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a VERY  disturbing OBE (Read 16967 times)
mystic_dreamer
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Re: a VERY  disturbing OBE
Reply #30 - Nov 2nd, 2005 at 6:03pm
 
Hi there Egdio7!..................................what an awesome little story that you wrote!!! It gave me such a warm feeling! It is surely amazing in the ways that our prayers are answered!! And your heart is clearly open to hear such messages!!
Thanks for bringing your story to this thread! I really enjoyed it!!!  Grin
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Reply #31 - Nov 2nd, 2005 at 6:36pm
 
Hey Marilyn!! Grin Thanks for your input on this...I value your wisdom!!! However, I will say that I don't think that I set myself up for working with kids...I think I was set up for this long before I was ever born....and when I wasn't falling into the 'Plan' so to speak...I was led there by that helping hand at that one point in my life.
Kids and I go hand in hand....we connect perfectly..it has always been that way. I was in my teens when I started to feel other things tho and that was to spread myself out in the 3rd world countries......you have no idea how much my heart cried out for those kids.....I ignored it, and went on with my life...shame on me, literally.
When I got into childcare and then into fostering, I was in my own heaven. I had kids 24/7 and I loved it. Not only was I eduacting them but I was also giving them all the love and the care that they could ever dream of. The social workers in that part of the province all knew me...and I was one of the ones at the top of their list for a care home....my home was always full and bursting with kids and laughter and joy.
Then I moved way up north here....and that all changed instantly....all over a difference of opinions and the main factor being that these workers didn't know me......yes, they could access all the files in the ministry on me .....which they did.....but these people are a strange bunch. They wanted me to do all my training all over again and go thru the entire probationary period......that is a year and a half worth of stuff! In the meantime, they were not going to use me as a foster home.....I agreed to follow their ways and do what they wanted...but I very quickly learned that they do not operate the same here as they do down south......up here when they say that they will get back to you in a week....that really means that they will get back to you in 5 or 6 months. I got frustrated really fast. Up here, there is a huge demand for foster homes...and no where near enough homes to fill the demand....I can't imagine why. I soon became very angry with their smuggness and 'get around to it attitude'......they ran me thru the wringer more than once....picking me apart like I was some kind of criminal.....I finally had enough.
anyway.......enough of that....I have never lost my love for the kids...or the desire to help them and provide safety, love and comfort.....maybe it is time that I try to pursue this again. Maybe their office has cleaned up their act somewhat... Tongue
I do know that I am quite able to handle any kind of situation with the kids...and in groups of kids....(it's nothing to me to be packing 7 or so kids with me at any time....lol..the more the merrier for me!!)
I was always the happiest that I ever was when I had them all....snotty noses and all!
So I don't doubt what I can handle, plus more.
It's a gift that I was given....
And my heart, even tho it cries for all those kids...is what actually pumps out all the love that they get from me....funny how saddness turns to love by your heart, huh?
Thanks Marilyn!!
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Reply #32 - Nov 2nd, 2005 at 6:57pm
 
