Spooky's got a funny name! you don't look Spooky, Spooky! ha ha! do u mind if I enjoy your face?
I do not mind to say, all this time I saw another face in my mind.

Spooky said:  if they were telling me what I have to do it would be just not my own life and it is, so it seems, intended, that the learning process is enforced when there is some level of independence instead of "do this, do that, we know the right things to do".
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precisely my opinion why guides do not like to give out a name for themselves or to bring themselves usually into your presence or vision. we are here to accomplish independently. although I should like to exit my life and spend a great deal of time playing and being rather lazy...but this will be later..we do have eternity, do we not? DP (my guide) wants me to come with him to the place where he does his sermons, but I always say that he should send a substitute so that we can go out dancing. love, alysia

Kyo said,  "What you choose to believe, or see, becomes your reality. And so you work with such, accordingly." and then Alycia mentioned that her efforts to rescue a man who was shot turned her into the shooter in his eyes. I see these as equivalent,  a proposition and demonstration.

Were I with my great-grandson and folding him, if he piddled on me, everybody would laugh. If my eldest (in his 40's) were to piddle on me the entire world would be outraged. But, aside from the amount of dampness due to bladder capacity, it's the same thing. Why then is there a difference? The difference is not external, but arises from within, our take of the situation.

If I believe in demons, and I've had a few nights as a hippie that strange and exotic things fluttered about my bed, then I can find them. If I believe only in angels, then I've redefined their roles and I reinterpret what they're doing. At the same time these beings, at least the ones with the ability to choose, view me in the same light. "Lookout - this is the guy who wants to evict you and send you into the Light to get burned up."  But, when I get a few of heir old friends who are already in the Light to explain that where they are is better, they change their attitude.

When I'm illegally parked, a tow truck spells doom, but when I'm stranded on a back road, it spells salvation. Or how about the poor caterpillar - The caterpillar goes forward to spin a coccoon, and thus meets the End Of The World, which is what the butterfly calls Rebirth.

So, as a beginning, attitude is part of the question, and also part of the answer.

But that doesn't make it simple. If we are all God, as deep meditation will promptly prove to you, then there's something
else happening. A brand new and totally naive soul will enter the world and retain the selfishness of babyhood into later life.  Then it "makes sense" to rob, cheat, steal and make war on small nations, because this is how a selfish soul sees things. It's part of the natural logic, and it is inevitable. A slightly older soul will then examine the situation and be extremely penitent. "God, please forgive me, I didn't know better." ("Father fogive them, for they know not what they do.")
Thus, a terrible blunder becomes a learning experience, and we do what we can to make epairs.

Of course there's a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth, and we typically generate a wonderful soap opera about the whole thing. Lots of people have trouble letting go of the soap opera.

I suggest that as a second factor, there is the inevitability of making mistakes, and of being forgiven, and of changing from selfish to altruistic.

In the perpetual soap opera, through which "I myself", the ultimate authority on everything that I know, examine and comment on "somebody", obviously a not-me, and thus alien being, I can set myself apart from that "somebody". Except that this is an imposed definition created by me. When I clap my hands, the left is clearly different from the right (until I look at the fact that both are hooked onto my shoulders, and are thus one, and one with the rest of me as well.)

So I suggest a third element, the soap opera, as opposed to deeper insight through which all opposiotes are resolved (also called sarvastarka samadhi).

Gathering all these terms together, I honestly think that the "demon" question boils down to perspective. If you act like a demon, great! You can be a demon. Or an angel.  Or whatever. However, that is a local fact, not an ultimate truth. This was once called the Fallacy of Misplaced Concreteness". 

Thus, Kyo, I agree with you, yet I disagree, because I think the ultimate factor in this question is mistaking the locally convenient and relatively valid for the ultimately true.

Alycia was able to shrug off the label of shooter by going to a higher level of awareness. But, when we mix levels of awareness, we get some very strange results that can never be resolved any more than alligators and liverwurst - which yield a croc of baloney.

dave

Here is an fascinating (well, it was to me, anyway) theory as to what "demons"
may actually be...
Go to:

http://www.parascience.org/hereweare.htm

And read the last essay in the series titled "Here We All Are?" titled "Energy and the Human Body."
Towards the end of the page, Dolgorukii (the author) gives a cogent explanation for what "demons" may actually be (hint: it's NOT just a load of B.S.)...

B-man

Rob said: So this is unusual then, knowing all this?
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it's not unusual in this place, but I wouldn't announce in a public mall that you know your guides, and their names and other lives, etc.. I don't think the general public is quite ready yet for this wonderful unusualness on a mass scale, maybe sooner than we think though...talking about a shift in consciousness...love, alysia

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Hi Recoverer,

 Yep, i pretty much agree with the above.  You betcha the friendly neighboors are more evolved than the ones we may have a war with!  

 But, consider this...these friendly and super spiritually evolved neighboors of ours, have been involved with us for a very long "time".   Some have been like friendly but impersonal guardians..  So comparing it to a parent who is watching its kids grow, eventually the child isn't coddled so much anymore cause the parent knows that its important for them to learn stuff on their own...and the now grown child, just doesn't need as much help....

 Well, we've had our hands held for quite awhile and we are getting to the point of being on our own...for the most part.  Rosie said that we would get some technology help, and it sounds like they may advise us, but it also sounds like we are going to have to take care of the problem pretty much by ourselves--especially since we attracted it in the first place by our collective negative vibrations.

 My fairly psychic Aquarian Twin-Soul/Fiance had quite the vivid dream about this period...and though she is a pretty evolved future personality, she had some real intense fear when the crap hit the fans...  The future I in her dream, apparently was still involved with the Earth, but i came in from another system as an E.T. and i helped future Becky out at a critical moment during the peak of the war.

 This Golden Age that is developing is not going to be handed to us on a golden platter...  Very little is set in stone, and unless we who came into the Earth to help facilitate this transition, don't get our collective butts into gear, then this momentous opportunity may pass us by.  There are many variables...

 But, i'm fairly optimisic overall, and i am not in the slightest bit worried about this probable future war.  Fear is the most pointless emotion and energy there is.

Peace

Alysia,

I will also add that Bruce isn't exactly hiding in a closet,  and neither did Robert Monroe. Not that I am comparing myself to them, but my life purpose is to follow in their footsteps, abeit with a different emphasis. They have alread kicked down the door, as have many others, including you just by being here and sharing your experiences.

with Love,
Bob

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A little off topic maybe:

Can you give me an example of “Good side” in a war? I’ve been spending years of my live trying to find such thing and it seems that you got it. Can you explain how does it work for you? I’ve no idea.

Here's a paragraph that appear's in Rosalind McKnight's book (page 245). These words come from a spirit she communicated with.

"There are souls living in the darkness of their own vibrations, and because of a hunger and need for light nourishment, they try to penetrate breaks in the energy of other unbalanced souls. The lowest vibration of the soul in the earth body will attract to itself the entity that is earthbound. Like attracts like because of the similarities of the needs of both souls, in the body and out. It is very important while in the earth level to keep the energies balanced."

Here's a paragraph that relates to recoveries (pg. 247):
"Many souls work unconsciously on different levels during their sleep state. These traveling sleep helpers work with souls in the body and out, for healing and regeneration. These are souls who work consciously with the earthbound souls: there are also those who are not aware that they work with such souls during their sleeping state."