Ok folks,

With all this dark talk of demons, and division theory its time to put things straight.  The most experienced in the field of consciousness and spirit know by experience. 

For those who have had a NDE, they know, what they know.  One can debate or rationalize or divide the soul and spirit in thought, but that doesn't change that those with experience in astral travel, or Monroe's focus levels, or NDE know what they know through directly experiencing an altered state of being.

I believe that much of the debate on this board, and the dark side talk comes from those who, like me enjoy using our rational minds to figure things out.  Trouble is, this rational brain is very different than the firsthand experience that a few have had on this board.

I am reminded of, I believe it was a James Bond movie or book (if my memory is not exact, please forgive me all you Bond fans) - Bond is a noted wine Connesiur - and the villain tastes the wine at a formal occasion and says "ah Mouton Rothchild 1954.." or some such nonsense.  He looks smug, because he has matched Bond in his knowledge of wine.  Bond looks at him and raises an eyebrow.  "Oh really?"  He asks.  The villain rethinks things, well, it may have been another vintage.

After a time, Bond informs him that he was correct initially.  "I knew I was right!" the villain said.  "No,' Bond corrected.  "You thought you might be right.  You were not certain." 

I believe that certain knowledge of consciousness and the soul is only obtained by these direct experiences.  Otherwise, like our poor friend Chumley, and the villain in Bond, we only think we know, we are not sure.  I support all investigations into theories.  But bring on the direct experiences.


Matthew

I like this thread. I've been taking the temperature of this forum for awhile and it appears we just grew out of something by leaps and bounds and I truly enjoy the new expressions I'm encountering here and there. I feel so good lately, I can't express it except to say I feel gratitude for my life, and hope I don't get too emotional here! I've never trusted my logic either, so there you go. I suppose logic is ok, as long it doesn't tell me it's logical to jump off a cliff...

love and light and have a day now, alysia

I go about living day-by-day with the concept of not knowing anything, because I am so open minded I never suggest my opinions in certain debates, arguments, conversations, etc.. , I try to be as humble as possible (which is extremely joy able for me), however I know only what I know.. I consider myself to be 'wise' because of my growing up background, I was raised as a well rounded individual, more open-minded that any other person I have came into contact to this date.. however I'm not sure if you can judge ones well open-mindedness , because then again no one has the right to judge one another but GOD himself..

First hand experiences with the paranormal and the after-life are life changing experiences, and nobody not even skeptics themselves can degrade what you personally 'first-hand' experienced...

hey i know nothing, but what i do know is what i have experienced.. thats just my two cents on this wonderful thread...

Much good energy to all