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mystic_dreamer
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Spirit communication with a child
Nov 8th, 2005 at 1:50am
 
Hey...........I am really curious about this.....just wondering: if a spirit was going to try to communicate with a child, how a spirit would do that.
Yesterday was my granddaughter's 5th birthday......while she was playing in her bedroom with the other kids that were there, I wandered down the hallway and for whatever reason, I stopped for a moment to look in at the toy room. The kids hadn't been in there playing. I was just standing in the doorway.....looking around and giggling over all the toys that were in there. After standing there for several minutes, looking, daydreaming......a toy cash register on the far side of the room suddenly came to life. There were lights flashing on it and all kinds of musical sounds. I was stunned to say the least.....I called for my daughter to come and see this.....when she got there, the scene had stopped. I told her what happened....she just laughed at me and said that this toy did not play sounds....and furthermore, had no batteries in it to even set the lights off in motion. She argued with me....I told her what I saw....she just laughed. She was in the middle of saying the part about it having no batteries in it when it suddenly sprung to life again. Lights flashing, musical sounds coming out. I was waiting for it to start bouncing off the shelf!!
My other daughter came running to see what was happening. This toy carried on for at least 3 minutes before it stopped.
My daughter walked over to it then and picked it up. She noticed (and showed the rest of us) that the on/off switch was in the 'off' position........and then she opened it up to prove that there were no batteries in it.
OK..........weird.
A few minutes later, my daughter brought up a story that I had long since forgotten about. It happened on one of MiKayla's first few birthdays....I think it was her 2nd birthday. She had a toy phone.........and again, there were no batteries in it. During her birthday party, the phone started ringing and wouldn't stop. My daughter and MiKayla's dad both tried to get the phone to stop ringing.....nothing would work. It just kept ringing. They were so freaked out by this that they put the phone into a plastic bag and with it, they drove clear across town and threw it into a dumpster.
So last night after her party....one of her little friends spent the night at her house. Both the little girls were going to sleep in a play tent. They couldn't get to sleep because they both kept hearing a man's voice softly whispering to them. My daughter took them from the tent and they all slept in my daughter's bedroom for the night.
Since I saw this toy come to life.....I am really interested in what might be going on here. I am wondering if this might be some kind of attempt to communicate with my granddaughter. She has frequently talked about someone that she refers to as 'gramma' that she says she talks too.....and for awhile she used to talk about a man who was in her closet.....back then, she was terrified to go to sleep in her room.
And if this is an attempt to communicate, why thru a toy?
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Reply #1 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 11:25am
 
Hey mystic_dreamer,

The spirit may have very well tried to communicate with your child. But that's kind of a slope, since she wasn't even present. It might have reacted strangely since it was almost out of batteries, or maybe the spirit was trying to speak to you.
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Reply #2 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 2:03pm
 
Interesting Mystic Dreamer. It sounds to me like spirit is trying to communicate this way, or else your's and your daughter's energies cause this. Kind of like poltergeist activity.

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Reply #3 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 2:21pm
 
Hi Bethany....thanks for your reply. I just wanted to correct you on something......the toy had no batteries in it at all. So it isn't like the last dying breath of a battery!!! The battery compartment was empty..........this is what is so strange about this.
And Marilyn........you talk about this maybe being some kind of energy that both myself and my granddaughter might be giving off......would you say it might be similar to the same phenomenon of the street lights going off when you approach them? Because that happens so much with not just myself, but my granddaughter and her mom too (my oldest daughter).
It does have a bit of a poltergeist type of feel to it though...........like, you see this kind of stuff in haunting shows. It kind of freaks me out because of that........like, the toys are coming to life!!!
I don't understand why the toys tho.....maybe  it is just easy for a spirit to try to make contact with a child thru a toy........but then as Bethany said, it happened to me, not my granddaughter as I stood in the doorway looking around the room. It should be easy enough for spirit to communicate with me....especially in my sleeping state.....but then I have been known to pick up on spirit in my wakeful state too. So I don't understand why it would try this method, other than it's intention is to scare the beedazzles out of me.....and everyone else.
The toy phone incident acouple years ago, had no batteries in its compartment either.......but I wasn't there to see this incident either, so I would think that it is not me that it is trying to communicate with.
I wonder, maybe it is a relative that has passed over and this is just a friendly way of saying Happy Birthday to MiKayla on her birthday. It's just being funny...amuzing............maybe this spirit didn't want to activate the toy cash register in front of the other kids that were there because it would have scared them.........so maybe it was done in my presence so that I knew it had been there and to maybe pass this on to MiKayla and my daughter.....
I know that MiKayla is somewhat in tune with spirit...she talks about them frequently....she has conversations with one that she says is her gramma.
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Reply #4 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 2:39pm
 
