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Reincarnation,of what I saw
Aug 26th, 2005 at 7:52pm
 
A young girl that I knew some 35 years ago,who died of cancar when she was 23,had been on my mind for a long time.Her name was beverley,and from time to time I thought of her dieing at such a young age.Then One night I was awakened by a voice that said beverley.I said what about her.I then saw a vision of a young girl who works at a bingo hall.I wounder if she is the reincarnation of beverley.When I talked about this to the other girl who is 25,she told me when she was 23 it was the worst year of her life.She said the doctors did not know what the problem was.She thought she was about to die,but she got better when she reached her 24th birtday,Beverley is buried in a cemetery not far from where I live.What do you think.George
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Reply #1 - Aug 26th, 2005 at 8:44pm
 

Updated for George, pages 159 to 187 :
http://infinity.hispeed.com/Heart.Of.God/WilliamBaldwin/index.htm

"The situation itself is never the problem, it is your false ideas about the situation, that is the problem." (Byron Katie, timeless).

There's nothing to fear about the situation (eg. Intrusion) itself. There's only compassion, and beings (eg. intruders) that ask to be helped, and beings (eg. guides & helpers) that wish to help. And you, are the bridge that makes the help possible.
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Reply #2 - Aug 26th, 2005 at 10:32pm
 
Hi George-
Many people seems to repeat crises at the same instant of life. I'd say that your intuition is very possibly correct.

However, Dick Sutphen has a theory of multiple manifestations of the same psyche, which suggests that there may be more than one "after image" of Beverly's prior life manifesting in this time. There's a bit more support for this idea from both the math of information systems development and also the experiences of various people in which they seemed to be identified with the nature of collections of people.

Aside from these side thoughts, one very simple way to find out is to ask the woman to regress to her prior lifetime. "Relax, turn off all the stuff in your mind that you aren't using. Focus on the sound of your breathing." - then count slowly down from 20 as you tell her to relax deeper with each number - count on every third or fourth breath - "20 - Relax" - etc - then ask her to just look into her inner imagery and describe what she might see if she were alive 35 years ago - to make it up if necessary until the images seem to present themselves - if she is who you recall, you will get numerous cues - maybe even a narrative. So long as you don't "lead" her, or ask leading questions, this ought to answer the question for you.

Let us know how it works out-
dave
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Reply #3 - Aug 26th, 2005 at 11:56pm
 
Interesting story you tell.
About 3 years ago (summer '02) I heard tell (never met her or knew her) about a 23-y/o girl who had recently died of melanoma. Sad story, stuck with me for some reason.
Anyway, I'd tripped over the story, literally, when I was looking for the classified ads and stumbled on the obituary page. For some reason I saw the photo (young, good looking, out-of-place on an obit page) and read the obituary.
Anyway got me to checking out my skin (I'm a bit of a hypochondriac) and found a funny looking mole on my shoulder. Went to the doc, had it sliced off.
Sure enough, super-early stage melanoma. Got it in time, no problem...
Then here I am going through some old papers to toss in the trash a few months ago (I almost never look at the front page anymore, too depressing) and I see on the front page, the story of this girl!
Needless to say, the "superstitious hick" in me went into overdrive for a little while...
But then, weird coincidences, are the story of my life, so I ended up being not too surprised.
Some might say, this wasn't an accident (in the story, it said she hoped "no young person would ever have to die of cancer again"... it was a story about a foundation in her name) that I stumbled on her obit, got worried and caught my own melanoma early.
But that's absurd. Why would a beautiful, happy, future-is-bright 23-y/o with her whole life ahead of her, have to die so a washed-up, tired-out, cigarette-addicted 34-y/o heap of gangrene like me could have a few more decades of life?
This is just another reason I'd prefer to believe in a random, mechanistic reality... these sort of idiocies wouldn't be entertained by credulous fools...

B-man
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Reply #4 - Aug 27th, 2005 at 1:42pm
 
Well...

B-man (or woman)

Im sorry to attack you every time, but I cannot resist...

You look like a super melanoma of this forum, but that is ok... everyone must learn from your mistakes, and that is your divine purpose here... Tongue

... but, I cannnot resist to smile (on my ugly face) when I read your posts here and to conclude that you are another lost soul on its way to oblivion...

