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Re: BSC : Neutralizing first bad behavior (Read 23276 times)
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Oct 27th, 2005 at 1:55am
 
As i said before, you cant prove "love" exists, so you cant tell when people give it, or when your giving it.

Life does'nt evolve around love. Sad but true.
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Reply #1 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 2:32am
 
Spitfire...I care to disagree with you on your comment: Life does not evolve around love.
In fact it is just the opposite.....life DOES evolve around love. Before you can fully appreciate your life and all the things around it and in it, you must first learn that without love, you have nothing.
True real meaning of love is a sense of outstanding peace within you and a love for all things that surpasses all external things.
With true love you cannot feel hate. You do not recognize borders. You do not feel negative. You do not 'want' for better things.
Instead you are content, peaceful, sympathetic, understanding, caring, tolerant...and so very loving of everything and everyone.
That is the love that makes the world go 'round. Sorry....but that is the great truth about the matter.

To find that kind of love and begin to live life to it's fullest, you need to change your way of thinking...and open up your heart and feel the true goodness that comes to you...be it in the wag of a tail of a friendly dog running to you...or the smile on a child's face....the sound of the ocean waves ....the smell of a newborn baby.
All the things that money can't buy....and when you can feel the joys of these things in your heart, then you will be well on your way to finding what true love is.
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Reply #2 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 3:21am
 
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Spitfire...I care to disagree with you on your comment: Life does not evolve around love.
In fact it is just the opposite.....life DOES evolve around love. Before you can fully appreciate your life and all the things around it and in it, you must first learn that without love, you have nothing.
True real meaning of love is a sense of outstanding peace within you and a love for all things that surpasses all external things.
With true love you cannot feel hate. You do not recognize borders. You do not feel negative. You do not 'want' for better things.
Instead you are content, peaceful, sympathetic, understanding, caring, tolerant...and so very loving of everything and everyone.
That is the love that makes the world go 'round. Sorry....but that is the great truth about the matter.

To find that kind of love and begin to live life to it's fullest, you need to change your way of thinking...and open up your heart and feel the true goodness that comes to you...be it in the wag of a tail of a friendly dog running to you...or the smile on a child's face....the sound of the ocean waves ....the smell of a newborn baby.
All the things that money can't buy....and when you can feel the joys of these things in your heart, then you will be well on your way to finding what true love is.


But, your love, would'nt be anothers version of it, someone whos scared of drowning aint gonna like the ocean view.

I understand peace, and tranquility, but none of those are love.

as i have said before, "love" used as a context of the "the familiarity of an object", is just selfishness kicking in.

You "love" somthing for what pleasure they give you. Once they loose that pleasure then hate, and bitterness kick in.

Money, is what makes the world go round.

Money, in terms of security? no.

Money allows you to buy things which give you pleasure.

Money, could buy you, your ocean view/ it could buy you a pack of dogs.

Now on to organs, the heart is a pump, for to long people say "feel goodness in your heart". The heart dont feel diddley p00p except real physical pain/sensations.

i dont feel bad and me heart goes into arrest.

This aint a personal attack by the way, i just want to get my point across, thats beliefs based on fairy tales, lead to hate/bitterness and dissapointment.




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Reply #3 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 7:09am
 
Spitfire and WF

When one day you booth have a son (i guess you're not prepared for it) You will understand love as it really is. (than you booth will stop of sayng that bla,bla about love that you think you know what it is.)

And you will discover that it doesn't matter what that person does or where that person is You will always be happy once that person (yuur son) is happy. But I think one of you know nothing about love beacuse of a empty life and the other is in panic and afraid of something that have happended.

I got tired people doesn't seen to evolve with soft words.

Sorry I'm a bad Guy.
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Reply #4 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 10:01am
 
I like you I don't know why but if Í didn't I would say that I wish you to find a truth exactly like you think (or is afraid of ) it is.

I did not let it clear which one was that one with the empty life. You choosed it by your own.
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Reply #5 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 10:21am
 
Despite the fact that I unfortunately have never experienced an OBE, my beliefs come from my studies of the Spirits Doctrine (faith).
I must say that we are here to exchange our experiences (the ones who had it) in order to help each other to figure out what we are dealing with.
Not to convince the ones who don’t share the same experiences that what we are going through is truth. It was never the goal here.

I was talking about LOVE and I indeed know what it is. Some thing that you’ll have to find your self.

PS: The one with the empty life is WF I classified you as the one in panic.
(I'm not teasing you it's what I feel)
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Reply #6 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 10:41am
 
When we are in the initial steps of our evolution we only feel sensations.

After some thousands of years we start to have  instincts.

Some time after we are able to feel sentiments\emotions.

The next step is to feel and understand love and faith that are beyond any explanation.

