Vicky said:   Thoughts are energy that can move extremely fast.
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hi Vicky! this is a great post, at least I see it that way. I was even talking to you in my head this morning! lol. when I do that, it's very real for me, to feel my connections to others this way. I'd like to take your post line by line and exchange my ideas:
here what you say about thoughts are energy, is true, they do move faster than they do here, within physicality, we are a slowed down vibratory rate. on the other side, we received what Monroe termed "rotes". a compiliation of thoughts, all condensed and vibrating at a different speed...that's why sometimes, it seems to be "extremely fast."
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Vicky continues:
 When we think in our heads we slow down our thoughts and put them into feelings, pictures, and words in our head.
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Me:
exactly what I already said above, that we are thinking more slowly in C1. this is one reason we are given symbols, as a picture can indeed say a thousand words, and it is up to us to decipher the image, or even the feeling which is just as important as an image, or as receiving sentence structure is.
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Vicky said:
 So when we want to pose a question or wonder about something, and we try to put it into words, we are slowing down the process.
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Me: to my pov Vicky is trying to understand the two vibratory rates of thought within physical and non/physical areas..how it works..the act of putting a question into words is actually starting to connect itself to the answer..but the act of creating the question is no less important than the receiving of the answer, which comes in image, words, or feelings. I base this on my personal believe system "no question is there that does not have an answer" as they are parts of the same thing.
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Vicky said:
 In actuality, the very inkling of a moment that you began to think about your thoughts, that energy has already formed and "flown away", and the work you put into it by wording it is not actually necessary
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well, I kind of disagree that wording is not necessary, as I have a dead preacher in my disc, and he would always tell me that "I must learn to speak the word."
but I think that you will be able to clarify this statement that you are working on, because it is so easy for us here to misinterpret what is said.
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Vicky said:

(unless it helps you to remember better).
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ok, ha ha! indeed. is a good thing to remind myself every chance or I would forget my head when going out the door! it is clarified.
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Vicky said:

 But what I'm saying is, when we "send out" these thoughts and questions, we don't realize that the answer will come back and when it does it will be very fast as well, especially if you are truely "connected" as you get when meditating.
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Me:  we forget. we treat and move our feet. forgetting is so easy here. we release the thought also. we forget perhaps, we have even asked for what we have asked to know. we get a surprise! this is fun. also Vicky talks about connecting as in an altered state: when u ask for something, an answer, if works better if u are feeling connected to the answer, that you feel you can be receiving it soon...then I release, after I "feel" I should. some call this faith. you just know what u know. it is a very very nice feeling. it's like PUL. you just know.
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Vicky said:
 The answers coming in as pictures is the fastest way for the information to get relayed to your subconscious mind.
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exactly...we said this above. it's faster, what we need to do is deal with the interpretor part of the brain then, so that we interpret correctly. we are going to interpret through our own personal belief systems...so if we have two belief systems in conflict, one with the other, we need to work on ourselves, to be able to interpret correctly. this is where we might experience a crash or two.
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Vicky said:
 It is the conscious mind that takes information and translates into words that we can then make sense out of.  That is a process that takes time because it is conscious effort on our part, that slowing-down process.
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this is important: that slowing down process is relative. for instance, I have taken as much as 3 years to assimilate one experience and interpret it correctly. and even so, I find I am continually reassessing my interpretation..so go figure! I hope to speed up my assimilation process!
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 That's why I say just being reflective will bring out the info into words for you.  It is not lost.  You may have not even realized you had certain thoughts before the pictures started coming, then you started really thinking it out.  It seems like a backward process almost.
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I have also noticed within obes everything looks backwards..then also civilization also looks backwards in regards to spiritual values...it's like we turned ourselves inside out in order to become physical beings..
here Vicky tells us to be reflective..like a mirror...reflect what you are feeling onto the mirror of your mind...those certain thoughts that you had way back when, they are revealed on the mirror of the mind within reflection. C1 is limited to a slower vibratory rate, a certain focusing of awareness...to do these explorations we discuss is to widen our awareness and focus on new ideas of exploring the human, the total human which also contains your spirit, which was from the beginning. you are a spirit having a physical life. not a physical being wondering if you have a spirit. thats why it seems backwards. when most of us realize our greater selves the world starts changing for the better..exiting, isn't it? love you all, love talking here. alysia

In response to Ryan's question...

I don't know how many guides we have.  They seem to each have their own characteristics and purposes in helping us.  Maybe they just pop up when their need arises.

Hey Alysia and Vicky,

what you said sounds familiar! When I was once in F27 exploring some centers the beings there came over with so much stuff and I was translating as good as I could and repeat it into words (which is my method to take it with me to write it down later but I have to wonder if that is needed if it's possible to access the rote while writing after the actual meeting) that I thought my brain must start to smoke the next second. Felt like after an important test back in school, pressure on the head. And there was really much to write down, much too much if you compare it with a normal C1 conversation. I had the impression that in the information I got was included the message, that it is not the "reality" but in a form which comes as close to it as possible due to my capacity of understanding.

Vicky wrote:
>>>If all that we experience is in our subconscious, that doesn't do us much good if we can't still bring it to the conscious level.<<<
Today I imagined meeting a person whom I don't met physically, but had contact via mail. I knew he is on a spiritual journey but a different way than mine. So I met him in my mind:
He, or a part of him, said: "Oh, hi, you do this things? Lot of practicing?"  I: "Well...Can you do this too? I mean, will you remember for example this meeting?"  He: "No. Not in conscious awareness. But it is not needed. Even if I am not aware of it, it has consequences in the physical life, my subconscious is leading me, that's the right way for me!"  I: "Hmm, I need the conscious memory cause life would be too boring and meaningless to me without this stuff."
You know, this is probably an expression of the variety of living the life and spiritual ways (I think).

Bye, spooky

yes, was just thinking Spooky, recoverer and Vicky and everybody, about something interesting. if I want to remember a dream, or a PE meeting, or just about any memory or experience, I work with the emotion that was there, and somehow, by feeling it again, the same feeling it's like unrolling a rote...now if I want to put it into words, that seems to require a brain function. i do not think we take our brains with us out there all the more reason to develop another way of sensing.
love, alysia