I'm not really knowledgeable about this so I'm just guessing, but yes, I'd say it was akin to the street lights going out. Wink

Perhaps time will tell if it is a spirit trying to communicate or just what it is.

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Reply #5 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 2:46pm
 
If spirit beings can send energy into us, then they probably have the ability to send energy into electrical items too.
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Reply #6 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 7:46pm
 
No, street lights fail for a more prosaic reason. They have daylight sensors mounted on top to turn them on/off at sunset/sunrise. When the sensor begins to fail, car headlights, the flash on a camera, or lightning can trip them off. It is spooky since it is obvious that it is reacting to us.

The toy is a different kettle of fish. But if you don't have a video tape of it actually making sounds and flashing, how do you know your brain wasn't being directly stimulated by the other side? Cf: Moen and the skunk smell.
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Reply #7 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 8:14pm
 
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Cf: Moen and the skunk smell.


I don't know what CF means. However, the rest of the statement stinks. No pun intended. What a LOVING thing to say on Bruce's forum/website.  Embarrassed Cry
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Reply #8 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 8:39pm
 
No Marilyn I think he means a story Bruce told about a skunk smell.


(It's been a "good" day for this sort of misunderstanding and I'm feeling overly sensitive to misinterpretation)
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Reply #9 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 8:52pm
 
OMG, I see what you mean. (Hanging my head in shame)

I'm sorry Richard, I took it the wrong way and of course jumped to Bruce's defense. I have egg on my face.  Shocked Shocked Shocked

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Reply #10 - Nov 8th, 2005 at 10:06pm
 

Hi Richard....I don't understand what you mean when you said: brain being stimulated from the other side?
About the streetlights tho...I can appreciate what you are saying about how things can trigger them....however, how would you explain that when approaching a streetlight while walking and they shut off? No flash. headlights or camera....just by approaching on foot? Sometimes I can go down a street and several will shut off as I approach.
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Reply #11 - Nov 9th, 2005 at 8:14pm
 
When Bruce was with his friend and her relative came calling from the other side, they perceived the smell of a skunk. This was how the spirit made herself known to his friend. When Bruce, being unable to accept the skunk smell, declared it impossible, he was cut off from it and could no longer perceive it.

The spirit did not create the complex chemical and fill the air in the house with it. She directly stimulated the brains of the sensitives present with the "concept" of skunk smell. Just as they create complex visual messages in the dream state or sounds in the waking state. This is bound to be much easier than actually creating the physical manifestations associated with each. This is why one person can sense them while another can not.

Very powerful spirits can apparently create physical events which will be seen by many people but the above accounts for why ghost hunters rarely turn much up on their physical cameras and instruments.

So, it is entirely possible that the toy was making no physical sound and there were no physical lights but you all perceived them because that was what you were intended to perceive.

The easiest way to reach a child is to use the association of a toy. The child is open to external influences because it has not yet learned how to concentrate; to block out external stimuli.

The child expects to be talking to another person while using the phone. That the toy is not hooked to a phone line and is just plastic means nothing to the child. A toy phone and a real one are identical from its point of view. This is exactly the technique taught by Moen for establishing and strengthening a connection to the otherside.

