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Spitfire said...
You really anger me.
Some people on this board are complete weaklings.
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Hello again, Spitfire.
Tell you what. You and me aren't friends and we never will be. I wouldn't have it any other way, and I think you'd say the same. "Facts is facts"... I think you can dig that.
But I've gotta give the Devil his due...
You AREN'T the Dumbsky Sh!tsky that I had you figured for, you are a thinking individual. That's a GOOD thing in my book. If I didn't think that you were, I wouldn't be speaking to you, period.
I'll even go so far as to say, my response to you on 29 September was UNWARRANTED... I'll admit my blood was boiling to start with about my cousin, and something about your post set me off. What the Hell, eh?
Nobody's Mr. Perfect... Not me, and not you.
'Nuff said on that. You call other people "weaklings" on account of their ideas.
What do you mean? What is "weakness" in your book, Spitfire? I'm curious.
Also, I must admit, your arguments and attitude intrigue me, in spite of myself. (I daresay you and I have more in common than EITHER of us would like to admit. To wit, we are probably the two most opiniated bastards on this entire forum..!)
So - let's grab the bull by the horns.
I hereby repeat my invitation to P.M. me, and we can talk some more in a PRIVATE venue. Why are you here, for starters? No accusation intended, I'd like to see what got you interested in this stuff, and what you'd like to find out about it.
Why not have a civilized exchange of ideas, you and I?
Are you game?

B-man

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The heart is classified as the love center because of the heart chakra, one of our 7 main chakras. Do a search on it, you just might learn something.

As far as dogs wagging their tails, that's not the only way that dogs show us unconditional love. I just realized that trying to explain anything to you is a waste of my time.

Namaste`
Mairlyn

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You can only prove it to yourself.

And it would save me a lot of time if you looked things up for yourself. A true seeker seeks for himself.

Namaste`
Mairlyn

Justin 2710, I really liked your response to Spitfire because for the past week I have been drawn back to Monroe’s discussions with his probes concerning I-There and (M) in UJ (pgs. 185 thru 199) and want to go a bit further in connecting the theories about energy to Love feelings, loving attitudes, and beliefs based on love and how these things work to effect positive results in our lives.  I know they work but I’m trying to better understand the hows and whys (and NO I ain’t talking about being rich).  While I’m reading Monroe’s description of (M), I’m also trying to coordinate it with Jampolsky’s, Mini Course for Healing Relatioships and Bringing About Peace of Mind , based on ACIM and remembering the positive results I receive in counteracting the feeling of fear when I use the love exercise given by Bruce in The Afterlife Guidebook. I didn’t fully internalize the concept that it is the use of energy derived from our emotions that makes the love energy (UJ pg.176) work and prevents the fear energy from gaining a foothold, but I’m getting there.  So your response helped me to tie some of these fragments together to gain a bit more understanding of the mechanics and gave me the motivation to attempt to put it in writing.

What I’m coming up with so far is that because:  

1.I can see/feel the positive results of this Love energy in action: For example: feelings of peace within and without as I never expected to find as I interact in my physical/non physical environments and experience a reduction in my fears while doing so. I’ve also had the perks of feeling and giving PUL just for fun in addition to my gaining a sense of empowerment and a bit more gratitude for being here. I also experience more of a sense of adventure in my life especially in dealing with others and lots of other good stuff but Spitfire and Justin are right, this is very selfish indeed but then again, I doubt anyone can give love without loving themselves first.
 
2.And can use many ways to start the Love energy going: I can choose to take position/attitude/beliefs in thoughts and behaviors, which create more positive interactions.  For example I: Use ACIM or Jampolsky’s non-sectarian version of ACIM , and say to myself with the goal of internalizing these views, “The essence of my being is love as it is with all others humans, I can choose peace instead of this, Since love is eternal-fear of death is not relevant, I can be a love seeker rather than fault finder, I can always perceive others as either extending love or giving a call for help, Giving is receiving, My safety lies in my defenselessness, Today I will judge nothing that occurs…etc.” or use any other affirmations/ statements that help me to stay focused on a more positive track. I’m trying to understand the suggestion made to Monroe in UJ  of turning your (energy) receptors off by deliberately ignoring negative influences but the power of this is still new to me and it does help to use Bruce’s seeing it not there or trying his Law of Love and Fear exercise to allow for more loving experiences.  I the past, I’ve told myself to just let something go which I would formally stew over. Of course others might use a combo of these plus any other methods which aid in using love energy and redirecting negative energy. (Obviously us humans always have the option of maintaining or taking the opposite stance, that of perpetrating negativity as many do because either way the energy/thought thing would work.)

