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Re: Thought-form manifestation
Oct 20th, 2005 at 4:39am
 
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Reply #1 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 8:31am
 
White Feather,

You can choose how to feel.  I would advise that when you feel anxious or restless that you try using some meditation cds of some kind which use verbal guidance to bring you to the state of mind you desire.  As you practice with these you will become more accustomed to these more positive feelings and you will be able to access them more easily when you choose. 

Some negative feelings are useful and necessary at times but you can entrain yourself to have a positive view of your world.  If you have an actual chemical imbalance in your brain causing anxiety, medication can actually be very very helpful for many people.

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Reply #2 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 8:57am
 
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White Feather,

You can choose how to feel.  I would advise that when you feel anxious or restless that you try using some meditation cds of some kind which use verbal guidance to bring you to the state of mind you desire.  As you practice with these you will become more accustomed to these more positive feelings and you will be able to access them more easily when you choose.  

Some negative feelings are useful and necessary at times but you can entrain yourself to have a positive view of your world.  If you have an actual chemical imbalance in your brain causing anxiety, medication can actually be very very helpful for many people.

love, blink


I agree and very much disagree.  I wouldn't advise going down the medication route, i've been there, done that, and know others who have...

It creates more of an imbalance in the long run, and there has been a spike in suicide rates among teenagers who are on this Corporate/Capitialistic pushed poisions...and it is all about profit, profit, and more profit..  Most of these pharmacuetical companies do not want you to get better, they want you to keep buying their product..they want a life long customer so they can make more and more money....  If our medical system in the u.s. especially wasn't so corrupt, then why are these drugs so goshdarn expensive...  its ridiculous and getting worse everyday... and of course they trying to keep people from getting cheaper stuff in Cananda...

In essence, how can a pill cure or even treat something which often has its roots in a body/mind/ and spiritual imbalance...

  It often needs to be treated on this holistic trinity.  I know, i did it without any of this crap...

And what really interesting, is after i started to take prozac for a few month (stopped after this), is when i developed moderate psoriasis, and a really bad hive problem which would happen anytime my body became warm or hot...

  My body was trying to elminate these extremely acid toxins through my sweat glands, and these toxins being so acid would quite literally irritate my whole skin system..  It wasn't only the prozac, it was immense stress, really crappy acid forming diet, spinal misalignments, etc. too, but it seems like the poisonous prozac was a catalyst for this to get much worse in my system.

  If you have any questions about healing yourself from a holistic standpoint, p.m. me and i will give you some suggestions and book recommendations.

With Love,
Justin
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Reply #3 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 8:59am
 
Hi White Feather,

Maybe you are resentful of someone or something. Maybe you have been hurt pretty badly. Maybe you are setting this fear ahead of you in a unconscious (or sub?) effort to protect yourself from the "truth" which is sometimes hard to swallow.

I have no idea what you've been through. Just my thoughts.

Love,
Carlos.
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Reply #4 - Oct 20th, 2005 at 10:30am
 
I understand what you say about the medical establishment, Justin. 

However, for some people, sometimes, it medication can be a beneficial solution, and not necessarily permanent.  There are herbs or other holistic methods, obviously, which can be just as effective.  I suggested the meditation cds (a holistic method) because White Feather seems to desire a personal experience and this is the easiest that I know of.

love, blink
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Reply #5 - Oct 22nd, 2005 at 2:15am
 
I agree and very much disagree.  I wouldn't advise going down the medication route, i've been there, done that, and know others who have...

It creates more of an imbalance in the long run, and there has been a spike in suicide rates among teenagers who are on this Corporate/Capitialistic pushed poisions...and it is all about profit, profit, and more profit..  Most of these pharmacuetical companies do not want you to get better, they want you to keep buying their product..they want a life long customer so they can make more and more money....  If our medical system in the u.s. especially wasn't so corrupt, then why are these drugs so goshdarn expensive...  its ridiculous and getting worse everyday... and of course they trying to keep people from getting cheaper stuff in Cananda...

In essence, how can a pill cure or even treat something which often has its roots in a body/mind/ and spiritual imbalance...

  It often needs to be treated on this holistic trinity.  I know, i did it without any of this crap...

And what really interesting, is after i started to take prozac for a few month (stopped after this), is when i developed moderate psoriasis, and a really bad hive problem which would happen anytime my body became warm or hot...

  My body was trying to elminate these extremely acid toxins through my sweat glands, and these toxins being so acid would quite literally irritate my whole skin system..  It wasn't only the prozac, it was immense stress, really crappy acid forming diet, spinal misalignments, etc. too, but it seems like the poisonous prozac was a catalyst for this to get much worse in my system.