As far as the street lights going out as you approach, I would have to guess that it is due to your naturally sunny personality.  Wink

For Marilyn Maitreya: No apology required. I saw something silly you wrote  as a comment in another thread and thought to question it but thought better and left it alone. You could not possibly have meant it the way it sounded. Rereading it I see you recognize that your view point of the time was wrong. Each experience changes our understanding of what we experienced in the past.
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Reply #12 - Nov 9th, 2005 at 10:42pm
 
Hi mystic

    My take on this is that an advanced loving soul has the power and know-how to get a message to you in a number of ways.  As you know, they can use dreams and other very clear symbolic actions.  And if they are very good they can get their message to you in a beautiful and moving way.  Without any fear.  So when you experience something like you described.  Something not clear, can't make any symbolic connection, generates a level of fear.  You can go ahead and assume that it is from a soul on the other side if you like, but react to it the same way you would if that person was still on this side.  What I'm trying to say is... This soul sounds like an idiot.  You can't understand him or her, no clear message, and is scarring people.  Just like an idiot on this side, I wouldn't waste a minute thinking about their foolishness.   Smiley
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Reply #13 - Nov 9th, 2005 at 11:29pm
 
Hi mystic:
The fact that it was on her birthday suggests the presence of a
spirit that would know when her birthday was, and has a personal
interest in the child, like a family member. This fits in with her
talking to her grandmother.

The cash register that ran without a battery is like several cases
I have read of where the TV was showing a picture when it was not
plugged into the wall. As an engineer I can tell you that is not
possible by anything normal. A TV set uses about 1/5 horsepower,
which is a lot for a spirit to produce. Of course, since we have no
idea how this is done, conventional ideas of power consumption
would not apply.

What fascinates me about this is, some experimenters have worked
for years to invent devices that would pick up from spirits, and
here we have a spirit so powerful that it does not need a sensitive
device and can commandeer what is available and make that into a
signalling device.

It would have been great to have a record of this, a movie showing
the flashing lights with the battery compartment open. The phone
that would not stop ringing, and had no battery, would have been a
fantastic paranormal artifact. Too bad you threw it away. It too
should have had a record made of it, at least a photo.

This is fascinating in terms of theories of how the universe works.
It shows a spirit in a higher dimension able to impose a will onto
physical matter without any visible connection to it. I had a
related case where my light came on by itself and the force seemed
to have been applied internally into the switch, not against the
push button. In other words the force can be applied without the
usual means. There is a suggestion here that physical matter does
not operate the way an engineer thinks that it does.

What is further interesting is that if spirits can act directly on
devices, could they also act directly on the human body for
healing? The idea would be to refine the force so that it could
target something specific in the body. I need a spirit that could
start my ears regrowing, or could remove the block in Bruce's
stroke.

Thanks for reporting this. Now that you have reported it, you are
someone I know on line who has experienced personally things I have
only read about, and that makes it more real.

If you can dim street lights, that makes you a very unique
individual. The device that operates the street lights is called a
photoresistor. It is a device with two electrodes like forks facing
each other so that the teeth intermesh but do not touch. in between
the teeth is a sensitive area with a great range of difference in
electrical conductivity according to how much light falls on it, and
it is very sensitive.  I assume that it can also be energized by
fields put out by certain humans. What I should do is send you one
of these set up with an indicator to show how the conductivity is
changing. It is just great to know someone who can do this, so I
can check my instruments. You can email me if you want to try this.

Meanhile if those effects continue, you might want to try to
communicate with the spirit, devise a messaging sytem. Spirits
sometimes leave things like pennies or dmes as messages, but this spirit
uses toys. Phone calls are also fairly common. The phone rings,
a whispery voice is heard that fades away. Or it may be quite clear.
In one case the caller ID showed an old number no longer in use.
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Reply #14 - Nov 10th, 2005 at 5:52am
 
Wanna know what I'd have done, if I had been
there during those weird events you mentioned?
I'd have ANSWERED that ringing, un-batteried toy
phone. I'd have said "hello", and listened...
If I heard a voice, I'd tell it: "THANK YOU!" and hang up.
Why?
Because OTHER people had heard it ring.
And I would finally have proof that I wasn't insane,
for being interested in this "metaphysical" stuff...

