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Sep 19th, 2005 at 8:29pm
 
1/23/04 we are streams of consciousness; higher consciousness is a stream, the same, of intermittent consciousness, it is not broken, it is time interspersed, the illusion is thus presented that there be a separation between higher/lower consciousness.

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this way, you see, you are connected, but it appears you are disconnected because we are existent within a time/space continuum which is our box right now. think outside the box whenever u get the opportunity. love, alysia
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Reply #1 - Sep 19th, 2005 at 8:59pm
 
Right on, Alysia!

I highly recommend a book called "The Field," mentioned briefly on the board in a previous post.  I just finished reading it, and basically it addresses these issues in a scientific way.  I was amazed at how many quality scientific studies done at Princeton, and other locations were cited here.  The author, a journalist documents rigorous studies on consciousness, intent, and connectedness and ties them together nicely.

In essence, our consciousness exists outside space and time.  Given this concept, experiments were designed to see if consciousness could alter events in the past or future.  A random number generator was used to basically give a "coin toss" recorded on a tape device.  But it was sealed and not read.  Theoretically, if there were 10,000 coin tosses, the number of heads and tails should average out statistically close to 50/50. 

Volunteers were then asked to try to influence the outcome of the readings of the tape.  The results were fascinating.  If the tape were read once, the results could not be influenced.  If it had been sealed, and the volunteer tried to influence the heads or tails outcome, a small but statistically significant effect was seen.  This could only have happened if the volunteer had an effect on the past.  When a control random tape was sealed and not influenced, it always followed a 50/50 pattern. 

The implication, is that we live in C1 but that past, present and future are all there simultaneously.  If a tree falls in a forest, and nobody hears it, does it make a noise?   Wink  I could never understand new age concepts and Jane Roberts Seth talking of altering our past, to shape our reality - that seemed silly to me.  Now, it all makes sense. 

The implications are also that if we concentrate our intent on something in the past or future, we may alter our present.  For example, a cancer may be diagnosed at a crucial time, when saving the person is still possible.  Or if the person is to get chemotherapy, and intent is focused on the future, the body also may respond in a healing way.  Visualization therapy, usually centers in the present time, but this also may respond to imagery geared toward the past or future.

In "The Field," the separation of time from consciousness is further illustrated by studies of remote viewing.  Remote viewers such as Ingo Swann were asked to describe a target person.  Then they were asked to describe that target in different times.  Remarkably, remote viewing appeared independent of time.  In one instance, a viewer described a known facility, but insisted that there were four machines present which he described in detail that were not present.  On reviewing a history of that location, these machines had been there fifty years before the viewing (and were no longer there).

All of this tells me that consciousness is not based in C1 space time.  When we meditate, change the focus of our consciousness, we have access to our past, present and future.  It is an amazing and difficult concept.

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Reply #2 - Sep 19th, 2005 at 9:22pm
 
Mathew said: (he is taking me away from my TV Grin)

All of this tells me that consciousness is not based in C1 space time.  When we meditate, change the focus of our consciousness, we have access to our past, present and future.  It is an amazing and difficult concept.
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yes, it is difficult. since 2000 year of, I've been introduced to this concept slowly through retrievals where the future area gets mixed up with the retrieval, as part of my personal future would be exposed to me. so I'm glad to see that science is studying consciousness right along with my personal study.
most interestingly, retrieving a child self of mine seemed to actually change my present and my future as well, by changing my perceptions of the very child I had retrieved who existed in the past.
when I changed my perceptions my heart grew lighter and I could smile more often to see there was another way to look at it.

took a long while though to accept I could see my own future within tiny segments at first...for I no longer saw my awareness as being contained within a location of the brain waves, but was visualizing that I had antannae Cheesy, it's hard to say how it began, the expansion of the mind...it seemed just to happen..like spontaneous, but I know there are causes for it be set in motion..I do remember saying to guides or just talking to myself, not sure...Do Not show me the future Cheesy next thing I know I begin to see it anyway Cheesy best thing that ever happened to me, although just tiny things at first. love your posts Mathew.  Wink alysia
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Reply #3 - Sep 22nd, 2005 at 9:21pm
 
Hi Alysia.Your book must be very good.I cant wait to Get it.When will it be ready. Love George
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Reply #4 - Sep 22nd, 2005 at 9:24pm
 
I just finished it George and it feels good to complete it! I have asked Bruce if he would do my introduction when he returns from Poland. I hope it's good enough that he will do that.
oh I was given a message that the book was due back to the library Feb 9th.  the guides forgot to tell me what year! ha ha! I thought they meant this year! must have meant 2006. love, alysia
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Reply #5 - Sep 23rd, 2005 at 11:17am
 
Hi people,
I have noticed I have very good access to biographic memories while in my way of meditating. Of course it's enlightened to see your past for solving problems of the now, just like psychoanalytics would handle it. But the suggestion that the past is actually changeable is indeed a new powerful perspective and worth to try out I think.
(btw, Kyo shared similar infos, but I often need to be reminded of sth more than once before it sinks into my mind)
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Reply #6 - Sep 23rd, 2005 at 11:38am
 
spooky2

I sometimes experience biographic memories while meditating too. I experience them for resolution purposes. Sometimes I'll be meditating on a dream, and this brings up related biographic memories. I've also found that while recalling a dream, I can start working on the dream in an interactive way, and the feeling when I do this is just as real as when I had the initial dream. I haven't done this much though.

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Hi people,
I have noticed I have very good access to biographic memories while in my way of meditating. Of course it's enlightened to see your past for solving problems of the now, just like psychoanalytics would handle it. But the suggestion that the past is actually changeable is indeed a new powerful perspective and worth to try out I think.
(btw, Kyo shared similar infos, but I often need to be reminded of sth more than once before it sinks into my mind)
Bye, Spooky

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Reply #7 - Sep 23rd, 2005 at 3:52pm
 
I learn a new term today through Spooky, "biographic memory." if this means to research your personal biography then that is what I did in my book, only I called it self retrievals.
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Reply #8 - Sep 23rd, 2005 at 5:14pm
 
Well yes Alysia, hee hee, I was just struggeling with words, I said "biographic memory" for I didn't want to say something like "My recent-now-life-C1 occurances-past -but not past life- memories".
Actually, if you look at self-retrievals aren't there 2 ways to see it possible? The one that you feel not complete cause a part of you is not well attached/gone/overseen and you have to reunite with it and the other view where you change your past so you make yourself feel complete by undoing some hurts in the past? It's maybe just two ways to see the same thing.
Recoverer, the re-dreaming of dreams is interesting! How often I had dreams and when I woke up I said to myself "Why you were so stupid in this dream?". Re-dreaming or in other word change/variate dreams in meditation could be an alternative to lucid dreaming in concern to change the "story" of it (maybe not to experience the vividness of a lucid dream).
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Reply #9 - Sep 23rd, 2005 at 6:09pm
 
Spooky said:t's maybe just two ways to see the same thing.
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yes but it appears that the process is a little different and the end result waits within time. for instance in the self retrieval is done with images in the mind as well as some short conversations, like to the child, "do you want to go somewhere more fun?" then you get to pondering on the retrieval...this is part of the process to integrate the child's perceptions....you begin to see another viewpoint on it, to change the child's perceptions into the larger view of the adult self, this involves dealing with the hurt inside that you didn't feel with the original retrieval images. so the next time you revisit the past, it has been changed. there is now no more pain there or confusion. the past is no longer the same past.
blessings Spooky!
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