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The Emerald Tablet--your thoughts?
Sep 24th, 2005 at 1:28pm
 
I am interested in any of your thoughts on this quotation from The Emerald Tablet.  I assume that someone here may have studied it:

In truth, without deceit, certain, and most veritable.


That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above,  and that which is Above corresponds to that which is Below, to accomplish the miracles of the One Thing. 


And just as all things have come from this One thing, through the meditation of One Mind, so do all created things originate from this One Thing, through Transformation.


Its father is the Sun; its mother the moon. 


The Wind carries it in its belly; its nurse is the Earth. 


It is the origin of All, the consecration of the Universe.


Its inherent Strength is perfected, if it is turned into Earth.


Separate the Earth from Fire, the Subtle from the Gross, gently and with great Ingenuity. 


It rises from Earth to heaven and descends again to Earth, thereby combining within Itself the powers of both the Above and the Below.


Thus will you obtain the Glory of the Whole Universe.  All Obscurity will be clear to you.  This is the greatest Force of all powers, because it overcomes every Subtle thing and penetrates every Solid thing.


In this way was the Universe created.  From this come many wondrous Applications, because this is the Pattern.


Therefore am I called Thrice Greatest Hermes, having all three parts of the wisdom of the Whole Universe.  Herein have I completely explained the Operation of the Sun.
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Re: The Emerald Tablet--your thoughts?
Reply #1 - Sep 24th, 2005 at 2:47pm
 
Hi Blink I never read anything about the Emerald Tablet, is that a book? but I can add a few thoughts.
it is said that the planets are actual beings, has anyone wondered about this?

just thinking outloud. I lived in the Seattle area for 4 years then found out I was affected by not enough sun..ye gads, when the sun broke thru the clouds for 10 minutes I ran outside to absorb it, thinking what was I doing? ..seems we are being showered organically with "light". and the light could be more than we think it is, it has an intelligence aspect. it could be like a radiation from the sun being, a spiritual energy too, as the earth is a reflection of what is in the heavens.

reading this made me think of vital energy. life force...cosmic stuff...what can grow without the sun? what can become enlightened without the light? and what can be born while it rests within the darkness?

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Reply #2 - Sep 24th, 2005 at 3:08pm
 
http://altreligion.about.com/library/weekly/aa121302a.htm

It seems to be a fragment of ancient text, the origin of which no one seems to be able to identify for sure.  Above is a link to some information about it.  There appear to be quite a few translations through the centuries.  Initially it reminded me of the meditation in Bruce's cd which brings energy from below and from above.   From reading on the web there appear to be numerous layers of meaning, speaking to the physical and spiritual.  I would assume that some among us have looked at it.  I thought it would be interesting to share here.

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Reply #3 - Sep 24th, 2005 at 3:56pm
 
Blink ,many people have put there interpretation onto the tablets, but I 'm sure you will find,that these interpretations are based only on the perspective of the soul.

It is written so each at there own level can gain a corresponding knowledge.It is as it is,here are some  extracts .

                    The keys of magic

Hark ye o man, to the wisdom of magic.
Hark the knowledge of powers forgotten.
Long,ago in the days of the first man,warfare began between darkness and light.
Man ,then as now,
Were filled with both darkness and light,
and while in some darkness hell sway,
in others light filled the soul.

Aye,age old in this warfare,
the eternal struggle between darkness and light,
fiercely is it fought all through the ages,
using strange powers hidden form man.

Adepts has there been filled with blackness,
Struggling always against the light,
but others there are who, filled with the brightness,
have ever conquered the darkness of the night,
Where e'er ye may be in all ages and plane,
surely,ye shall know of the battle with night.
Long ages ago,
The suns of the morning,
descended, found the world filled with night,
there in that past began the struggle,
the age old battle between darkness and light.

Many in the time were so filled with the darkness,
that only feebly flamed the light on the night.

Some they were, masters of the darkness, who sought to fill all with their darkness,
sought to draw others into there night
Fiercely withstood they, the masters of brightness,
fiercely fought they from the darkness of the night,sought ever to tighten the fetters,
the chains that bind men to the darkness of the night.
Used they always the dark magic,
brought into men by the power of darkness,
magic that enshrouded mans soul with darkness.

this is just a small peace from the tablets you can find then in full @

http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald6.html

As for the saying ,as above so is below,
I beleive this to mean that as all is created programed within the astral first ,that is ofcause what is means.

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Reply #4 - Sep 25th, 2005 at 8:40am
 
Thank you so much Lights and Alysia. 

An interesting history of this document:

http://www.alchemylab.com/hyper_history.htm

I don't recall seeing mention of it in the recent movie "Alexander"....

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Reply #5 - Sep 25th, 2005 at 10:16am
 
Well blink yes, very interesting, where did this come from and what does it mean? or rather, what does it mean for US? I think each age must interpret spiritual information anew, because the conditions change and so you have to sapply the practice to each age. So the question becomes, what does that mean for us?

That said, it is so tempting to try to look at this stuff through modern eyes and apply modern thinking to the documents them selves.  But I have read that a couple of thousand years ago or so, it was the custom to sign your document "Hermes Trismegistus" if you were from that school of thought. Some scholars feel there was not just one person, but many. But we don't do that today. So we have to be careful about applying current-day thinking to these old documents because there are probably other things that were done differently.