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Reply #15 - Nov 10th, 2005 at 5:02pm
 
Before my father died in 2000, he said to mum that if there was an afterlife he would try and contact mum through the home theatre system-mum hated it as she hates technology and she certainly wasn't too impressed with dad when he bought it (he was dying of cancer and I thought why not enjoy what time he had left)  Not long after dad died the fan next to home theatre turned on by itself and it wasn't plugged in an there was no breeze inside the house-mum freaked out and hid the fan in one of the spare rooms. She's also had vivid dreams where he has contacted, which has also freaked her out, saying you're dead Ted with him replying No I'm not-where she's awoken as she's freaked herself out.
When I was a kid I used to have a digital watch (1982)and it decided to go haywire and say all these weird words (I cant remember the words but they were in English) when it wasn't designed for words as it was in the time area and it had permanent days of the week with an underline for the day. I showed my friend and she freaked out.
My son used to have this toy that used to operate in the off position for no reason at all-first time it did it that scared me as it was a 2am toilet call and it was on the floor when it decided to flash it's lights and go nuts-i picked it up as I didn't want it to wake my son and it was definitely in the off position-it did this quite often after this and always at night, I ended up throwing it out as it scared me once too often.
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Reply #16 - Nov 10th, 2005 at 8:31pm
 
Richard Quote:
For Marilyn Maitreya: No apology required. I saw something silly you wrote  as a comment in another thread and thought to question it but thought better and left it alone. You could not possibly have meant it the way it sounded. Rereading it I see you recognize that your view point of the time was wrong. Each experience changes our understanding of what we experienced in the past.


Thank you. And I do remember the skunk story now. LOL  And yes, each experience does change our understanding of what we experienced in the past. That is so very true.

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Reply #17 - Nov 11th, 2005 at 12:32am
 
