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Faces of Fear
Oct 23rd, 2005 at 11:19am
 
Hi Guys,

Yesterday, as I was reading a rather lengthy response/quote to one of my favorite contributors, I started thinking about fear in its many guises.  I wrote this whole thing yesterday afternoon and couldn't figure out what to do with it and decided not to post it.  Then this morning I saw more of what I read yesterday and decided to start this new thread as a way for some of us who need to recognize the more subtle faces of fear:  The face of fear, what does it look like?  I recognize it when I consider doing something new and fear the unknown.  I also recognize when someone openly attacks me, I feel fear and if I chose I can see the fear in the other which prompted the attack and don’t take it personally.  But when the other comes on with niceties or words that say they are only trying to help me but I start feeling like crap it harder for me to recognize the face of fear.  A while back I was given a tip about recognizing this particular face of fear.  It had something to do about considering the fact that my gut feeling was perceiving the others words correctly. In other words, if I felt like crap after the transaction then crap was given even if the other person was my best friend and the words were wrapped in glitter with a gold bow.  But I wasn’t really able to change my reaction or self doubts until I got to know myself better and conclude that I’m an ok unique individual. 

Still I don’t like it when someone is discounting or patronizing me in that subtle hostile actually fear based way but at least I’m catching on to it better when I start to remember when I’ve done this to others and assume responsibility for my intentions.  I do it when I’m afraid that I won’t be respected and when I’m defensive with a perceived attack.  Sometimes a feeling like jealously, for example, pops up and I project that feeling in words constructed to hurt because maybe I’m feeling bad about myself and/or fear whatever and I want the other to feel bad about them self too.  But my main point is that sometimes an attack, always with fear at its core, is so restrained that we are left with only our bad feeling to guide us to recognize fear in the other being projected on to us to allow us to decide how to react and then turn that feeling into PUL by seeing the attack “not there” only maybe the fear or pain that the other is experiencing.

I’ve been playing with the “seeing it not there” thing on the physical more this past month.  When I do, it seems that I’m able to bypass physical deformities and behaviors in others that are ticking me off.  I’m seeing beautiful cores, having clearer communication, and enjoying transactions which turn out to being more loving exchanges for both parties with more laughter and joy mixed in.  Definitely more empowering than just grinning and bearing a negative exchange.

Much Love to all and hope maybe you all can come up with some more examples ??? Undecided.

Jean Kiss
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Re: Faces of Fear
Reply #1 - Oct 23rd, 2005 at 11:36am
 
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Hi Guys,

Yesterday, as I was reading a rather lengthy response/quote to one of my favorite contributors, I started thinking about fear in its many guises.  I wrote this whole thing yesterday afternoon and couldn't figure out what to do with it and decided not to post it.  Then this morning I saw more of what I read yesterday and decided to start this new thread as a way for some of us who need to recognize the more subtle faces of fear:  The face of fear, what does it look like?  I recognize it when I consider doing something new and fear the unknown.  I also recognize when someone openly attacks me, I feel fear and if I chose I can see the fear in the other which prompted the attack and don’t take it personally.  But when the other comes on with niceties or words that say they are only trying to help me but I start feeling like crap it harder for me to recognize the face of fear.  A while back I was given a tip about recognizing this particular face of fear.  It had something to do about considering the fact that my gut feeling was perceiving the others words correctly. In other words, if I felt like crap after the transaction then crap was given even if the other person was my best friend and the words were wrapped in glitter with a gold bow.  But I wasn’t really able to change my reaction or self doubts until I got to know myself better and conclude that I’m an ok unique individual.  

Still I don’t like it when someone is discounting or patronizing me in that subtle hostile actually fear based way but at least I’m catching on to it better when I start to remember when I’ve done this to others and assume responsibility for my intentions.  I do it when I’m afraid that I won’t be respected and when I’m defensive with a perceived attack.  Sometimes a feeling like jealously, for example, pops up and I project that feeling in words constructed to hurt because maybe I’m feeling bad about myself and/or fear whatever and I want the other to feel bad about them self too.  But my main point is that sometimes an attack, always with fear at its core, is so restrained that we are left with only our bad feeling to guide us to recognize fear in the other being projected on to us to allow us to decide how to react and then turn that feeling into PUL by seeing the attack “not there” only maybe the fear or pain that the other is experiencing.

I’ve been playing with the “seeing it not there” thing on the physical more this past month.  When I do, it seems that I’m able to bypass physical deformities and behaviors in others that are ticking me off.  I’m seeing beautiful cores, having clearer communication, and enjoying transactions which turn out to being more loving exchanges for both parties with more laughter and joy mixed in.  Definitely more empowering than just grinning and bearing a negative exchange.

Much Love to all and hope maybe you all can come up with some more examples ??? Undecided.

Jean Kiss


 I agree very much Jean, and it seems to be a universal human problem that we all struggle with, no matter what our specific belief systems.

 I wish i could say that i don't ever act out of fear, or project onto others...but i can't, cause i do sometimes...  If we find we do this, then we should forgive ourselves and set our Will stronger for the present/future.

 I love the "seeing it not there" way you brought up...  Or, another way to put it is to simply focus on the all inclusive bonding energy of all Creation--PUL...

 I do believe you can occasionally point out your perceptions to others about something "negative" seeming even in a personal sense, but you best be sure you are doing from the right motivation and intent for your "level" of consciousness... I look to Yesh's teachings on this, and he wasn't all nice and giggles all the time--occasionally for teaching and comparison purposes, he said things like "you hypocritcal Pharisees, ye are full of lies and deceit", yet he ultimately saw them through PUL and knew they were as much as part of God as himself..  Well anywho, the best teaching is by example anyways...and this is what Yeshua and many of the great Spiritual Teachers taught mainly from though they had their occasional sermons and parables....

 This is why i am so skeptical of so much channeling, other than most of it cannot be verified (and much just automatically rings false to me on a deep inner way)...but rather these supposedly enlightened Beings are not giving a practical demonstration of their wisdom i.e. not being an example...  I oft think they should incarnate and put their actions where their words are...seems to be a little harder once immersed in the physical plane and perhaps only those who have overcome the physical completely should be listened to with such attachment.

"By their Fruits you shall know them (like attracts like)".
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