What can i say... So there we go

Dear Alysia!

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I'm glad you call yourself a fan/student of Elias, and I'm sure that you know how many times Elias expressing that he doesn't teach but deliver informations,  what WE ASK FOR, what we all based on our own awareness distort beyond any recognition, or understand.. Also he never fail to expressing that all "understanding" are valid, but there is a difference between valid and correct.

YOU or me or anyone CANNOT "learn" how to move through in the shift, that is also based on our awareness which we also CANNOT learn either we aware or we don't.

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Yes Oscar Wild was the last  of the 3000 manifestation of Elias when referring to CRONOLOGICAL time...as all the manifestations ARE SIMULATANEOUS...no one after the other

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That might be YOUR understanding but it is NOT. That would 100% AGAINST everything what Elias and his material stand for.

Again that is great that you use informations what is fit into your beliefs, and throw away what you don't or don't care to understand but to fairness, when we  post Elias material I would say that he AND Mary deserve that  if we "quote"  use the full context,  with referrence of the transcript and let the reader understand, missunderstand, consider, read with interest, or discard the material AS IT WAS said by Elias and delivered by Mary so there will be no missrepresentation, regardless if we believe it or understand or we don't.  

This is what Elias said on one of the 100's of transcript about the shift.

http://transcripts.eliasweb.at/t_session?session_nr=284

ELIAS:  Good evening!  (Smiling)  This evening, we shall begin with an examination of your present time framework.

What be this air that hangs so very strangely upon this time period presently that moves you all in a new, strange direction that is unclear?  "What is my purpose?  What is my direction?  Where are we moving?  What does our future hold?"  These are questions that have been presented to this essence and that all of the individuals presently upon your planet are inquiring of, for these are strange times ... changing times, but interesting times!

You engage presently what I have designated in my terminology as a shift in consciousness, which is occurring presently and escalating and is affecting of all of you individually and also en masse.  Odd and peculiar events occur within your present time framework, and this moves more intensely as you move forward within your linear time.  In this, waves occur in consciousness.

Let me express to you that there is no separation within consciousness, and although you view yourselves to be separate individuals, and within this reality objectively you are, you are also not.  You are all interconnected within consciousness, and you hold no separation.  You all hold affectingness to each other en masse and individually, and in this you share many experiences.

Presently, within this now, a wave is occurring within consciousness which is directly involving this shift in consciousness.  Many individuals are beginning now to be experiencing elements of trauma and confusion.

Now; let me also express to you that as I have expressed many times previously, the reason that I speak with all of you is to be offering information in regard to this shift in consciousness, and in that to be affecting in lessening the trauma that shall be associated and IS associated with this shift.  And now, it begins.
I have been speaking for a time period with many individuals as to this shift in consciousness, but I have also been offering information to all of these individuals of self, that they may better understand their individual selves and interactions and therein hold a greater understanding of the action of this shift in consciousness.

This shift is global.  You have agreed within essence to be creating a new type of reality within your particular dimension, which is this, and in this physical manifestation you have exhausted your wonderment with your experiences that you have created previously, and now move into a new area of experience.

What is your purpose within this dimension?  Your purpose is to be manifesting for the experience of physical focus within a dimension that is focused upon the sexual and emotional aspects of physical experience.  Experience is your purpose.

 You have no mission.  You have no method.  You have no process.  You are not in school.  You are not upon a lower plane, and there are no masters that are above you that are guiding you along your path, for you have no path!  You merely hold experience.

You are essence.  You each before me presently are an individual focus of your essence.  You are a focus of attention of your essence, and your essence holds countless focuses of attention.  This be important for your information, for within the action of this shift these focuses shall bleed through to you, for there is no separation and for you are loosening the veils in consciousness that you have held throughout millennium in this particular physically manifest dimension.

Presently, as I have stated, another wave within consciousness is occurring.  Waves in consciousness occur continuously.  Some of these waves hold more of an intensity than others.  Now; let me explain briefly a wave in consciousness.  You create waves in consciousness continuously.  You label these waves objectively through your belief systems.  Let us use an example that I have presented many times to individuals, for it serves the purpose well:

You create seasons of actions.  You create seasons of waves that you respond to.  Within your physical seasons of your year, you also create a wave season; a cold season, a flu season.  This is a creation of a wave that you participate within en masse.  You all individually create this, and in agreement en masse you manifest this.  Individually you create your own individual expression or participation within this wave, or you choose not to participate within the wave.  You always hold the choice to participate or to not participate, but the wave of energy in consciousness holds such an intensity that many individuals DO participate within these waves.

