:

There are so many factors that go into determining how things work out in the spirit World. It is hard to determine what all of those factors are while here in the physical.

If you want to make contact with your deceased grandparents, then before you go to sleep ask your higher self/guides if you can meet with them in a dream. But be surrendered about the results. Sometimes when it comes to the overall life plans of everyone involved, things can't always be worked out in the way that we imagine to be preferrable.

The is because God's imagination is much grandeur than our own. Therefore, except whatever result you obtain.

It is best to not grieve for too long, because you'll effect the energy of the person you're grieving for. Instead send them some love, and trust that things will work out for the best. God has a wonderful imagination. Also don't forget that the love you're looking for is always inside.
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Reply #2 - Nov 15th, 2005 at 2:56pm
 
I have limited experience but I agree with recoverer and have also found that deep depression from grieving seems to thwart the efforts of the deceased to move along and your efforts to contact.  This seems to be a fine balance.  I don't have any experience with purposeful communications, only accidental ones, but the common thread for them was that I was in a relaxed, nearly hypnotic state and centered my thoughts and sometimes verbal communication around how much I loved them, rather than my own needs for comfort.  then it just seemed to happen.  Once I received some positive feedback and resolution, I didn't continue to pursue more and more, though I wanted it badly.  I felt this would have distracted both of us from our paths, one being in this world, the other being somewhere else afterlife. Like recoverer said, "....except whatever result you obtain"  I think this is very important for the balance of our existence here and knowledge of there.

So anyway, I guess the summary of this is to be open mentally, try not to get so deeply depressed that you shut down, and look for synchronicities (noteworthy coincidences) that may give you clues as to when and where to communicate.  I believe in strong geographic attachments for the departed, so being where we spent a lot of time together has helped me.  Oh, here's a good one, pay attention to little kids (~3 yo) too, they sense things sometimes that are very interesting, and you might find out if any departed person you know is still hanging around.  I don't mean asking them anything direct or planting notions about ghosts in their heads, just listen to what they say about stuff.  Like if you say "hey, who moved this pillow over here?" you might get an unusual response.

Lastly, imho I think part of grieving is not curable by any communications.  The ache of missing their personality is very real because you shared this world with them as a physical being, which they are no longer.  Even though their spirit is off on another adventure somewhere, there is still you here in this world without them, and for myself, that doesn't go away.  It just diminishes down to a steady ache that is part of the burden of this world - of being human.  I've gotten tremendous life-changing reassurance and comfort from communicating and signs, and I value it immensely, but there is no amount that will make that last little bit of ache go away.  This goes back to balance I guess.  Again, just my opinion.  good luck to you, and I'm sorry for your loss.
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Reply #3 - Nov 15th, 2005 at 4:16pm
 
Hi Dan, I'm sorry to hear of your loss,

Don't be afraid to grieve....your soul is important too, we have to, but my advice would be try and remember all them good times you had, all the fun and laughter, cry tears of hapiness and be happy in the fact hes still around just looking after you in a different way now Smiley

I agree with what has been said here but also must add your Dad may not come to you straight away, he has also things to do as a new spirit into the otherside, e.g. look at his life, I'm sure you are aware, be paitient. The easiest way is through your dreams...place your intent with emotion to meet, you want to see him again, know hes ok. You will know when you made contact, your dream will see very real and vivid compared to a normal dream, there will just be that thing about it, a feeling that you know it was real. Also be paitient, he may have come to you but you may not be able to remember, we do not remember our dreams every night...

I met my grandad like this once, i really wanted to meet with him again, he came in a dream, i didn't relise, i was also out of body but didn't relise, he played in with my dream and all though i didn't speak to him like he had past I woke up very very happy, i knew it was him and knew he was there.

Another method from Bruce Moen himself is the imagination method. When you go to sleep or during the day, lay down, relax, feel relaxed, clear your mind, kind of drift off but stay awake and imagine, imagine you are outside on your patio? or something similar, sit down, ask him to come, see him walking and sitting next to you, start a conversation (dont worry if you can't actually see), have a conversation, tell him you miss him or whatever you want too, hear his replies, you may feel you are making this up but dont worry, keep playing, get emerged in the scene, let it take over. Sometimes something will happen you didn't even plan! He might say something unexpected and you are shocked because you didnt think about him saying this beforehand! Dont aim for this just get in the scene, sometimes this wont happen but when you stop and sit up you will remember little things which will make you aware he has been to see you.

All this is hard to believe at first which it shouldn't but is, keep trying and something will happen, it takes time but know you are in good hands here and there...

All the best,

Ryan
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Reply #4 - Nov 15th, 2005 at 10:44pm
 
I want to thank all of you for your replies. I appreciate them all very much. I have to say that I understand and agree. It just makes sense. Anyway, I never used to really believe in a lot of the spiritualistic ways, but now I do very much. Ever since my grandmother passed away nearly five years ago, I have grown to realize that it is very real. I just want to become more intune with it. I would like to learn about OBEs and such. Also, I know that most people go through what I am now experiencing. I know that I really need to give my father time to find his path on the other side. I talk to him all of the time now. I really feel that our relationship is even better. Maybe it sounds silly, but I think to all of you, it problably makes sense. Thanks for your help. I am sure I will be writing more here as well as come here to read what everyone is doing. Bye~
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