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Spooky's suggestions are very good, whether they apply to you (not just the original poster, but to all readers), or rather, *how* they apply to you (not necessarily limited to the subject of child abuse), is up to your own willingness to see it, and work with it.

Everything that you see, experience and react to in the world (or OBE) around you, is always a reflection of something within self; there is always a potential lesson in everything that happens, a potential for you to teach yourself (the other person, the experience, the circumstances etc, don't teach you, they facilitate you with the *opportunity* for you to teach yourself, to learn from yourself, but only from your own willingness).


As regards to the widespread extent of the difficult abuse (of all kinds), terrorism, genocide, and suffering that goes on in the world today, in which the extent which reaches the media is but the tip of the iceberg; the guides, helpers, angels and Serenissimus are fully, and acutely, aware of all of this happening, but they waste no time in feeling miserable about any of this.

Feeling miserable or sad may be associated with, but does not equate to the quality of compassion or love, a common misconception among pre-Serenissimus humans.

This is not to say one 'should not' feel sad for the abuse that one hears, observes, or witnesses. Indeed, the very feeling of anger, sorrow or sadness, is useful if one practices Clarification, via Inquiry, and leads one to clarify one's true position and understanding (ie. the TurnAround) on such matters, and *evolve* the anger, sadness or sorrow into only compassion, love and (actions towards) assistantiality.

Hence, the guides & helpers et al, being acutely aware of all of the abuse and suffering that is going on in the world today (not to mention elsewhere in this Universe), do not waste precious time and energy in feeling miserable; they feel only compassion and love, and by the best of their ability, in line with the highest CosmoEthic, work with each other to maximze assistantiality in all possible ways, in all arenas, including the original poster's topic of child abuse.

There are abuses of many different kinds and severities going on, with the vast majority not being reported in, or even known by, the media... are you going to start feeling more and more miserable to know about their existence (and hence go into denial and fragmentation), or are you going to have the more evolved attitude of the more evolved guides & helpers, angels and Serenissimus, to instead be understanding (and accepting), strong, clear-headed and clear-hearted, and now moreso than ever, seize every single moment in the maximal expression and participation in assistantiality of all forms to the best of your capacity, in accordance to the greatest good possible, the highest cosmoethics, serving the evolution of one and all?

Your will, your intention, your willingness to do this, will unlock many doors (of a multidimensional nature, the 'doors' or opportunities to assist not necessarily physical or direct), and your journey (in service and assistantiality) will never be alone.

It is important, that one recognizes the possible abuse that is going on within oneself, whenever one reads of child abuse, sexual abuse, or any form of abuse, terrorism, or suffering.

That is to say, apply the TurnAround, and take self-responsibility. So do not limit your help or actions to merely (the intent on) subduing the (for instance) abusive father, or capturing the militant terrorists, yes, that may be appropriate and have to be carried out, but just as importantly, look within, Turn It Around, and check yourself, for ways in which *you* might be abusing others (in all possible ways, not merely child abuse or sexual abuse), and also, in ways you might be abusing *yourself* (and mistakenly projecting the blame onto others).

"The father should not abuse his daughter, he should be loving and kind to her".

TurnAround #1
*I* should not abuse my daughter/family/friends/associates/subordinates/fellow humans, etc, *I* should be loving and kind to them.

TurnAround #2
*I* should not abuse myself, *I* should be loving and kind to myself.

Hence, your feelings (eg. upset when hearing of abuse cases) serve to teach you more clearly about yourself, your true intentions, and your situation, but *only* if you're willing to listen, to learn, and evolve.

Or, you could just put the blame on "that bad person", "that abuse father", in other words, excuse yourself of self-responsibility, carry out retributive actions against the abuser or 'perpetrator', and perpetuate & perpetrate the chain of suffering on and on, in the world.

The choice is yours. The first step is to see it.

(The Inquiry process, the Clarification process and the TurnAround, are explained in detail in Byron Katie's, "Loving What Is", and is strongly recommended to all wishing to act as guides & helpers in the name of love and assistantiality).

