by the exercise of will a man can retain his objective consciousness after death
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something to ponder on...

I believe this concept of objective versus subjective consciousness is found on this websitehttp://www.skyhero.com

author Cozzolino in his book "The Path" has a chapter on some afterlife areas of consciouness. most interesting descriptions.

you said: Does this quote mean the weak-willed of us out there lose our consciousness after death like one of B-man's horror story scenarios?  I don't think so myself.
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I don't see humanity in the way that judgments imply some are weak, some are strong. I just see people immersed in their own thought/emotional fields. who among us would say to another when they cry; suffer, for u brought it upon yourself? not very helpful in a retrieval circumstance to offer that to the person u retrieve to a more comfortable place.
I don't see graduation from physical plane as losing the ability to be objective necessarily. the average person transitioning can be aware they are in transition from physical body to non/physical body.
a minority can get temporarily caught up in "how real" physical life is and how much they desire to remain within physical dimension and continue that business deal, or remain in that house they built. they are called stuck then. they simply forgot they also have a mansion in the sky.
this life is thrilling and consumes us. to begin to remember we are more than this life, this physical being possessed of individuality is to build an afterlife region to navigate to upon death, even if that area you gravitate to, is to find your soul mate who has gone before you, or your greater family/disc. it is still a paradigm you have built.
some of these we retrieve belong to us soley, parts of our disc/oversoul. if they are stuck we nudge them from something sticky to see it not there. does not mean they are weak at all. it just means each person we can nudge, only strengthens our own self to provide a staircase for them to climb up on.
it's only a dream, or a nightmare for some. in the end the curtain falls and we just say, oh, man, I thought it was real that time.

to sleep perchance to dream..who said that?
I would say we are sleeping now, and when we die it will be like waking up.
it's funny how the world keeps turning and humanity will always be able to point a finger.. find a scapegoat, makes people feel better about themselves if they can make another feel wrong, but it's all just gossip, so back to my dreaming..zzzzzzz

one life at a time please, I can't chew gum and walk at the same time. maybe theres some things you just don't want to know about and maybe its a blessing to be able to forget. for just one chance to dream again.

Justin,


Interesting and helpful post.  I sort of feel like Alysia in that this life is quite interesting and more than enough for me right now.  Maybe I will come in touch with prior lives one day.  I'm just trying to take it one day at a time and be good to others now.

Maybe I'll visit Dave for a past life session.


Matthew

I believe that life would be too confusing for most, if they remembered their past lives.  Some people have a problem dealing with memories of this lifetime. For some psychological/physical problems past life remembrance does help.

The key issue is that our basic character and essence from past lives is carried over. This doesn't require that we have specific memories.

I was considering this today (as I was lecturing the shade of my late husband on how next time we're getting born next door to each other, getting married at 18, and living, happily married, to ninety...;>)

Anyway, several of the the things that wandered through my brain...it may be that more people remember than we think...if you remembered really well, couldn't you remember that rule #1  was to keep your mouth shut about it?  I don't see any reason remembering a past life would be any more confusing than remembering what I did thirty years ago (which I do sort of fuzzily anyway...).  Sort of like remembering when I was an elementary school student, which was a different "life" than I have now.

One thing that got me on *that* track was how sometimes you encounter couples who meet and marry young, do everything right, raise great families, and stay together for sixty years.  Now, if I had sixty years from *now* (and John back), I could make a sixty year relationship last, but not a chance if it started with the brat I was at 18.  However, if when I was 18 I could have remembered, if not specific  events, at least that being a screaming witch to my boyfriend, say, is not conducive to long relationships,  plus the emotional maturity to actually act on that knowledge...

Or I could be full of it...always a possibility...;>)