  If you have any questions about healing yourself from a holistic standpoint, p.m. me and i will give you some suggestions and book recommendations.

With Love,
Justin
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I knew a girl who was on anti-depressant meds (my
best bud's girlfriend) and she was on a NEW ONE about every month or so... (first Wellbutrin, then Remeron, then Lexapro, then Celexa ad nauseum...)
All she got out of the experience was about 20 extra drug-induced pounds. Then my buddy dumped her...
She also got kind of squirrelly... started hanging on ME while he was at AIT in the Army (he and her are about 10 years younger than me) and I probably could've played "Jody Boy" pretty easily (me 34 y/o, her 21/22... THAT woulda been weird) IF I was that sort of cad. But I didn't... she wasn't worth losing a friend over. she also developed a "self-cutting" habit while on  one of them... my buddy said he caught her carving on herself with a razor! (It was Remeron, I believe.)
I wouldn't advise anyone to go within 10 miles of these drugs... the benefits are mostly placebo effect and the side effects are truly nasty.
If I were an M.D., I'd prescribe sugar pills instead... statistically, they're about as likely to work (no side effects either!) But where would my Big Pharma kickbacks be then? AND of course, I'd have to LIE to my patients..! But, doctors do that every day... right?

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Reply #6 - Oct 22nd, 2005 at 7:05am
 
White Feather,

You are sensing that there is an answer, but you are frustrated that you don't have it? Get in touch with your guide(s), or find someone who can. And/or, start working on your intuition, if you aren't already.

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Reply #7 - Oct 22nd, 2005 at 11:11am
 
White Feather, go here and listen to the meditations:
http://www.orindaben.com/meditations/orinmeditations.htm

Then go here and get a book or two. You can get them a lot cheaper used on amazon.com.
http://www.orindaben.com/home/bookindex.htm

It's all up to you whether or not you want to continue to feel this way. Only you can change it.

With Love,
Mairlyn
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Reply #8 - Oct 22nd, 2005 at 12:04pm
 
White_Feather Hi,

I find that introducing a topic on this board can be a fearful worrisome thing to do because potentially you can open yourself to a real can of worms or outright rejection.  But then on the other hand you get to start something that takes on a life of its own and have the opportunity to get PUL perks.  Feel the fear and do it anyway, is indeed the only way to go especially when it is applied to basically harmless things like learning to drive, or skydive, or even starting a thread or responding.  Did you ever think that your thoughts on feeling would turn into a discussion on psychotropics?  I wonder where its going to end up by tomorrow.

Anyhow, when you talk about manifesting sadness, as far as I’m concerned, it’s just another feeling that we play with when sitting by ourselves-and it’s a ok to do this.  IMO feelings are really a neutral.  I remember times when I would really indulge myself in the poor is me mode and wind up boring myself to death.  Then I would have to hop up and do something productive to shift gears.  Sometimes I sense that individuals are really afraid of the so called negative feelings and wind up running from them instead of embracing and following through with them till they run their course and become a sweet gem of deeper understanding of an individuals many facets.  Love as a deep feeling, of course, has the power to do much.  As I learn how to manifest it more, especially when feeling fearful or in my doldrums, it can dissipate the most judgmental “all about me” mindset.

Drugs when used as a jump-start to emotional/spiritual growth can help some people (I think?) but that has never really been my path.  As far as choosing how I feel, I recognize that I do this all the time and I suspect that you do too, even if it means going with the flow or allowing others to cause feelings in us which they don’t really have the power to do unless we give permission.  Screwy sentence, hope you get the just of what I mean. This includes using a feeling as an excuse to hurt some and forgetting that it’s not the feeling that cause the action but your intention to hurt rather than assume responsibability for the feeling and work it through. Sorry another screwy sentence.

Came across an affirmation from ACIM according to Jamposki, which I got a kick out of regarding choosing to see things differently in our minds.  “I AM NOT A ROBOT. I AM FREE!!!” 

Keep the questions coming.

Love, Jean Kiss

p.s. Notice your wonderful pic seems to capture your essence.J Kiss      
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Reply #9 - Oct 23rd, 2005 at 12:12pm
 
I suggest that you are choosing how you feel.  The thing is, the choise is coming mostly from your subconscious.  Look into your subconscious and see. For most of us, consciousness vs subconsciousness is like the mostly sunken iceberg.  Most of it is under water.  The part of the berg that can be seen is approximately one seventh of total.

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