Oh and Chumley!!!! I wanted to say something about your first reply here on this thread....you mentioned that there are many kids in hell for millions of years to come.........I think you are wrong on that. I don't believe that children ever go to hell...there is hell on earth, yes, and for many kids their life here on earth is hell....just as there are adults whose life is hell here. Adults can change their hell.....children cannot....and somewhere in the Bible it says that the children are never hell-born.....that God keeps them under his wing after they cross over into the next life. They never go to hell ....just straight to be with Jesus. Children who die from abuse in this lifetime...doesn't send them to hell, even if hell was for kids.........if their life is taken because of abuse, they will automatically go to Heaven.
Does that make any sense?? Or maybe I misunderstood what you said?
Then again....as it has been said on this board here before, we chose to incarnate into specific life patterns .......these children who have incarnated into an abusive life are doing so in attempt to learn something that they missed the first time around......I know, it doesn't make any sense why a soul would want to come back to live that way...however, there are many things to learn from living in an abusive life.......forgiveness is one of them. Also strength, self  esteem.....many many things can be taken from a life like that......
They already know that they will suffer in that kind of life....and they chose it....and sometimes maybe not just for themselves to grow on, but rather than to help another soul with a learning curve....to develop in where they are lacking.....mmmmmmm, to develop so that they can fulfill their own life plan.
See? And then out of these things, others get something from it as well...the ones who help these kids....or the ones who treat these kids in the medical system....we all get something from it....it helps us attain the goals and purposes of our own Life Plan.
But no.....kids never go to hell when they die...to continue suffering. I don't remember the facts on that Biblical statement, but if I remember correctly, it has to do something with free will and the ability to know 'right from wrong'.....and a child therefore can never know the difference at such a young age.....the drawing line is when a child reaches an age of understanding and knowingly going out and committing something wrong.........stealing a cookie from the jar and then lying about it at the age of 5 does not constitute the ability to know 'wrong from right'..........it is much more complex than that. In that case, what a child is lacking is in having learned the meaning of honesty...trust....and being able to accept the consequences of his/her actions. A child that age is not able to fully comprehend such things yet....in fact, not really until they are 11 or 12 years of age.....
I hope this makes sense.....if there was even any need for sense making at all!!! I could have just misunderstood what you said! In that case I have just babbled!!!! Again!!!!
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Reply #33 - Nov 2nd, 2005 at 8:48pm
 
Hey everyone.......I haven't been around here much over the past few days and just came back on-board today and started reading some of the replies here....which have been awesome!
Kardec, Recoverer, Alysia......Ryan......Kyo....Spooky....all awesome replies...very thoughtful, and full of your great wisdom. You have all given me much to think about.
One thing that always stands out in your replies is the love , support and understanding.....I love you guys!!!!!
I wrote a few replies here awhile ago and then took a dinner break and watched the news....
I want to share with you something that was headling our news up here....something that I had no idea of prior and shocked me. I think it relates directly to this OBE that I had that we have been talking about here.
The news story was that of an inquiry that is under way concerning the ministry for children and families in this province with respect in relation to the recent death (just a few days ago I believe) of a 2 year old native (aborignal I should say) girl.
This little girl died while in the care of a foster home. She died of swelling on the brain and other facial injuries. This child lived and died in this town that I live in.
They showed a picture of this little child on the tv.....she looks just like the child in this obe that I had.
The injuries and death were caused by the foster family....which were of the same culture as this little girl.....could have been family members that this child was placed in...the ministry here will do that...place a child in custody with other family members before placing them into direct foster care.
This is just to much of a coincidence for me.....when did I first bring this thread up?? A week ago?? Something like that? This could have been the child reaching to me....there could have been something that I could have done to stop this...if only, I don't know what.
I was thinking about one of the replies here on how I could be helping these kids thru my dreams....and that gave me some hope. That my presence was known to the dad and that prevented him from further abusing this child, at that moment.......and then in another reply, it was said that I should write stuff down and then I would remember more smaller bits and peices of this and that it would help me to figure this out further. Which I did.....started writing things down....and yes, there was more that I remembered in doing this. I remembered that I saw the dad on a few different moments in this obe, reach for and grab this little girl in such a way that he hoped that I wouldn't notice .......as in, make his own body move in such a way to hide what his hand was doing to this girl (pull her hair....or to grab the flesh of her arm to hurt her....)....things done in such a way that I might not notice it. But I did notice....I have been there in my own life, down that same road with how my ex abused my own daughters. I know.
So....yes...I do believe that my presence helped......and it is a comforting thought to me to know or think, that my presence even while dreaming, will help these kids. However, it didn't seem to help this little girl because now she is gone.
Maybe this wasn't an obe for me but instead just one of those dreams that shows me something that is about to happen.
At this point, I feel hugely disillusioned and confused.
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Reply #34 - Nov 3rd, 2005 at 6:28pm
 
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Hey Marilyn!!  Thanks for your input on this...I value your wisdom!!! However, I will say that I don't think that I set myself up for working with kids...I think I was set up for this long before I was ever born....and when I wasn't falling into the 'Plan' so to speak...I was led there by that helping hand at that one point in my life.