Hey Boris.....of course...I would be interested in heloing you test out whatever that thing is that you have.......oh, and we did take pictures of that cash register 'doing it's thing'....no video clips..just pics....we thought we might catch an orb or something around it that would explain 'at least something'.....but no orbs were seen...but there were some strange lights or reflections of something...can't really tell what it is...the light was not on in that room and it was daylight.
It was my daughter who threw the phone away...she was too freaked out by what was happening...they drove it to the other side of town just to get rid of it. I don't know who would be trying to contact my granddaughter tho....she is only 5 years old (just had her 5th b-day) and there has been no one in her life that has known her and has died in her 5 years.......the gramma that she has referred to, who she says comes and talks to her sometimes, is a baffling thing to me....since I am her gramma....not a ghost! My own mother passed away in 1969...and my grandma, 1967........I have thought that maybe the gramma she is talking about is one of these two, maybe. However, someone here mentioned once that it could be a gramma from a previous life that my granddaughter had........ ???
By the way Chumley..........I think I would have been toooooo scared to answer the phone......I think I have seen too many scarey movies in my day!!!! I have started to sleep with the light on at night..........again!!!! (my god, I need a doctor!)
I just don't know who would be trying to contact her on her b-day.....or to acknowledge her special day....I really don't know. However.....one thing that is rather odd, that I just thought of now, is that this was a toy cash register that came to life.....and that is what I do every day at work: I'm a cashier in a busy grocery store.....coincidence maybe?
And hey....I just thought of something else...I had completely forgotten about this until now...this happened 5 years ago. I was involved in getting my university degree and this one night, I was burning the midnight oil putting a report together. T
I was sitting up. alone, kids long since in bed and the place was quiet...no tv...no music, nothing. I was at the kitchen table, writing away, when suddenly the radio (which was sitting on top of the fridge) turned on and there was music playing. The sound was quiet (low volume)....I looked up, startled by this. What the heck? I got up and started to walk towards it...was going to turn it off...the closer that I got to it, the louder the volume started to go. By the time I was right there, it was blasting loud.....and I was literally shaking and scared to death. I had never experienced anything like this before and I was scared s^$#$^&**(((^%$less......
I reached up to turn it off and it was then that I noticed that the radio wasn't even plugged into the wall socket. Holy....now I remember this all too well...I had forgotten all about this. There were no batteries in it either...I remember that, I was too poor at that time for batteries for anything. But I had this radio on the fridge and I would plug it into the socket on the stove....normally I kept it unplugged when I wasn't using it because I was always worried that one of the kids would turn a burner on and not look to see it the cord was plugged in.
My hands were shaking like crazy as I reached up to the on/off knob...I thought something was suddenly haunting my radio! That there was a ghost right there! I had goose bumples!
My fingers didn't even touch the knob when it shut off on its' own.  I went and sat back down...watching behind me as I walked....thinking that there was something behind me.....lol
I had noticed the time on the wall clock at that point and it was 12:40am....
I finished what I was working on and went to bed....with all the lights on in the place! Nothing else weird happened that night.
It wasn't until the next morning when I realized the significance of what happened that night before....this radio thing happened on September 24th, 1999....at 12:40am........my mom had passed away on September 24th, 1969 at 12:40am......now is that a strange coincidence or what?
What had scared me sooooo much about that incident was that the closer I got to the radio, the louder it got.
So now maybe, just maybe this is my mom who is trying to communicate with me.....and she is the gramma (although it would be great gramma to my granddaughter) who has been using the toys on the birthdays......and the cash register toy....well, like I said, that is my job to run at work. 
Isn't there supposed to be something about how physic abilities tend to jump a generation in families? I have been told that my grampa (my mom's dad had physic (I know I am spelling that wrong  Tongue) abilities.........I know that I have them.....and now my granddaughter seems to have them.
There is a 30 year time frame from my mom's passing to the radio thing.....
I also had a visit from my mom in a dream when I was 19 or 20......she came to me (first time since she had passed away) and we had an awesome visit....we talked and she commented on all the changes in the old family home ....she told me that she missed me, loved me...and she said that she didn't die and leave this earth because she didn't love me...just because she was so sick.....at the end  of the visit, she gave me a hug and said that she enjoyed our visit and promised that she would come again.
I think I need to look at these recent incidents with my granddaughter a little more closely. I think that it just might be my mom. Maybe she is just trying to let us know that she is here with us celebrating with us on these special days...
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Reply #18 - Nov 11th, 2005 at 12:54am
 
Hey Mystic,

Had you been reading anything having to do with this sort of subject that you can remember?  Had anyone asked you specifically about this sort of thing, or had you been thinking about it?  I am just curious because usually what happens is, when we are studying, reading, or wondering about a specific paranormal activity, that activity will directly manifest itself in your life.  I don't have the answers as to why or how this happens, or if there is a spirit involved making it happen, but I have not only read about it from other paranormal investigators, I have also experienced the phenomenon myself on several occasions. 

Also, I believe you that your granddaughter is gifted, but this particular experience sounds like it was meant for you, not for her since it happened to you.  You were meant to experience this for some reason.  That is what you need to figure out.  I'm not saying that the little girl doesn't have spirits trying to contact her, I'm just saying in this case I believe it was meant for you. 

Mairlyn, that was so funny, I'm glad you finally did remember the skunk story.  That is my most favorite story of Bruce's--just the way he tells it in the book had me cracking up over it. 

ps--that creepy ringing toy telephone...anybody remember the Twilight Zone episode where the little boy gets a toy telephone from his grandma and she calls him on it after she dies?   

