I have tried to help.  And sending money or my bank account number is not necessarily an act of love.  I think this board has become WF's own psychoanalysis corner - and many like myself have been sincere in our efforts.

The board is directed toward the afterlife and consciousness, however, and as such - these rants do not belong here.  They are self indulgent, selfish and not geared toward the afterlife, or a general discussion.

WF - you are truly creating your own hell - despite counseling and effort by myself and others to stop you.  Sorry to hear it, but you talk and talk and don't truly take advice.  So, you are making your bed of reality; now you will have to sleep in it.

Pleasant dreams, dear one.

White Feather,

When I encouraged you to make your own mistakes my purpose was to encourage you in a general way.  That was sincere advice from my own life experience.  I won't involve myself in your topics again.

This type of posting that you did here is self-destructive and completely unrelated to the purposes of the forum.  It is sad to me because everyone here has offered you so much kindness.  Goodbye, and I wish you the best.

respectfully,
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Well, love doesn't cause people to be dumb. At least ways not unconditional love. If anything it will cause people to act intelligently.

Consider the following:
A person is suffering and is need of help. You understand that they are suffering and what suffering is, because you yourself have suffered before. Therefore, you understand that sufffering is an unpleasant thing.

But what prompts you to care whether somebody other than yourself  is suffering? It isn't a matter of something you've learned. Rather, it's a matter of the power of love being alive inside of you. If you open yourself to it, you can't help but feel love towards another.

Thoughts close us off from love that is always there. They don't cause it.

Hey White feather,

I don't tend to like to get involved in situations like this, i feel they always go round in circles and only bad comes out of them but I want to reply to yours in a peaceful way to understand...

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I am confused i must of missed something.... you say about none of us gave you our bank account details, do you actually mean this or is this a metaphor for something else??

Also I always say things like this just to get people thinking, you say we are all very judgemental, but then aren't you doing the same by saying by not giving you physical help or something we don't care or even want to help, i may have got this wrong... also saying we are all hanicapped like yourself as you said is also judgemental...but then who am I to judge?

It is a difficult path and we all have faults, I believe this is the wrong way about expressing your feelings about ours but also at least we have helped since you now say you feel slightly happy thinking you know we have the same....

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This is the internet, anyone can be anyone here, I am sure the majority here are who we know them as and not just something they have made up. Also some people may not want to share their problems here, we don't all experience the same problems you do, i don't see how you can say this and think of justifying it, everyone is different, everyone faces their own problems. I'm sure many here have been through rough times before and just haven't said anything because what would this achieve? I myself have nothing to complain with, i could complain about  alot but then again i wouldnt feel better for it plus my problems are rather superficial even if they don't seem like it to me sometimes! Exactly like Justin said you have to look at the positive otherwise I'm sure if we all looked at the negative we could all go on for days complaining and moaning and then this board would be a place of misery not love and light which it is. [/quote]

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People here give advice and from what I have since it has all come with the intent of goodwill and helping. People did not have to post, they could of like you said earlier just looked at another topic (this is not directed at you) but people do post to help because they want to help someone who is in need. Maybe if you feel you have been treated unfairly you should say why like you feel this way rather than ranting and raving, i feel this could bring a better solution, maybe names left out would be ideal as finger pointing does no one know good, but then we can see how we have gone wrong in your eyes, we are all learning here like you stated yourself...

I have also have said a few times how grateful I am to be here with all you guys, i may have not qouted all the material things but in a whole I am so glad we can be together here, me personally I have learnt so much and found new friends here and can talk about what I experience at ease and also listen to others and help, I am grateful. I do know we are all grateful for what we have and yes whitefeather things are taken for granted and your right in saying we should notice this but just because people don't post how grateful they are doesn't mean they aren't, i feel this is a wrong assumption from you, we could go on for days saying everything we are grateful for (and i'm only thinking material things like you said) but you know what it isn't really needed to prove we are, or to prove to anyone else.


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Whitefeather I feel this applies to a lot of people not just you, we have people of many ages here, some who have only just found a place here who are older than you! We try to be understanding and directing this at you from what I have seen people have tried to help but in some cases you rejected this ideas by not taking them on and therefore like qouted before creating you own hell, I know this is always the case and from a very narrowpointed view as well as I am not entierly sure of your whole story and hell, im 18 so what do I know!

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Thankyou for yours too. I hope I have touched on something and made you think a bit more on this subject, but please make us think more as well as I have stated but lets keep this thread open to communication, so many times in my limited time here have I seen words thrown about and things said which have done more worse than good.

Ryan

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Love is learned. (if love exists, and it's not a chemical reaction based upon our experiences)

We all view "love" as our own personal interpretation of an action we assume to be morally correct by our standards.

Hitler loved his country by getting rid of the jews. Would 90% of the world agree, this was an act of love?, i doubt it. But to him it was.

The japanese during ww2, did huge barbaric things to allied soldiers, because they were taught that they were superior, they would stab woman/kids/wounded soldiers to death, without a second thought.

Love never entered the equation. Because it's personal to those who have been taught what love is.

Theres no love in the animal kingdom, it's a continous cycle of eat or be eaten.

We are merely animals with a more active brain. It is our human existence which defines us, if we were ment to be love tokens, we would have no suffering in the world.

If you get pleasure from the concept of being "loved", then go with it, but unless you can prove it's existance, then i would'nt base my entire life on injecting it into yourself and others.

Dear White Feather,

While I understand that you must be frustrated because you can't get the answers you want here, you shouldn't stop looking for them.

Secondly, we may be slightly hypocritical in some ways, but I don't believe any of us have ever claimed to be perfect. We're all just searching, too.

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That seems to be some very tough love Mair....

With Love old friend