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Reply #15 - Aug 29th, 2005 at 7:26pm
 
Don,

She was not a channeler, she was direct experiencer, like most of us and as a result published her past life experiences as "fiction" because some could not accept them merely as far memories-which I might add they became bestsellers in Grear Britian!

But what do I know, I'm just a fan of hers, and a seeker.

Jean Kiss
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Reply #16 - Aug 29th, 2005 at 7:46pm
 
Don in your view,where is the best place to grow.The spirit world is all around earth.All we have to do is stick are arm out,and were in the spirit world.So where is your best place to learn.George
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Reply #17 - Aug 29th, 2005 at 8:45pm
 
George, everything we want to know is inside of us if we know how to access it. I think what Donald was referring to was your comment on earth being the best place to grow spiritually.  George, between earth lives, we can reincarnate on any other planet if it's in accordance with our highest good for learning. And there are many, many, many countless places to incarnate and learn lessons. Wink

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Reply #18 - Aug 29th, 2005 at 8:56pm
 
George, the best place to grow no doubt varies from person to person. For some, growth might be best achieved on another planet with a different culture, level of intellect, and quality of consciousness.   For some it might even be Hell because of their low vibration and hateful lifestyle.   Of course, growth there would no doubt need a retrieval to help one move on to the next stage.  For others, the intermediate realm that Swedenborg calls the World of Spirits, Monroe calls Focus 25 and 28, and the Bible calls Hades and Paradise.  For the more advanced, maximum growth might be achieved by the many challenges of the various heavens. 

I'm just saying we must we careful not to overrate the value and uniqueness of the earth school.  Swedenberg has convinced me that there is no reincarnation of the ego on earth.  I'll be giving his reasons in a future post on my Swedenborg thread.  So if you're interested, stay tuned.

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Reply #19 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 4:08am
 
Focus 28? What's that?
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Reply #20 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 12:44pm
 
I heard this message today.As the rain falls from the heavens and onto the earth,and in time is drawn back into the heavens,so shall we who are borne in earth,be taken back into the heavens.Those who have done good well stay.But those who have not been fruitfull, shall be cast back onto the earth to try once again,for God is a loving God who does not want to lose even one of his sheep.George
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Reply #21 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 12:56pm
 
typo, Sppoky.  I meant to type Focus 25-26, not 25 and 28.
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Reply #22 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 3:07pm
 
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I heard this message today.As the rain falls from the heavens and onto the earth,and in time is drawn back into the heavens,so shall we who are borne in earth,be taken back into the heavens.Those who have done good well stay.But those who have not been fruitfull, shall be cast back onto the earth to try once again,for God is a loving God who does not want to lose even one of his sheep.George


This is a very beautiful message that you got George. Wink

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Reply #23 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 3:48pm
 
Don,

Don said, "Jean, thanks for your example of a good reason to avoid Joan Grant.  Channelers repeatedly expose the bogus nature their claims through egregious anachronisms.  Grant's quote is a clearcut case of synthesized Christian teaching read back to ancient Egyptian spiritual perspectives with which, in truth, it has little in common in terms of either style or content."

Don: My questions to you are: 1) "How did you feel when you gave the above responce?" and 2) "What was your intention in giving the above responce?"

Don't answer too quick and please take your time. Questions like this are sometimes difficult to answer.   Jean

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Reply #24 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 3:57pm
 
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I heard this message today.As the rain falls from the heavens and onto the earth,and in time is drawn back into the heavens,so shall we who are borne in earth,be taken back into the heavens.Those who have done good well stay.But those who have not been fruitfull, shall be cast back onto the earth to try once again,for God is a loving God who does not want to lose even one of his sheep.George


George, I agree this is beautiful what you got. this is the first time since I've known you that I see how loving you are.Grin  alysia
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Reply #25 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 4:11pm
 
Exactly Alysia. That is also what I got out of this. George is a very loving soul. Wink

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Reply #26 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 4:49pm
 
Jean,

In a genuine spiritual quest, there is no love without integrity and no integrity without a passion for verification.  Without this passion, our feel-good dialogue is like two ships passing in the fog, with each ship's passengers intoxicated by the harmony of their common direction and blissfully unaware of the danger of colliding ships and sunken belief systems.   You asked me how I felt when I gave you my response to Joan Grant's anachronistic error.  I felt a sense of release from my horror at the gullibility manifested on this site that has driven many away.  I don't mind bristling disagreement.  But when people abandon all pretense to critical engagement of issues and equate the truth with any stray voice in the back of the head (e.g. recently George) or accept implausible messages just because thye might resonate" (i.e. feel good), I feel unclean at the thought that some might take my silence as an endorsement of such New Age kookery.  I feel an obligation to give a voice to those few who really acknowledge the elusiveness and complexity of the itruth about the afterlife.

In George's case, I ask him not to reject his belief in  reincarnation, but to explore the alternative perspectives on this complex subject in both eastern religions and the New Age movement.

Don



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Reply #27 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 5:12pm
 
Dear Don,

My only response to you can be:

Attanrum pigiya nuna pingitlu tamaita: nuna tamatleerlugo, inuuyoat asin nayortingit tamaita,

Ingme amita sanaya imam kraangane: kukkat
kraangane sannaerklugo.

Kina mayorniarpa tatpaonga Attaurum inanun?: kina nikuvraniarpa inigiknetoaluane?

Suinnakun issakresuittoar inuk, omata salumablune: erkrosuittoarilumine: unnertuutiroayuittoar inukrattine uingayisuklugit.

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Reply #28 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 10:32pm
 
Jean, I don't know what you said but it sounds good to me. ROFLOL

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Reply #29 - Aug 30th, 2005 at 10:41pm
 
Yes, Jean expressed herself with the lucidity so characteristic of her posts.  Her sulking ignores the fact that I only explained my motivation in response to her prickly insistence.  Jean, don't ask if you're unable to really hear the answer.

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