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Reply #15 - Oct 23rd, 2005 at 6:55pm
 
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I liked to think of it as a place where all my friends and family can hang out, everyone knows each other. We can visit all the wonderful places, lush green grass with the brightest sun ever and do what we want!
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Weather-wise, I'd like a place with lots of twilight/sunsets, alternating days/nights w/lots of stars, and plenty of electrical storms... I LOVE thunder & lightning...
maybe a coastal setting. Or would it be noontime
24/7?
Or did I just describe a "hell" realm???

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Reply #16 - Oct 23rd, 2005 at 6:57pm
 
What ever you want i guess! lol

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Reply #17 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 12:47am
 
Well cryonics is becoming more feasible fast and with the latest developments in nanomedicine and aging intervention, it is dawning on people that we may just achieve non-ageing bodies some day, and even like 100-150 years from now

Is it surprising that people think "I dont want to miss that by maybe 1-2 generations, that sucks"?

I`ve signed up for cryonics after much consideration and research. As you know, I am tormented by a fear of death, but I am not 100% convinced there is no afterlife. 95% convinced maybe. But if there is an afterlife - hope hope hope - then I do not think it will change for me if I live longer. Why? Humanity will never become immortal. Even if I will be woken up in 100 years, restored to a youthful condition and hopefully with my mind mostly intact, I can still be swallowed in an earthquake, go up in flames, be pulverized by a bomb or airplane crash....lost of lovely possibilities to dwell on. So, the afterlife will be there for me, just a bit later. Even if I live 10.000 years - whats this in the face of eternity?

But I have always been a very curious and eager person and I SO would love to see the future. Is it not conceivable that God - should she exist - has given us these great and ever-searching brains so we can, some day, live in a world where we can manufacture the basic needs for everyone without effort and live in non-ageing bodies so we are spared the pain of decay? Also, people would become much more conscious towards preserving the earth - after all, they would be there to live on it Smiley.

All in all, I decided to sign up and hope the time-ship will transport me to a future with all new, exciting possibilities. And then, when I die one day (again), I will hopefully find out you all have been right and there is even more to explore! How wonderful that would be.

Oh, and cryonicists arent all selfish narcissist, one for example has been lost to pulverisation helping others during 9/11.

And if oblivion is true..well, then at least I cheated the cold darkness out of its prey for a bit more.
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Reply #18 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 10:27pm
 
chrwe, I just responded to your post with a wonderfully described comment...apparently it was lost.  The gist of it was that upon reading your last missive I got the immediate impression that you were a sister of mine in the middle 1800's in Georgia...you were among other 8 to 12 year olds, girls and boys, playing on a swing in the yard of our father's house...he was some local official and we were the kids with alot of friends living close by.  I was older and died in the civil war...you married one of the boys playing with us that day.  Please let me know if this resonates with you at all...you won't offend me if it doesn't...again it was just the first impression I got upon reading your last comments.
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Reply #19 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 11:56pm
 
Hello Wutz,

another person told me that she knew me from New York in the 19th century and that I was married there. Maybe I moved from Georgia?

Sorry Smiley, as I said, I do not remember anything from past lives. Except maybe one thing: I used to have a very vivid dream of myself as a very old woman. I was sitting in a beautiful rose garden and I knew it was my garden. I died - heart failure, sitting in the sun on a bench and the last I knew was extreme sadness for losing my loved ones. Sadly I woke up there, so no knowledge of the "after".

English is a language that came very easily to me and that I now speak almost like it is my native tongue (which it isnt). My aunt lives in Georgia, she married someone from there. These are the only connections that could give some credit to what you say Smiley.

But it could just be me not remembering.

I did an exercise in regression once only. I fully expected to find myself somewhere in the last centuries. Instead, I saw myself as a young boy in a time that was given as 5000 years ago! I was living with my family in a dense forest, in very primitive but happy circumstances. I died when I was a child still, and I didnt understand what happened to me. Of course, this could all be my imagination. That would explain, tho, why the forest is my home and the trees are my friends. I "feel" the essence of a tree and "feel" if it is friendly, sick, rejecting...or the equivalent of tree feelings, I`m just translating it to my human experience. Of course, I could just be crazy (dont usually tell people about this).

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Reply #20 - Jun 4th, 2010 at 9:30am
 
chrwe, it would indeed surprise me if there was any verifiable connection between our past lives, however, I had three lives in the 1800's, dying in 1826, in 1864 (in Georgia) and in 1905, so your being an old woman in NY would not necessarily preclude it.  Interesting impression, none the less.

I do find it curious that upon passing you felt sadness.  With all my dying experiences I feel a tremendous sense of relief, of love and of coming home...as if an enormous burden is lifted and all sense of restriction is removed.  Loved ones either are meeting me when I pass or I'll meet them when they pass, so there isn't any sense of loss, while there is a sense of accomplishment.

Your exercise in regression sounds very interesting...and you have made two connections from past lives to this one with english coming so easily and with your ability to understand the consciousness of other forms of life.  It would be interesting to find your soul's purpose...communication must certainly be part of it.

I wish you well in your search and hope you find the comfort you seek.

Love and light.

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Reply #21 - Jun 4th, 2010 at 11:31am
 
'Normal' is overrated. What is 'normal'? What is 'crazy'? I really don't have a clue, and I don't care very much anymore.

chrwe wrote on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 11:56pm:
Of course, I could just be crazy (dont usually tell people about this).

chrwe

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Reply #22 - Jun 4th, 2010 at 11:42am
 
Perhaps this subject is similar to when people are beamed to other locations on Star Trek.  I doubt that their non-physical bodies can be beamed. Do they experience a temporary out of body state when their body is dematerialized. Does their soul travel to where their physical body went?

Would a soul hang around when a body is frozen for a long period of time? If not, then scientists might not be able to get cryonics to work no matter what they do.
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Reply #23 - Jun 4th, 2010 at 12:38pm
 
What if that body which was preserved could house a new soul? If the old one wanted to move on.
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Reply #24 - Jun 4th, 2010 at 5:00pm
 
I would strongly imagine that the old soul would have moved on out of boredom if nothing else, but I think they will be able to create artificial consciousness long before they revive someone from cryonics...so probably no great loss either way.
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