Yes, very true. And YOU were the one who chose this life before you came into it along with help from guidance. And you've had help all along the way to accomplish this. Wink

With Love,
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Reply #35 - Nov 3rd, 2005 at 7:44pm
 
Geeze Marilyn.....this reply of yours has really made me feel good!! "puffed up my wings'!!!!!!!
Thanks!!!!
Love, Sandy
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Reply #36 - Nov 3rd, 2005 at 8:46pm
 
Your Angel wings. Wink

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Reply #37 - Nov 3rd, 2005 at 11:06pm
 
Sweet words, Mar.......thank you!!  Wink

And I need to make a correction here....I relayed some wrong information here last night when I passed along the news story about the 2 year old child that died while in foster care here in this town. I stated that as far as I heard in the news story, that this was a fairly recent incident.....in fact, it is not a recent one. It was again in the news tonight and this horrible incident actually happened here 5 years ago....and is just coming back into the news now  because of the inquiry that is beginning.
This incident happened 3 years before I ever moved up here and I had never heard of this story until it appeared in the news last night.
This incident came to me in a dream, or obe, one week before it hit the news again....I am thinking now that this might be a retrievel in need.......that this child came to me in need of a retrievel....or maybe the purpose is for me to speak on behalf of this child at the inquiry? I don't know.........I am not sure what good I can do in speaking at an inquiry as I have no first hand knowledge in the case...so I am thinking maybe retrievel. Could she be stuck? Or maybe there is some unfinished business in this case left to be found...something that this child is going to try to communicate to me? Any ideas?
What is the best way to go about finding more information from her.....just to speak to her before I go to sleep? To let her know that I am open and willing to listen and to help....to give me more information so that I can help her? I think I read these answers here already.....guess I just need some moral support here. I have never down anything like this before.
......and just for the sake of saying so.....it is snowing like a bugger out there tonight!!! whooooooooooopie!!! Merry Christmas!!! Sleigh bells ring....all the way to work!! lol Grin
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Reply #38 - Nov 4th, 2005 at 7:48am
 
Hey Mystic Dreamer!

This is a really exciting post and I can tell your way over the moon with it all its great that this is happening to you! You were meant to do this for sure Smiley!

If you want more information just ask to be shown and/or be taken back there to help, you are on the spot with what you said about just speaking to her but also your guides as well, they are there for you also. Also when meditating, maybe you can OBE or use phasing as a concious means again to go back and help, use your imagination to take you back and go with it, and soon it will take over and you will really be there to help.

I'm not sure how you mean with helping at the enquiry but you have to tread carefully if you are going to do this. After recently seeing the show 'Afterlife' shown here in the UK it shows a women medium trying to help and she does in the end but people don't believe her, she gets a name for herself and things go downhill etc etc and I don't want to see anything like this happen to you!!

Try asking your guides as well what should be my next move, what do i need to do to help? Maybe you might get a dream or be shown something which will give you your answers?

And lastly I can believe its snowing already there, i know you said it was freezing up but wow! Here in England its still sunny, just cold now...lol

Good Luck!

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Re: a VERY  disturbing OBE
Reply #39 - Nov 4th, 2005 at 12:02pm
 
Mystic, I'm sure that if you are meant to retrieve this 2 year old, that you will do it. I don't feel that it would do any good speaking about this at the inquiry as you know how people react and you would be labeled as a nut. People always want proof.  Look at some of the people here on this forum. Wink However, keep yourself open to anything that comes to you.

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