But looking at the content of the thirteen lines. It certainly sounds like an alchemical line of thought. And haven't the Wiccans incorporated that into their thought? or do the Wiccans predate alchemical thought? I can't remember exactly what I've read here. But that line on the tablets:

That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above,  and that which is Above corresponds to that which is Below, to accomplish the miracles of the One Thing.

shows up in part in what we call the Lord's prayer:

Our Father which art in Heaven, Hallowed be Thy Name
Thy Kingdom come
Thy will be done
On earth as it is in Heaven


As above, so below.

So if we were scholars we could get into a heated discussion about the differences in nuance of meaning or the possible original source of this line of thought.

I've heard it claimed that there were Wiccans at the time of the historical Jesus so I'm not sure who took the idea from the other.  But when people like Joseph Campbell talk about this sort of thing (and I don't think he wrote about this particular thing, but others have, because Jesus plus 12 equals 13, and that is the number in a coven or something like that, which is certainly a good starting point for speculation!) anyway, what historians do is try to trace the history of ideas and see how they worked through different cultures and where they originated.

Since the Emerald Tablet is only 13 lines, I don't quite understand where the larger tablets come from and I see this as a conflict of information.

We can get "proof" from 3 sources....
We can take things on authority from someone we deem special
or
we can ask for some "objective" proof (historians have to examine the document and interpret it within the framework of accepted methods and make arguments that conform to certain standards)
or
there is what I call personal proof. Actually this can be the most striking. If you don't believe in life after death and then you get injured and have an NDE, what more personal proof do you need to then believe in afterlife? So I might not believe this person's experience but I think I can't say that they are wrong because ,well, what else do we really have in life other than personal experiences?

There is a gray area in all this, where it is fun to speculate on what happened but we don't really know. But being human we usually assign meaning to things we may not really understand. Was Thoth real physically or was Thoth an archetype?

I have a certain way of interacting wit the world. I grew up in the US  in this era and have done this and that and it has given me a particular kind of C1 conciousness. It is fun to me to sometimes wonder if I could go back in time, would the C1 conciousness feel different or the same? And I wonder if whatever we are, we worked very hard over the centuries to develop this kind of C1 conciousness, but now we question it. But the people writing whenever these works were produced didn't know about the scientific method because it hadn't been developed yet. They must have had a very different method of proof for things. So if I were to ask "where did you get this tablet?" would they say, oh joe-isis carved it up for me, or would they say, beings from the sky gave this to me (meaning the info).

Anyway, you can go on and on about this sort of thing, when what I really want to know is, do the miracles of the one thing include telling me where to get the money to pay my mortgage next year and what do I do "above" to make sure that happens "below"?

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Reply #6 - Sep 25th, 2005 at 5:11pm
 
Lucy, by the time your mortgage is due, we could end up all of us not having to worry about that....instead we might be living out in the natural world and have to begin divising new shelters..hopefully in a cooperative effort. not making predictions...not by a longshot..I don't do those. just thinking of all the possibiblities and what would matter to me personally, as well as from a practical standpoint should the mortgage not have to be paid because it was lying there in sticks at my feet... sorry, I think about things like this all the time, but only from the standpoint of how I would deal with it spiritually, emotionally, and physically, and what I could do or whether I would choose to stay here within those dire circumstances...I decided I would stick around and help rebuild. always thought it would be fun to live in a tent anyway Grin well, for a short while that is!
That was interesting about the Hermes signature, that shows a certain group mentality. something to think about..it certainly seems to be all about the individual mentality these days.
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Reply #7 - Sep 26th, 2005 at 1:32pm
 
Very very interesting link, LightROn,

http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html

I spent most of Sunday reading all these tablets.  There are many repetitive stanzas (it reads to me like a poem or song) but I am convinced that whoever wrote this was involved in OBE's of some kind.  There are specific descriptions in the document on how to travel astrally as well as other things which I found very interesting.  It was fascinating to me to read descriptions of such activity from such an old source. 

Obviously people have been doing the kinds of activity described on this very site for a very very long time.  I find all kinds of parallels there with Bruce Moen's writings.  After reading Moen and Monroe the translation makes all kinds of sense that I'm sure would have sounded like nonsense to me before.

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Reply #8 - Sep 26th, 2005 at 1:49pm
 
Lucy,

There is more to my initial fragment on this site:

http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html

The Emerald Tablets of Thoth are much more detailed.  It's very strange and interesting reading for me personally after reading Moen, Monroe and trying a few retrievals.

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Reply #9 - Sep 26th, 2005 at 4:34pm
 
Blink ,its fascination reading ,there is indeed a war being wadged on this planet and we here are key players.

Before I new this to be true, I would have said that the guy, Thoth, was a little over the top with all the darkness and light stuff. But I know it to be true now,we are at present still fighting the fight, I'm sure the more souls who awaken the greater our ability to win will be, this is why there has been such fear programed into us over the astral, for as we awaken we can then face and overcome that which is so prevalent here.

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