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Re: Reincarnation,of what I saw
Reply #30 - Aug 31st, 2005 at 5:48am
 
In responce to my question to Don: "How did you feel when you gave the above responce?"

Don said:

I felt a sense of release from my horror at the gullibility manifested on this site that has driven many away.
I feel unclean at the thought that some might take my silence as an endorsement of such New Age kookery. 
I feel an obligation to give a voice to those few who really acknowledge the elusiveness and complexity of the itruth about the afterlife. 


Interesting responce and whenever I feel paticularly confused or bothered
about something, I sometimes repeat the 23 psalm as I did above. Thanks for answereing.

May the force be with you Grin Jean
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Reply #31 - Aug 31st, 2005 at 6:36am
 
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”I felt a sense of release from my horror at the gullibility manifested on this site that has driven many away.  I feel unclean at the thought that some might take my silence as an endorsement of such New Age kookery.   I feel an obligation to give a voice to those few who really acknowledge the elusiveness and complexity of the itruth about the afterlife.”


Dear Don,

Please know that I am speaking to you with love and kindness in my heart.

Unfortunately I see you as one who continues to bring negativity and discord into this board by ridiculing others for their beliefs.  You have some great posts regarding ES and I can see that you are learning much and are willing to share this with all of us here, however, you clearly show in your responses to Jean and George that you do not love your self unconditionally, therefore, you are incapable of loving others in that manner as well.

To counteract your fear of powerlessness, you use your intellect to greatly puff your self up at the expense of others.  If your intention were clearly aligned with God, you would show love and understanding, rather than condemnation.  Your words of criticism would be words of kindness even though you may disagree with something that was said. 

In your recent responses to a couple of people, you show that you have made your self an authority figure in your own eyes and since you base your self-esteem on what others think, you perceive and fear that others will see you as hanging your dirty laundry out in public for all to see... hence your feeling of "uncleanness" as you mentioned.  If your intention were in alignment with God, you would have no adversaries and either speak kindly or say nothing at all.

By raising your vibrations with loving kindness, you have the opportunity to help raise the vibrations of this board.  You are an intelligent man with a wonderful discernment regarding the literature about the afterlife, however, when you show condemnation to others, you discredit yourself.

With love,
Kathy
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Reply #32 - Aug 31st, 2005 at 11:42am
 
beautifully thought out communication Kathy. Ephrium is with you (Kathy has a guide)  it is the powerful truth I hear. many times Don, if u are reading this, I have felt you stab me. but I no longer take what anyone says personally anymore, so I have grown stronger and wiser. equally Don, many times I have spoken to you and received no answer. that too did hurt me, but not as much as when you finally did get around to responding to me. so I just decided that it would be best not to talk to you at all as Dave said something here yesterday which helped me...he said it's ok to make my choices whom I want to talk to and whom I don't. funny, why would I ever think otherwise? I guess I wanted to relate to you because of your knowledge of books you have read along religious premise..there are a couple of things Jesus has said in the bible about treating others as you would like to be treated, and "greater things then this will ye do" a few phrases which I lived by and reminded myself of often, so I thought this was marvelous, that I could share it, perhaps even with you, who insists on calling me a new ager, therefore you say I am deluded. I soon realized my failure to connect with you. but that's ok. I know theres others who can connect with me. I wish you well on your endeavors, whatever they are and hope you can wish us well someday. I hope you can learn to love yourself too, and accept all the marvelous things that u have been shown but do not accept as valid. goodbye....
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Reply #33 - Aug 31st, 2005 at 12:37pm
 
Kathy, judgmental and patronizing as always!  It IS loving to press someone to expand his perception h beyond a dubious voice in the back of his head.  As for Jean, I was pressed for an honest answer and I gave it in the unvarnished way true feelings must be expressed to be accurate.  But given the vicious way Brendan was sent on his way, I should expect no less.  This site has a very dense vibration indeed!

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Reply #34 - Aug 31st, 2005 at 1:32pm
 
There will come a time (NOW actually), when everyone, certainly including all of us here, can see with utmost clarity that indeed, everyone here is in truth really relating to himself/herself.

That is to say, Berserk's horror and abomination (for what he understands as 'New Age kookery'), Kathy (and Ephrium)'s words of insight & loving advice from their perspective, Alysia's sincerity and willingness to sharing of her personal wisdom, etc. In all of these, the being(s) expressing their energies, thoughts and sentiments via their communication, are doing so as a natural extension of themselves, their nature, their intentions.

Thus, as the guides & helpers quietly observe all happenings, they of course understand that every word, thought and intention, though seemingly directed outward at another, or seemingly invested for a desired outcome for another, is in truth, really all (and always) a reflection of themselves (the 'horror', the intent for assistantiality or advice, and the sincerity of sharing, all are in truth kaleidoscopic reflections of the light from & within these beings, as it passes through the lenses of free will & expression).

But it is a reflection that is part of a gentle and powerful sharing, a connecting between and across consciousnesses, who have given their intention to do so. The listener, in recognizing, relating and connecting with  the ideas or concepts as conveyed by the words, are really connecting with these concepts within *themselves*, as they have chosen to understand these, or create it in their awareness.
 
This is important for the individual to recognize, for lucidity of this process (Clarification) returns (from illusion) empowerement and self-responsibility back to the soul, that each and every person, is certainly capable and responsible, for accepting or receiving what is offered or communicated, in a lucid way that is indeed truthful and helpful to the person him/herself, ie. in alignment, integration and co-creation with the person's own nature, free will, and evolution; and not one that is based on a so-called 'objective', limiting, separative, and fragmented view of reality (ie. that ideas from some other person outside the individual, can actually be *truly* attacking him/her in some way; to paraphrase, the false notion that one's worth, correctness or lovability, can be somehow dependent on, altered or reduced by the ideas, opinions, or perspectives of other beings), which is of course inherently meaningless, illusionary and invalid (as with all emotional suffering & upset, which stems from such).

No one else is ever responsible for (or can give to you without your agreement) your pain of suffering, your hurt of dissapointment, your tears of anger, your sorrowful heart, your temptation to hurt others out of hurt, your wasting or missing the chance to express your care & love for another being who looks to you with his/her tearful eyes; that's your job, your responsibility, your choice.

No one else is ever responsible for (or can choose for you to experience) your understanding & acceptance, your peace of heart, your courage to honour your dreams and your loved ones, your appreciation for the beauty of others and all beings, your shout of joy for sharing with all the universe, your willingness and intention to share your warmth, your company, your wisdom, your light, your love and indeed your very being, with another, with others around you, with all whom you contact, with all beings of the Cosmos.

No one outside of you, is responsible for all of this. Only one being can choose any, or all of this. And that being is You.

And your responsibility in *claiming* your free will, is the most important thing in your universe. GOD Him/HerSelf, is relying on each and every being, on You, for the very nature and outcome of His/Her experience. *You* can choose if God is happy or sad, hurt or accepted, unloved or loved. And at every moment, you are indeed choosing.

For who are You, but verily the very aspect of God that has chosen to experience reality, free will and love, as You.

 

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Remember, you are always the master of your own soul, the creator of your own nature, and the captain of your own destiny. This is always true, whether you are aware of it or not. If it does not matter to you, then that is your choice. And if it matters to you, then (by God) make it matter! For you have all your loved ones (who love you!), all of the Cosmos (so much!), and all of Eternity (so precious!), to love! Make it matter!

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Reply #35 - Aug 31st, 2005 at 5:05pm
 
I am the captain of my soul....
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