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spiritual_seeker07
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Spirituality and Religion
Oct 10th, 2005 at 7:42pm
 
I have been trying to find a faith or religion that matches my belief system for almost 3 yrs now. I began attending church 2 months ago, but every since i've come to the conclusion there is no religion for me! I feel at the core of my being that something of great spiritual significance will happen very soon around next year. I think all this confusion is to help me to get ready for this event. Has any one else sensed this? I don't know if ascension is real but i think if there is it will happen very soon. I would love any comments.
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Reply #1 - Oct 11th, 2005 at 2:48am
 
Im not a member of any religon, but i would say buddisim was one of the best in terms of what they believe.
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Reply #2 - Oct 11th, 2005 at 4:16am
 
I'm a mixture of pantheist, gnostic and taoist.  It's not that i chose things from those sources, except maybe a bit of taoism.  It's more like what i saw/experienced ended up being similar to things wirhin those systems.

Human animals have a strong group belonging drive.  The reason for that is because it helped us to survive better during our evolution.  Humans without that trait symply did not survive as well, and so died out.  So, here we are.

I think that a person shouldn't try to fit himself into the available systems, like trying to fit themself into whatever boxes that are available at the time.  Just be yourself, follow your own path.  As humans, we have enough critical volume that group think can be slowly pushed to the sidelines.  Perhaps, if our total numbers continue to grow and we become a more orderly society, individuality will continue to increase.  Then again, maybe not.

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Reply #3 - Oct 11th, 2005 at 5:29am
 
There are universal churches and New Age churches, but you said in your last post that you don't believe a person should try to fit himself into a specific system.

The togetherness and community spirit of a temple/church can be very important to many people.  Whether you believe chapter and verse in the philosophy.


Oh, BTW, how did you get the name Mr. Satan?
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Reply #4 - Oct 11th, 2005 at 5:37am
 
Mr satan comes from dragon ballz martial arts animation.  He is a vain, kind of goofy guy who somehow manages to do some good anyway.  He is an ordinary martial artist who can't fly, dissapear or shoot fire balls like the other heros in the series. Not that i am vain or goofy, or anything like that Grin

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Reply #5 - Oct 11th, 2005 at 7:29am
 
Quote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Satan
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Reply #6 - Oct 11th, 2005 at 7:36am
 
I shouldn't have asked.
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Reply #7 - Oct 11th, 2005 at 5:18pm
 
Spiritual Seeker,

If you are seeking, be happy seeking.  How wonderful that your heart is open and you are on your path!  I am happy for you.

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Reply #8 - Oct 11th, 2005 at 7:05pm
 
I don't think you are going to find one. You are not above but definately not part of any particular belief system. I would say above except for the implied arrogance with putting it that way.

The closest misght be a Spiritualt church, if there's one near you. Aside from that, I don't know. Even Unitarian-Unirversalists might not feel comfortable with soul retreivals, projections, and the like. Won't hurt to ask though. A Unitarian minister might know about a group in your area of like-minded people, or you can ask mediums and such.

I do wish there was somewhere to go. I would be nice to share experiences and learn.

I haven't yet, but I am sorely tempted to start telling people my religion is Reality (once I get a firm grasp of it Smiley  ).

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Reply #9 - Oct 11th, 2005 at 9:56pm
 
Hi Bob,

When I lived in Oregon last year for 8 months, I went to a Unity Church. I had heard how liberal they were and went to see for myself. It was amazing. They have meditations every Sunday and no fire and brimstone preaching but everyday life discussions. We ended every Sunday with everyone holding hands and singing "Let There Be Peace On Earth". I always got teary eyed singing this.

Now I'm 100 miles away from the closest Unity so I don't go to any. But it's worth checking out IMHO. Wink

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Reply #10 - Oct 13th, 2005 at 2:17pm
 
Hi Seker-

Seems to me that the first thing is to become aware that there is somethintg spiritual in the world. Then to look at the "usual ways to do things" and then to go on and develop your own way to do them.  So, there you are, and you've created your own religion, so to say, in which your personal views are best expressed and your personal goals realized.