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Reply #19 - Nov 11th, 2005 at 12:55pm
 
Hi Vicky.....I'm not sure which incident you are referring to when you asked if I had been reading, etc, about paranormal things.in either case, however, no.....I hadn't been 'at that moment' anyway.
When the radio thing happened, I can place that back to my last semester and in that month, I was working on a 'large motor skill' program for kids (my report)...........and then at the birthday party...well, lately I have been watching alot of tv programming in the evening ...'Dead Tennants'...Physic Witness"....'Haunted House'.....no wonder I can't sleep in the dark again!!
I think there was another movie that included a ringing toy phone toy too.....Poltergeiist.
It is creepy no matter what.......and the toy cashier really got to me because I was just standing there looking into the room and it suddenly became active. And then it stopped after a few minutes and then when my daughters both came to see why I called them...I was arguing with one of them over it....she said that I was nuts..had no batteries in it, etc...then it started up again at that moment.
I am starting to think it was meant for me...and yes, I will have to figure it out.
I am going thru a rough time right now...maybe it is just a show of 'emotional support'...??
I wouldn't want to think it as a calling card...that my days are short....and that this is just a reminder that I will not leave this place 'alone'.....morbid sounding I guess....but I had a dream a few years ago and it has yet to transpire. It involved my old Nova and I died...I rose above the power lines and looked down on what had happened below. It all sounds weird, I know. But I have been having a few close calls in that car lately while driving at night (and that is what this dream dramatized)...
This seems to be getting off topic now...and I think I am just guessing and surmizing too much.
Time will tell just who is trying to contact who. Smiley













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Reply #20 - Nov 11th, 2005 at 1:19pm
 
Sometimes getting off topic is a good thing.  As long as it is good conversation and we are learning and stimulating each other.   Smiley

Perhaps your car experience does not need to be translated literally.  Do you think it can be interpreted a different way?

My question to you was specifically about when the toy cash register went crazy.  Sorry that I wasn't more specific.  Anyway, just from knowing you from this board it seems that you are open to receiving "weird" stuff just like I am. 

One example is when I was reading a book about de-materialization of objects one Saturday.  I became curious as to how this phenomenon manifests itself, because there are different theories out there as to how and why it happens. 

Anyway, that evening I went to a friend's house to do scrapbooking.  I didn't know any of the other women there.  A few hours later as one woman was about to get ready to leave, she couldn't find her car keys.  They weren't where she knew she had put them, and they weren't anywhere!  We watched her check her purse and bags several times.  Finally she had to get a ride home from someone.  A couple weeks later I went to a scrapbooking weekend retreat and that same woman was there.  I asked her whatever had become of the car keys.  She said when she got home her keys were right there in the middle of one of her carrying cases.  (The type you open like a folder, and can be zipped closed).  It was right there in plain sight, and could not have been missed earlier since she has like a million keys on it and large jingly key chains too.  She was bewildered about it, as were the rest of us who witnessed her search for the keys. 

I have to believe that if I had not been wondering so curiously about de-materialization that day, that she would not have lost her keys!  I think it happened because of my presence...it was a chance for me to witness this phenomenon first hand.  If I had not gone that night, this would not have happened to her. 

I think we all directly affect each other in these strange ways. 

I used to think that you had to be in the right place at the right time in order for paranormal phenomena to occur.  But now I realize that is not so.  I think paranormal phenomena pops up any opportunity it can get. 

Now my curiousity is about "what" is controlling or setting up these occurrences.  Is it our energy, like a poltergeist sort of thing?  Is it a spirit or ghost trying to get our attention?  Is it something that we set up for ourselves prior to this incarnation?  And that is what you started this thread about.  You wanted to know if a spirit was trying to contact your granddaughter through the toy.  It made me think about 2 things...one is that, are these things always attributed to a spirit?  Or can these things occur at the subatomic level...whereby our curiousity ignites the required energy and molecular interactions to produce such an event.  (Someone else on this thread said that the phenomenon experienced could be in your brain, and not actually be the toy itself having action?  This is an interesting concept). And the other thing is, you instantly believed the moving toy had to be about your granddaughter rather than having to do with you.  My first reaction was that it was about you, not her, in this case. 
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