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Oct 20th, 2005 at 4:46am
 
WF,

I read the webpage, and my inner intuition tells me that channelling is phoney baloney.  Spirits who have passed on do not talk in detail abot bird flu, and events of this nature.  We are, for the most part left to our own here.  Political wranglings and agendas ring false to me when they are channeled through a son dearly departed many years ago.

I believe that the issues and understandings we may have when and if we pass, are such that we would speak of love and leave the politics and the bird flu to those in this reality.

My two cents,

Matthew
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Reply #1 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 5:38am
 
I should have written more clearly, WF.

I believe that when a spirit passes and evolves, the idea that it would come back and in detail talk about bird flu, politics and laboratories is unlikely.  I believe that existence on a higher plane is accompanied by a change in our perceptions and that we would not generally go into detail about the physical world like that if we can communicate.  These are rather trivial not for us, here in C1, but for them.

I am not discounting the possibility that the communication was real, it just struck my inner senses as false and bizzarre.


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Reply #2 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 11:20am
 
To each his own.

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Reply #3 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 11:31am
 
No disrespect intended Marilyn, if you felt these communications were genuine.  You have experience and sensitivity, and I would certainly consider that.  It was just my gut feeling on reading the webpage.

I have often wondered when I've read channelings be it Seth, Elias or other sites like this, how "real" the experiences are.  Sometimes, the wisdom seems to radiate truth and at other times, well its hard to know for sure.

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Reply #4 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 4:25pm
 
I can see your point about the subject matter of bird flue instead of PUL, but part of Mathews talk with his former mother is because it's what she wants to talk about..he can only communicate to/thru her according to what her thoughts are about, so she leads him into this. some of it resonates with me, and some things I'm not interested in pursuing, but that doesn't mean theres an intention within channeling to mislead any of us. it's just that we don't have the whole picture, so we just take what we need and throw out the rest.

myself I'm back logged with over 100 Elias transcripts to catch up on. most of it I scroll on by, as when a person is asking what is their spiritual name, and how many is in their disc is extremely boring to me, as well the info that this one was affiliated with King Louis whatever.....so I go right to the meat that I seek within such channelled material...much of that meat has to do with how your create your reality, your sense of well being, by non denial of your needs. He also is the only one who tells us the shift in consciousness upon the earth does not have to entail suffering. I never fail to get a meal there as Elias always has the same message...don't sweat the small stuff and allow all others their belief system to own for none is wrong and yet none are right. it just all is.

he's a jolly beast. used to be Oscar Wilde I hear. some part of his essence was.

I guess what I get out of him is never tell yourself "I can't." say I can and trust that you will never let yourself down, as you deserve the best that life has to offer.
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Reply #5 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 6:08pm
 
A lot of Matthew's channelings are answers to questions that people have asked.

Time (which doesn't exist) will tell.

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Reply #6 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 10:32pm
 
Marilyn,

I apologize as I'm steering off the topic for a second : Many people say that Time equals Money, so this means Money doesnt exist either. I bet it doesn't! Grin

Love,
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Reply #7 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 10:59pm
 
 Matthew wrote, Quote:
"I have often wondered when I've read channelings be it Seth, Elias or other sites like this, how "real" the experiences are.  Sometimes, the wisdom seems to radiate truth and at other times, well its hard to know for sure."


 I very much agree with you, and i often feel the same way..  This feeling does not reflect on those who do believe in these.

 Also, i believe channeling is a much more complicated subject than most realize...there are many factors for accuracy of information, and even those with real gifts and contacts, often skew or have info skewed for various reasons...  The only pure undistorted channel of info, is an individual who is of complete White Light consciousness themselves... the next best thing is someone who is completely unconscious, and very deep into the delta region like Edgar Cayce went into.  He had very little of his conscious ego interfere with his info, which is part of the reason why it has stood the test of time for some many years..but even there it has some skewing (plus many bad interpretational myths perpetuated by many authors througout the years).

 In the end, keep the left brain active too, but be uplifted by the many messages of positivity, Light, and Love that many channeled info talks about.

 I also agree, i also get the feeling or believe spiritual Masters would not spend that much time on political and other very human oriented matters as in the above channelings (Matthew), and yet another channeled source which denies Yeshua going to the cross and dying...  Sometimes i wonder if these are just recycled old news, like it started with Seth, then Elias mentions it, then the above mentioned one, etc..   To be credible, more should try to give out some stuff that can really be verified from beyond an honest doubt.