Unless you happent o be a compulsive joiner, you've already accomplished what you were looking for.  But if you want to hang out with others, there's lots of others who would enjoy your company, even if you don't agree 100% with them. A spiritualist group might be fun, or the formalisms of Hindu or Buddhist philosophy might tweak you more, or perhaps the "sing and dance before the Lord" idea found in many predominately black congregations (they didn't have our Puritan heritage - the morbid fear that somewhere, somehow, someone might be having fun) or perhaps the Edgar Cayce groups would interest you, or a witche's coven . Take your choice. You've completed that hard part already.

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Reply #11 - Oct 14th, 2005 at 10:34am
 
The real thing is our relationship with the self and with the others and with God.

The main thing is to be conscious of what we really are. This is our main pursuit and it happens within our selves based on our experiences with our selves and the others.

RELIGION in my opinion is a human made PROCESS to create HUMAN rules to drive us during our consciousness awakening process like that little wheels we put into a bicycle to avoid a child from falling of it. Hence its cultural geographical and time based and not perfect. So some day each one of us (each one has your own time) will feel the need of going ahead without those little wheels.

And yes I feel some thing great acting at C1 energetic I’m note sure about what it is…

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Reply #12 - Oct 14th, 2005 at 10:36am
 
Dave,

It's amazing how the way ou think fits mine....

( or my thougts fits yours  Grin)

I have just posted my opinion when a read yours and it's really similar to the way i think. some times it amazes me.
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Reply #13 - Oct 14th, 2005 at 3:02pm
 
Mairlyn,

I will look into Unity. I live now in a remote area and I don't think there are any Unity congregations here. No spiritualists groups either.

Everyone:

Aldous Huxley wrote about the Perennial Philosophy, which he described as the highest common factor at the core of the world's major religions:

At the core of the Perennial Philosophy we find four fundamental doctrines:

First: the phenomenal world of matter and of individualized consciousness-the world of things and animals and men and even gods-is the manifestation of a Divine Ground within which all partial realities have their being, and apart from which they would be nonexistent.

Second: human beings are capable not merely of knowing ABOUT the Divine Ground by inference; they can also realize its existence by a direct intuition, superior to discursive reasoning. This immediate knowledge unites the knower with that which is known.

Third: man possesses a double nature, a phenomenal ego and an external Self, which is the inner man, the spirit, the spark of divinity within the  soul. It is possible for a man, if he so desires, to identify himself with the spirit and therefore with the Divine Ground, which is of the same or like nature with the spirit.

Fourth: man's life on earth has only one end and purpose: to identify himself with his eternal Self and so to come to unitive knowledge of the Divine Ground.

He wrote this around WWII, so please forgive his lack of gender inclusive language.

I think what he says about intuition is very important. I think most people wholly underestimate their potential abilities.

I don't agree with the Fouth. I understand that we are here to learn thru a variety of experiences unique to physical existence.

Huxley notes that orthodox Christianity does not identify the Spark as being identical with the Divine Ground, rather, as something that when perfected, is merged with the Divine Ground through Grace.

With this bottom line in view, and knowing that several Acended Masters have come and gone to tell us this and more, I find it difficult to accept the idea that religions are mere human inventions, at least at their core. I think theologies are, though.

Even the most liberal groups would still, I think, be populated by many who are accepting of others but still differ in their particular understanding of wider reality. No matter where one may turn, I think, there will still have to be compomise and the occasional turning of the proverbial deaf ear.

I though I would throw this in here. Thoughts?

with Love,
Bob

Source: Bhagavad-Gita: The Song of God
Trans: Swami Prabhavananda and Christopher Isherwood. Intro  by Aldous Huxley. Signet Classics,  2002.





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