Go ahead you have a lot to discover
(just a few parts of it will be learnt from external experiences I’m sorry)
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Reply #7 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 11:00am
 
Spitfire,

If the brain expansion means that I’m going to change the way I feel about the life to start to feel like you do, please let me in my joy full ignorance.
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Reply #8 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 11:20am
 
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I'm really happy I love the life, my wife, my son and some others near me.
How about You? If you is happier than me so I'm interested at all you have to teach me but if you don't …sorry I'll let it go. Wink  So?
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Reply #9 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 11:23am
 
Hi Kardec...........great responses here. I like what you have said....there is nothing more beautiful and loving in the world to see a child smile....to feel their love for you and to feel the contentment in their heart. Kardec, you are a peaceful person and you know what real love is. That is the kind of love that makes the world go around.
However, I think that there are members here who just get their pleasure from hearing themselves spout off. Seriously, I cannot believe some of the rubbish that I have read here this morning! It isn't worthy of further responses. There are those who just enjoy getting under other people's skin and I believe this is just one of those examples.
A very small part of learning on this board is in learning who is here in honesty and sincerity and who is here to simply make a fool of themselves......which are the ones who need to be weeded out and left to be on their own.
For myself, I have much more learning to do and my time does not need to be wasted by defending something as basic as what love really is....and to hear that money is what makes the world a great place!!
For you Spitfire and White Feather....how happy are you going to be when your money runs out?? Are you going to be happy then? When you are broke? Are you going to be happy when you can't put food in your tummy? Pay your rent?
No of course not. You won't be happy at all.
However, when you have truely found the real meaning of love and have secured that peaceful feeling in your heart...then you will be happy whether you are flat broke or filthy rich.........it will not matter either way the size of your bank account.
Money may make life easier for you...but it is not going to give you everlasting happiness....or even enough happiness to get you thru to the next payday.
However....chose if you will to wallow in your shallow beliefs that money will bring you happiness and that love is such a farce that needs to be proven.
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Reply #10 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 11:29am
 
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I like what you have said....there is nothing more beautiful and loving in the world to see a child smile....to feel their love for you and to feel the contentment in their heart. Kardec, you are a peaceful person and you know what real love is. That is the kind of love that makes the world go around.


I did feel your words like a kiss in my heart, thank you.
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I'm really happy I love the life, my wife, my son and some others near me.
How about You? If you is happier than me so I'm interested at all you have to teach but me if you don't …sorry I'll let it go. Wink  So?


I never claimed to be happyier then you. i just said people use "Love" as the foundation of there beliefs, and i dont understand how they do this when they cannot even explain what love is.






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Reply #12 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 11:35am
 
Spitfire how can I explain LOVE to you?

Let's try

What is love and what is not?

Is love:

You know if you love a grill when you’d rather see she (her?) in other guy’s arms than smashed by a truck

Is not love:

You know you don't love a grill if you'd rather see she (her?) smashed by a truck than in other guy's arms.

Did it helped a little?

English is not that easy to me.
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Reply #13 - Oct 27th, 2005 at 11:46am
 
People use awareness all the time, eventhough they can't explain precisely what it is. It is just this magnificient thing that exists. The same can be said of pure, unconditional love.

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Hi Kardec...........great responses here. I like what you have said....there is nothing more beautiful and loving in the world to see a child smile....to feel their love for you and to feel the contentment in their heart. Kardec, you are a peaceful person and you know what real love is. That is the kind of love that makes the world go around.
However, I think that there are members here who just get their pleasure from hearing themselves spout off. Seriously, I cannot believe some of the rubbish that I have read here this morning! It isn't worthy of further responses. There are those who just enjoy getting under other people's skin and I believe this is just one of those examples.
A very small part of learning on this board is in learning who is here in honesty and sincerity and who is here to simply make a fool of themselves......which are the ones who need to be weeded out and left to be on their own.
For myself, I have much more learning to do and my time does not need to be wasted by defending something as basic as what love really is....and to hear that money is what makes the world a great place!!
For you Spitfire and White Feather....how happy are you going to be when your money runs out?? Are you going to be happy then? When you are broke? Are you going to be happy when you can't put food in your tummy? Pay your rent?
No of course not. You won't be happy at all.
However, when you have truely found the real meaning of love and have secured that peaceful feeling in your heart...then you will be happy whether you are flat broke or filthy rich.........it will not matter either way the size of your bank account.
Money may make life easier for you...but it is not going to give you everlasting happiness....or even enough happiness to get you thru to the next payday.
However....chose if you will to wallow in your shallow beliefs that money will bring you happiness and that love is such a farce that needs to be proven.


You really anger me.
Some people on this board are complete weaklings.

You dont even know kardec, for all you know he could be a mass murderer, but "he's a peaceful, kind man, i can feel love ozzing from ever pour, (does'nt matter that you cant explain what love is though).

You proved my point about money, No i wont be happy without it. I would be hungary and homeless cold and miserable unable to feed my family. You would'nt be happy either. "loveness" aint gonna make your body stop crying out for food, or your child dieing from starvation.

I NEVER claimed money made the afterlife turn round, only this world.

You married someone who beat ya, it says to me your a gulable person, who will believe anything people sell.

I am usually as honest as i can be. You may not like what i say, but it's what i think. It's based on FACTS. Not a fairy tale.



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