This is not what you would term to be an objective choice.  You do not think, "I recognize a wave in consciousness is occurring.  We have created this.  I shall participate. I shall become ill."  No.  You do not express to yourself, "I shall become ill, for this shall be contributing to the commerce of our society."  Or, "I shall be participating in the exchange of consuming pharmaceuticals and engaging truths," -- which, Aileen, you may explain at a later time period to these individuals -- "that our economy shall benefit." (1)

No, you do not.  You merely participate.  Subjectively you DO choose for your own reasons, and those reasons shall be beneficial to you, for you do not choose any experience within your focus that is not beneficial. It may not hold pleasantness; it may not hold joyfulness.  It may hold uncomfortableness or distress, but it is beneficial.  Beneficial is not positive or negative.  In actuality, there is no positive or negative!  There merely is choices of experience.

(Intently)  No other individual creates for you.  You create your reality individually.  Every aspect, every element of it, you create.  You draw yourselves to other individuals' creations, but you are creating of this also, for you are drawing yourselves to their creations.  Therefore, you are participating and you are within agreement.

The base element of this shift in consciousness is to be identifying, recognizing, and addressing to the belief systems that you hold and to be accepting of these belief systems -- not eliminating, not altering, not changing, but to be accepting of these belief systems, which therefore renders these belief systems neutralized, which shall be creating of this new establishment in consciousness; for if you are not affected by those belief systems that you hold, you allow yourselves the opportunity to open to your awareness and you allow yourselves to view more of your reality.

I have stated many times, this shift in consciousness is limited to this dimension.  This is YOUR choice within this dimension upon this planet in this reality, and in this you may be allowing yourselves to drop these veils within your singularly focused attention and allow yourselves to be interactive and viewing of so very much more of your reality that you create within essence.  This offers you the opportunity to view and participate within the action of transition, which until recently, so to speak, in relative terms, individuals have chosen merely to engage the action of transition after disengaging physical focus.

Disengagement of physical focus, as you are most probably aware, is that moment that you choose, which you DO choose, to be disengaging of this manifestation, or what you commonly address to be death.  I do not choose to engage the word death, for there is no death.  There is merely emergence, which is birth.

But within this action of being birthed and an emergence, you enter into an action which is termed to be a transition. This transition is to be shedding completely of the objective awareness and the belief systems held within the objective awareness, that you may re-emerge -- not newly emerge, but re-emerge -- yourselves into non-physical focus and move into whatever direction you choose to move within, for you are within a continual state of becoming, and that is what you are. Therefore, if you inquire, "What am I?" or "Who am I?", you are essence and you are within a continual state of becoming.  This is consciousness.  This is essence.  This is you.

As to this wave and its affectingness and your participation within it, you may also be choosing to be participating within this wave but not within conflict, and in this you may be creating of tremendous excitement or elation, heightened senses, a time period of heightened awareness, but you also shall be addressing to belief systems, for this is the action of this particular wave. This be the reason that more individuals are presently experiencing confusion and conflict, for they are addressing to their belief systems.

All of the creations that you engage that you view to be negative or confusing are those that are addressing to your belief systems.  All of those experiences within this time framework that you choose to engage of heightened senses and elation or excitement are the acknowledgment to yourselves that you have been addressing to belief systems, and this is your validation that you are accomplishing moving through elements of your belief systems.  Therefore, there may be different expressions, but the action is the same.  It is merely dependent upon your position and how you have addressed to your belief systems ... or not addressed to your belief systems!


Love
Dora

Marylin,

I don't belong any of the discussion group, I only read the digest and previously published transcripts, which goes back to 1996 and I'm on the mailing list for transcripts.

http://www.eliasforum.org

http://www.eliasweb.at

Both have search ability for transcripts and eliasweb has "exact quote" search..

Much as I am into the general message, I'm not sure if I agree with the following part:

You have no mission.  You have no method.  You have no process.  You are not in school.  You are not upon a lower plane, and there are no masters that are above you that are guiding you along your path, for you have no path!  You merely hold experience.

This is intuitively wrong to me.  I think Elias/Mary is trying to emphasize the necessity of experience not just knowledge.  I mentioned this in a previous thread on my own (not to compare myself to a discarnate entity, just a fact).  However, the rest just does not ring true.  I have nothing to learn, I have no path?   Sorry, wrong - if I truly was aware in my conscious mind of all that is, and had answers, then there would be no path, no learning, no school.  For now, I am constantly learning.

Elias, you may be wise about some things, as Seth was.  However, you are wrong here.


My thoughts,

Matthew

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for you are within a continual state of becoming, and that is what you are. Therefore, if you inquire, "What am I?" or "Who am I?", you are essence and you are within a continual state of becoming.  This is consciousness.  This is essence.  This is you.
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hi Mairlyn. so according to the above we are becoming continually. I wonder how learning differs from becoming?
I know I had to learn a b c's in order to communicate within language. hmm. tough one! love, alysia

Alysia & Marilyn,

My take on this too, couldn't have said it better!

Jean