Mystic_Dreamer,

This is one tip I used when s…happens.  For the past tens years or so, when things happen, like accidents, losing stuff, or even unusual or disturbing incidents sort of in the category of your OBE dream, I’ve gotten into the habit of asking myself the simple little question, “Now why was that meant to be?”  The first part of this exercise, “Now why was that…” allows me to acknowledge that something significant has happen that disturbs me and that I don’t have enough data or overall perspective from which to make a judgment or draw a conclusion at this time.  For me, this is the part in releasing “it” to the universe, a higher power, or God.  Then when I say the second part, “…meant to be?” It helps me to acknowledge that “it” is not a random thing that happened, because I don’t believe that it’s a random universe and that “it” is all part of the plan that is meant for my higher good or as you might also put it, “It’s all part of God’s plan”.  This part allows some breathing space for me to recognize why it occurred or how to proceed or what it all about? Or even to take advantage of opportunities offered to me which I might not have noticed if I couldn’t mellow out enough from the emotional residue left from not being able to hand it over to a higher understanding. It also gives enough space to calm down by providing relief from having to understand an upsetting happening immediately when it might not be appropriate or possible.   Also it sometimes allows me to more gently increase my awareness to the more subtle clues to the answers I might get regarding the occurrence for a clearer view of how to proceed from here in a more prepared way.

The bottom line is that I’ve used this little tip many times with the most surprising results.  Some big and some small and others still to come but when these unexpected things pop up, they no longer bother me the way they used to and I can more quickly shift to letting them go and more readily notice when the explanation for the occurrence shows up. Hope this along with the many other suggestions helps to relieve you some.

Love, Jean       

Kyo, thank you so much for your post. You always know what to say and I always look to you for the wisdom you have.

Love, Mairlyn

this is a good thoughtful thread, just wanted to point out something we missed in Mystics original post, the effect that she was having upon the father, so that he was aware of her so long as she remained in his presence, so that further abuse was not enacted. this part of the obe/dream/experience shows her that she is  effective, although she fears she is not effective enough.
this gives me great hope that we can and do effect others field of energy with our own energy, despite it seems all is lost.
salut my dear Mystic. I love the children too! we can do this.

love, alysia

B-man:
Re: thumb lost in your dream

Amputation (dream symbol)
A sort of dream of contrary. If the loss in your dream was to someone else, be prepared for some unexpected difficulties ahead; but if you dreamed of the loss of one of your own members, you can look forward to an unanticipated important gain.

Prognosis: good
Perhaps no pain, just a surprise?

nadia

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Mystic

I agree with recoverer

According to my Belief System that is based on the Spirits Doctrine (SD) it’s very common to the spirits to use incarnated humans to help people in some situations.

It is due to the fact that incarnated humans astral bodies have a more “material” energetic vibe so their thoughts or even their “words” can be more easily perceived by other incarnated humans unconsciously.
So in certain situations “guides” as you call them  need to find some body that can help in situations were they feel that an incarnated human would be able to make some suggestions to other incarnated person like thoughts of forgiveness, love, care, peace and such kind of help.

So I’d suggest you to pray and send to that father’s heart some pieces of advice you feel are more appropriated in case you meet him again.

You probably have been working with those guys in such beautiful help work for a long time but now you started to have your first recalls of such experiences.

Just let your heart sends the best it has and everything will be fine.

HEY FOLKS,

Bruce Moen just put a DREAM FORUM up!  He says lots of people have wanted one...isn't that great?

nadia

Hey Mystic Dreamer...I finally got around to reading all this site again, so sorry for the late reply but I wanted to add anyway in case you catch this again...

I'm not sure whether this is C1 or astral but whatever it is I agree it is a very BIG signal that you need to do something or something is going to happen to you with this area. Don't go rushing to quit your day job however! You may be needed in the astral more than C1 but it may be the other way round.... have you asked to be shown more or given a push in the right direction? I think this will be good and see what you dream about (or OBE) and see whether this gives you any clues on what your purpose is.

Since you couldn't do anything physically i agree you were only meant to watch this. Maybe it was to reignite them inner desires, or rather turn the heat up? I'm not sure and feel others here have responded far better with more answers.

All I want to say is if theres one thing you have to take away from my post is too not get involved out there! If you go into this situation don't focus your thoughts on how bad it is, focus on what you need to do to make it better . Thats what i mean by not getting involved, step back and think OK they are suffering but I can end that, I'm here to do this and also beam out all your light energy out there with a big smile so they can see you and know you are coming to save them! Although by the sounds of what you said and from how much I know you now, you do his already !

Good luck! And please let us know if you get any other signs or dreams, we love hearing and reading from you.

Ryan