well Spitfire, I am 100% certain there are helpers and there is a purpose. but I am equally 100% certain i won't be able to share that certainty in a mere post to you. for some reason, I feel like something good is coming your way and is not too far away. meanwhile, if you want, this board is a good place for you to be until the good comes in. love, alysia

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You could prove to me OBE'S are real?

Btw, the last medium i went to see, told me to watch out for the police coming to my door, (lol), then again i think her gifts were more atuned to counting money then contacting the deceased.

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I really like that explanation. It would fit in that, we admire people who's river is choppy yet still keep paddling.

Although i would say some people get to paddle near the niagra falls, and others get a nice calm pond.

Spending your entire life on the niagra falls, still seems like a punishment, kinda like a jail system with no rehabilitation. Unless, in the grand scheme of things, 1 full life = a sentence, and it seems to be forever because of our physical nature?.

@ Laffin, yes i would like someone to show me OBE'S are real. It would meen alot, almost like a christian getting to meet jesus for 20 minutes

  I really like White Feathers post, and i agree not all is Karma or self choice--most is, but not all.

An example in the Cayce readings, there was a child who had severe health problems, and the parents got a medical reading for their child.

  Cayce's Source said that the problem was due to a Nurse's negligence, she didn't wash her hands properly before touching the baby and some germs were passed on.

  E.C.'s Source emphatically said it was not Karma, though in many readings people with diseases and in general, disease was said to be Karmically related.

  In this case it was simple cause and effect, which wasn't part of the original "soul plan". 

Suffering... Unfortunately, at least in my case, i've found suffering to be the greatest teacher and catalyst to greater growth.  And once you grow enough, your suffering eventually fades away with your ego.....

  Yet, i believe we should still have active compassion for the suffering of others, and still try to better conditions for everyone, as much as we can... You do get more detached in a way, and those who live predominantly in their emotions may think you cold, but it doesn't mean you don't care, you just recognize the necessity of suffering as a growth aid.

  There were many people that Yeshua didn't heal, though it was within his power.  Why?  Because when talking to their Higher Selves, or subconscious he found they still wanted their conditions as an aid to soul growth...

  Think of it this way, pain is like friction and friction creates heat, and heat is the condition in which energy speeds up, raising the overall vibratory "level" (words stink). 

  Sometime a soul bites off more than it can chew, and in those cases, suffering does lead to slower vibratory rates and awareness i.e. the "negative" emotions..

  When we are planning our lives, we're a lot more detached...there isn't quite the emotional intensity or attachment...so sometimes we think we can handle more than we can--once actually here..and though our guides give us suggestions and advice, they will not stop us from choosing what we really want.....

you're right on Justin, insofar as words can go...I have the feeling words just won't go very far with what we try to express here.
in reference to what Justin said, that Jesus did not heal everyone, only if they were "ready" for healing..ready to be healed...he always said "your faith has made you whole." we forgot.

thinking about Ron. my last boyfriend back in 90. he had cancer, and I just happened to be a faith healer. what a match made in.....fill in the blank.

turned out he didn't want to be healed..not even my love would suffice to make him choose life. what a blow to my ego..anyhoo..he said "my cancer cells, even though they cause me pain, they want to live too!

right. thanks a lot..now I had useless hands that were already hot and ready to heal. had to listen to the still small voice within which said I was to stow it. he loved his pain and soon identified that his pain was his pathway, or higher self challenge he offered to himself. he spoke with his inner guide all the time when he did these battles with pain which would come in the night. he fancied himself a warrior spirit as well, and this body was his battleground. far be it from me to argue a point.  we are all humans having a human experience, and those experiences are so diversified and so very interesting. love, alysia

hi. I learned how to use my hands from the Long Beach Spiritualist church back in the late 60's. we used to practice on each other during class. a nice lady said to me she "felt something" from my hands...

and one other experience with my guide DP put me into this exploration... DP says what I'm doing now is "witnessing". DP is my Christian guide. I'm not Christian though myself. ok, lol, I was suffering from an intense hangover and trying to do my job as the housekeeper of another person, who, as it turned out was also ill that day. DP came sidling up to me and asked me to claim some Jesus words as my own..something about faith, moving mountains, something about "even greater things than these will ye do" and he wanted me to test the words out in my life, so I did...through prayer. I told him if it didn't work I was not going to believe anything in the bible ever again but I would experiment with faith and believing...as he asked me to...nothing happened after all the repenting he made me do...so I was thinking this was a failed experiment when another voice, a female voice broke into my mind saying "scrub the floor....don't think a doubt thought....so I said, oh, ok, as I started scrubbing I got flooded with healing and asked for the other lady to get some of it...she did..we almost started partying, the two of us that day! ha ha! it worked!

can only conclude from this, none of us are alone without guidance. love, alysia

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Ahh Spitfire, you are aptly named...  No that is not what i meant, you can take it that way if you want though.  I've helped a fair share of people, and forgiven a fair share of very not nice people who have mistreated me--like my step father who was 6' 4" 240 lbs and a former Biker gang member.

  Its more about detachment in the hindsight, you do what you can in the moment i.e. help the man being beaten on the street, trying to save the child being run over etc.   But, if you cannot help when you have tried your best, you let it go...  Its not, not about caring, its about trust

  And i mean, more so self-detachement... This is something i am trying to learn.  If my Fiance yells at me, calls me a mean name and it is without justification...  I have a choice, do i take it personally and react back out of ego, or do i let go and forgive...If i choose the latter, in the long run i will be happy, i'm not helping her or myself if i get mad and call her names back.  If fact, anytime you get mad, or experience a negative emotion, you literally poison your body.  And you have a potentially negative effect on another through energy transmission.

  Should live in our emotions?  Emotions are like any part of the human experience... they are a tool for percieving a specific aspect of energy...  I believe we should feel, and even develope feeling but to function from raw uncontrolled emotion is oft the undoing of a person.  This is often how people hurt other people..  Emotions need to be redirected...  A negative habit can only be changed by focusing on a more positive one.

  There is no such thing as being emotionless, if you're a human...yeah you can be very disassociated, but you still have emotions...  And as Bruce has shown with his work with the 2nd Gathering group, feeling is quite important, without a sense of feeling you cannot know the full greatness of Love energy.

  But we have a Heart and a Mind, these need to be balanced one within each other; it is akin to the brain and the left and right brain functions...  Not many people would argue that too have a balance between the two is not a good thing.  When you start to balance these two seemingly opposing natures, you do start to become more detached, especially towards yourself and what happens to you.

Whatever, the human condition and the transcending of, cannot be described in a paragraph, or a whole thread...  Maybe if we consistently live a life of impersonal love, and stop judging things so much...maybe we will see more fully the many reasons why people choose suffering.  I honestly don't know why someone would choose to be burned over 90% of their body and just live in agony for the rest of their lives....