3.And this works because Love is an energy and we are all connected: For example: Justin’s concept that if Unified Field Theory was proven that everything has consciousness, that all Consciousnesses were alive…etc. and Monroe’s findings recorded in UL chapter 13, Fine Tuning regarding “(M)-broad field of energy…unrecognized by contemporary civilization…common to and operational within and out side time space present… (M): adjacent to thought>Love [(mine), fear, hate, etc.] is band of (M) adjacent to thought…thought affects and modulate (M) radiation. Learning to control (M) Field thought radiation, etc”.  In other words emotions/feelings are energy which effects all beings in physical or non-physical planes.  

Great theories to play around with in a general sort of way when discussing, Is Love Real(?) and the mechanics of how it might work in all types of situations where people connect.  

For those of you who don’t believe that love is real because you can’t see, taste, or feel it but that fear is because you can see, taste, and feel it, what is there to loose by experimenting with love as a real tool at your disposal as many use the tools of fear, or hate, or any other negative emotion which surrounds to protect you/them from sadness from loss, hurt from being rejected or abused and to generally ward off others from getting too close.  Really, what do you have to loose that you haven’t lost already?  Personally I’ve gained much by trying these different love suggestions/exercises because of being tired of hurting, feeling at the mercy of my emotions, being angry, and have instead enjoyed playing with them and/or using them at different times in the past 15 years.  I don’t wish to go back to that space where I didn’t have the experience of seeing that these types of love belief exercises really do work in changing what I attract into my life and for peace of mind.  Maybe someday all this Love glue stuff will be visible under a microscope, as Spitfire would like, but I doubt it because I think it’s greater than merely the physical.  Just thought I’d throw this out there in case it fills in the gaps for someone on a similar path.    

Jean

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Since I do like to prove things for myself, which I did when I read Bruce's books and attended TMI and started exploring the afterlife MYSELF, my bear skin is getting thread-bare and I'm ready to graduate to a buffalo robe. 

Give a man a fish and he can eat. Teach a man to fish and he can feed a village.

Peace, Mairlyn 

And yes, keep a grain of salt handy. BUT...
It may give you some food for thought.
Here it is:

www.cfpf.org.uk/

Good questions, BTW. Remember a couple things,
though...
We are all "locked inside our skulls", if you please. We are all essentially ALONE, reliant on subjective impressions processed via our brains. Just HOW reliable are those 5 senses of yours when it comes to ultimate objective reality (if it even exists..!) And do our brains function as a "storage tank" for memories... or are they a "receiver" of some kind? Current science gives us no answer, and EITHER ONE could easily account for the mental deterioration of say, Alzheimers OR loss of function due to brain damage.
Some of the latest developments in physics seem to indicate that physical reality is a "hologram" projected from an "intrinsic reality"...
What the hell is DOING this "projecting", might I ask???
Also... you seem to place great faith in current scientific "wisdom" regarding the nature of the universe. Remember... we are a PRIMITIVE civilization, Spitfire. What the hell do we really KNOW about ultimate reality? Most popularly "canonized" cosmological thinking is based on 17th-century Newtonian ideas... (And furthermore, ask yourself why we are (practically) no closer to a cure for cancer than we were at the end of World War 2, when we first made cancer a "big science" priority... or why we still rely on BURNING THINGS to produce energy - just like we did a couple millennia ago? And where's those flying cars and fusion reactors we were supposed to have by now?)
I'll talk to you some more, after I sleep off all the beer I drank last tonight.
Till then,

B-man

The Field is heavy reading but it ties our consciousness and the universe together in terms from the smallest level, to larger ones.  It is worth a read - best book I have read recently


Matthew