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Reply #15 - Sep 9th, 2005 at 2:34pm
 
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Even though I can't say for certain what God is, I certainly don't mean an old man in the sky (How about an old woman?  ).

How about what God really is, a perfectly balanced masculine and feminine energy.  Roll Eyes

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Reply #16 - Sep 9th, 2005 at 4:09pm
 
a friend of mine (Lyn in Australia) she calls it the "All Pervading Intelligence."

I liked her name. but I call it Undistorted Love Energy.

hee. some call it Elvis Presley.

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Reply #17 - Sep 9th, 2005 at 6:09pm
 
All of you have such wonderful thoughts to bring to this topic. 

If God is a "Universe" then all of the galaxies, stars, black holes, particles of dust, the vacuum itself are part of God.  The Universe may be forever expanding or contracting like the breath of a living being. 

It is one and it is many.  Each particle, each space between the particles has its existence.  The "Universe" is miraculous and so is our existence.  When we view the wonder of our existence in the larger context, we are no longer afraid and we feel only awe. 

Does it matter if my grain of dust is removed from the spirals of beauty created by our collective existence?  Perhaps not. 

But perhaps my existence is the eye which can behold the beauty of the spiral.  Who would destroy their own eye, and would they not wipe the tear from their own eye? And would they not value beyond all the stars a tear of joy?

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Reply #18 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 2:04am
 
I have a question on my mind though that buggs me and i hate thinking about it, no one has the answer but still doesn't stop me! lol

Where does it all come from. It can't of just been there. The world i can accept it was created as a learning platform?? The afterlife then, where did it come from, how did it get there. If that was created as learning on like college after school lol to the highest thing, well where did the highest thing come from?? Where did the person come from whos in it?

Whats th epoint of all this, what if we had nothing, i can't even start to comprehend that, nothing at all, not even space to hold life, just nothing, well not even nothing because nothing is something.

Mianly where did it come from and how did it all start. I would love to know the answer but don't see how it is possible....every though we are living it.

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Reply #19 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 7:18am
 
Dear Ryan,
I had exactly the same question in my mind for years. I don't think we could know for sure the answer to that. But I do belive there must have been a point many zillions years ago when there was nothing but God has always existed therefore he was the creator of everything. This is how science theories are crashed because the world and the galaxies can't go through evolution unless God created them in the beggining of everything.
God started everything out of Love, he is the source of everything here and in the afterlife and to try to understand how God created everything or what was there when there was nothing but God is to bite more than we can chew. Probably everything will become more clear as we become more enlighten and remember more of being a part of God. 
Well this is what I think, anyway but it would be so fantastic to hear what everyone else have got to say about the matter.
Thank you so much for bringing this up, Ryan

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Reply #20 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 7:47am
 
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But I do belive there must have been a point many zillions years ago when there was nothing but God has always existed therefore he was the creator of everything.


Hey yeah that make sense but it still goes round and round which is the annoying part! lol So if God exisited where? he must of exsisted somewhere, somehow, even a non-physical plane is something. But then where did "god" come from in the first place....what was before that!? lol

I'm going to stopnow i can really wind me self up over this sorta stuff lmao! Be great to hear everyones views on this though i do agree.

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Reply #21 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 9:38am
 
Dear Ryan,
Don't get so annoyed, It's ok not to understand God sometimes. you just need to trust Him/Her, and one day you and I will understand everything.
God did not come from anywhere. He/She has always been. To try and understand anymore than that is like expecting a baby to do the job of a rocket scientist. We still have so much to learn. So I say don't worry about not understanding just accept it as part of God's plan and just be patient because every rocket scientist was once a baby...

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Reply #22 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 10:51am
 
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Dear Ryan,
I had exactly the same question in my mind for years. I don't think we could know for sure the answer to that. But I do belive there must have been a point many zillions years ago when there was nothing but God has always existed therefore he was the creator of everything. This is how science theories are crashed because the world and the galaxies can't go through evolution unless God created them in the beggining of everything.
God started everything out of Love, he is the source of everything here and in the afterlife and to try to understand how God created everything or what was there when there was nothing but God is to bite more than we can chew. Probably everything will become more clear as we become more enlighten and remember more of being a part of God.  
Well this is what I think, anyway but it would be so fantastic to hear what everyone else have got to say about the matter.
Thank you so much for bringing this up, Ryan

Peace, Love and Light.

Sandra.



And this is the part of this discussion that leaves me in awe....

None of this makes any sense, but in turn does make sense if we were able to think that far outside of the box...

The idea that Evolution exists without God makes absolutely no sense, yet people are driven to try and give science credit without there being a God, but science cannot even prove it's own existence...lol.

The idea that God created everything makes sense, but WHY does not in the minds of those who go through life not knowing why they have to or what it means.

In the end, I think this all makes sense or will make sense, but the problem with people like "us" is that we are trying to make sense of our journies while we are experiencing it, which to some degree makes it seem impossible, but to me makes the idea of there NOT being a God improbable!!
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Reply #23 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 11:15am
 
The real problem is:  how do you (can you?) define God?

Various groupings claim they have the complete explanation, but never offer proof - apart from a postulated very early history of a few tribes - also without proof.

Looking for origins of everything is like chasing  'Ignus Fatus', the will-o'- the-wisp, which disappears just as it seems to be within reach.

Perhaps 'origins' may be Spiritual and not physical.

There must be a Source - but beyond this, all is a question mark, which might require still further  elevation of human abilities before any consensus can be agreed?

An interesting journey, nevertheless.
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Reply #24 - Sep 10th, 2005 at 1:06pm
 
Hiorta speaks well; he said: There must be a Source - but beyond this, all is a question mark, which might require still further  elevation of human abilities before any consensus can be agreed?
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would like to mention here my own journey how i ended up on this forum flapping my lips endlessly Grin I do get a kick out of it anyway. I was on another forum where ACIM students would hang. they were all students, not yet teachers, although the Course said we are all students and all teachers at the same time. I needed something more, so I found this place and read this article  http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/vision.html  This site, right here.

after reading the above vision it resonated with me that this vision might lead me one step above what ACIM had taught me. and it did lead me on my own journey. the beginning of knowledge, of spiritual knowledge is to find out who you are and what you are my opinion. the why of it comes later as someone already said. you are all smart people or you wouldn't be here. these kind of talks we do is as good as it gets, believe me, and I've been around the block a few times Cheesy  I soon realized might take a whole life time, might take a trillion lifetimes to find out who, what and why. is good reason not to be annoyed or get impatient; got to walk before you fly.
I'm going to re-read the above article because I may have missed something...truth is my life is like that..it's fall and I've been running out my back door to see if I missed summer..is it gone already? did I notice it when it was here? is reason I have to re-read books & people, and really, books are people.
after I re-read that article that sucked me into this forum 'bout 4 or 5 yrs ago, I feel myself getting fired up to post again on this subject Grin  do u all think maybe the point of existence is self expression? Grin I mean amongst others...not on a desert island Grin
anyway, my way of saying thanks for all your light! for being here...love, alysia
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Reply #25 - Sep 12th, 2005 at 5:45am
 
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The real problem is:  how do you (can you?) define God?

Much food for thought here...

Peace, Love and Light.

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