 I read the one on by "Matthew" about sunscreen, and while i don't automatically discount the idea that certain companies could be putting questionable chemicals in sunscreens (by accident, or on purpose...) which raise the cancer rate more than sun does...  The argument is just down right inane.  Have they not considered that the increase in skin caner is also because of the rapidly depleting ozone layer, and that even many dark peoples who enjoyed great health even with too much sun, are even now themselves getting too much of a u.v. dose?   Derr!  
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Reply #8 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 11:05pm
 
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Marilyn,

I apologize as I'm steering off the topic for a second : Many people say that Time equals Money, so this means Money doesnt exist either. I bet it doesn't! Grin

Love,
C:>


  Hi Carlos i bet you're right!  Just wish i had more of it..even though it don't exist. Roll Eyes  Lol, you have a unique sense of humor.

With Love
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Reply #9 - Oct 21st, 2005 at 5:04am
 
I also read on the Matthew page something about alien colonies on the moon, and other far out stuff.  Again, I will never say never, but there is so much more basic info. to pass on to help us evolve.

I do not doubt Matthew's mother's sincerity and good intentions.




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Reply #10 - Oct 21st, 2005 at 9:37am
 
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Me neither...  I think a lot of channeling is just subconscious recyling of thoughts, ideas, etc. that are not overtly in the conscious mind...  Say you read about a theory or idea years and years ago, and don't remember it at all consciously and haven't though about it for years...  Well, it just might get "channeled" out of you.

 Paul Solomon was a real good example of this, and he had quite the following...  Not one of his "readings" could be verified, and all his specific prophecies were way off...  I agree with Michael Mandeville, he was a great philospher, but he didn't channel outside information.

   Solomon, did exactly the same thing Cayce did, he layed down and put himself in a deep trance, and had suggestions and questions given to him to answer...   His stuff sounds just like Cayce, and it is clear that he studied the readings quite in depth at one point... It was all recycled, said in slightly different ways though.

 And there is always the oft present ego temptation for believing one is a channel, especially of the Ascended Masters, or Spiritually enlightened E.T.'s etc.  Many channeling stuff i read, i get this red flag go off about this very same aspect, not that i judge the individual.  At least i try not to.

Most of the real, and very good channels...did not want, or very much didn't like being channels, especially at first--like Cayce.

 But now with the new age in full progression, everybody and their sister wants to be some great channel for on High.

 Its far more important just to be an example in your daily life of Christ/Buddha living...this has far greater impact on the Collective Consciousness than just some words, even if they are nice ones.  Ditto with psychic abilities, though i believe Retrievals are quite important.

 I really respect people who can do both, like Bruce Moen...  I get the strong sense that Bruce is a very loving person who has spent most of his life working on himself and learning to love others unconditionally...and he happens to be pretty psychic too...  Course he has pulled the Edgar thing, but with a purpose, so its understandable.

 In fact, as Bruce has pointed out, the more filled with PUL you are, the more your latent senses are expanded.....
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Reply #11 - Oct 21st, 2005 at 9:42am
 
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I apologize as I'm steering off the topic for a second : Many people say that Time equals Money, so this means Money doesnt exist either. I bet it doesn't! 


I wish LOL  Actually, with the earth changes and the changes that will be coming, money most likely won't exist and it will all be bartering or will be done away with.

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Reply #12 - Oct 21st, 2005 at 9:45am
 
 We have 3 aspects of mind, conscious, subconscious, and super conscious.

 True channeling comes mostly from the super conscious which corresponds with our Total Selves/Disks, but is balanced with the subconscious and conscious mind to some extent.

 In everything, in every aspect of life there needs to be balance... maybe this is why 3 shows up so much in spiritual literature?   And 7 which is the most balanced number there is symbolically.... and its no accident we have 7 major Chakras, and a Trinity (both Christian and Hindu) of negative/passive/feminine/matter/Mother,  positive/active/masculine/spiritual/Father, with the balance of the Father/Mother i.e. positive and negative forces which birthed the Son or Light/Love, which is what our manifest reality is based on....

 And we must become like the Son, perfectly balanced between the two, if we are to become and know the Father again--Spirit.  Spiritual, constructive energies are always positively charged in vibration...meaning they are ever active, and expanding, just as the Creator is ever active and ever expanding....
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Reply #13 - Oct 21st, 2005 at 2:14pm
 
Now *that* would be something. In that case it'd be nice to think that we could all pay with Love. Imagine that? Going to your store, taking home a 60" flat screen... believe me, I will love with all my heart you every time I look at it. Tongue

Love (minus flat screen),
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