I hope I'm wrong, but it seems that everyone's love here is not helping you, hahaha...

... yes, you maybe need a billion of reincarnations (with green skin and no sex) to comprehend what I just said, but, eternity is long enough...

... don't you agree?

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Reply #5 - Aug 27th, 2005 at 1:57pm
 
Now, now Q...................ROFLOL

Love, Mairtreya
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Reply #6 - Aug 27th, 2005 at 2:01pm
 
No I do not agree,and if you seen and heard what I have,I think you would agree Also.George
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Reply #7 - Aug 27th, 2005 at 2:15pm
 
Oh, I'm sorry, George...

I was talking to B-male...

I agree with everything you say, 'couse that is the way you are seeing things (in this hologram of life)...

sorry again to intrude on your post...

Cry

postscriptum: I'm sure Beverly is on the safe place and enjoying her afterlife... I think you should free yourself of her karma and live your own (holographic) life as best as you can!!!! She would agree with this too... I think...

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Reply #8 - Aug 27th, 2005 at 7:19pm
 
Go to:

http://www.freeonlinegames.com/play/2477.html

A commentary on the human condition, if I do say so
myself... and the plight of Everyman faced with an inimical situation (or non-voluntary afterlife perhaps?)
Enjoy...

B-man
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Reply #9 - Aug 28th, 2005 at 7:54am
 
Marilyn,

I got a hot passage for you; see if you can guess where it came from?  I have been revisiting an old friend of mine, one who we have discussed before.  Here goes:

“Strive for happiness as lesser men strive for power: and remember that love is both the seed and the flower of joy.  Let your actions be such that if they were done to you they would increase your happiness.  Love others that they may love you: and love yourself that you may love others.”

Love to sweet person, Jean Kiss
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Reply #10 - Aug 28th, 2005 at 10:15am
 
Oh my goodness Jean. This sounds like it would be Jeshua. Wink   ???

Love, Mairlyn Wink
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Reply #11 - Aug 28th, 2005 at 11:46am
 
Marilyn,

This was from Amenemhet's speech and known as  the First Law.  Anyhow he spoke these words on being chosen as Pharaoh during the New Kingdom period as Joan Grant's far memory recalled it. She was known as Ra-ab Hotep and was part of a movement called the Eyes of Horus.
Of couse, she phrased it in modern words but the essence of the message is old.  Talk about going full cycle in approx. 5,000 years. Roll Eyes

Believe it or not.

Love, Jean Kiss
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Reply #12 - Aug 29th, 2005 at 12:35pm
 
I am beginning to think that reincarnation is the missing link for church goers in the west.Its the only thing that makes sence.Earth in my opinion is the best area to grow spirituly.I dont think we will get to heaven in one lifetime.We will just have to come back again and again,untill we learn how to live the perfect life to get to heaven.again this is only my opinion.George.
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Reply #13 - Aug 29th, 2005 at 2:02pm
 
Brendan

Some of your questions had already been answered but you are not trying to apply the examples we gave you to answer your on questions.

So here we go again.

We tend to repeat some mistakes during our lifetimes, so the great architect developed a system that assures we will not stop growing till we get there.

When you destroy your physical body or “wound” your consciousness (on purpose due your antics) it generates kind of unbalance at your energetic and due that your “soul” is unable to create a perfectly healthy body to your next lifetime. So in this case you would likely going to be born with some kind of “imperfection” and due that you would go through some experiences that (ironically?) would give you a chance to learn exactly what you need to know to avoid doing the same thing again.
This system avoids one of simple stops at the growing process and help us go faster till de level of development were we have the control of the situation  and  pain is no longer necessary.

(Believe some times we are kind of laze. Grin )

PS: Your point of view is so important to me because it makes me check on my own to see if I have the answer, so please, give us a little more time)
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My hope is to get there whatever does "there" mean...
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Reply #14 - Aug 29th, 2005 at 2:39pm
 
George, you seem totally stuck in an earthbound mentality.  How can you possibly know that Earth is the best place to grow spiritually?  Have you thoroughly explored ALL the worlds in all the other universes and all the spiritual planes in the astral realm?

Jean, thanks for your example of a good reason to avoid Joan Grant.  Channelers repeatedly expose the bogus nature their claims through egregious anachronisms.  Grant's quote is a clearcut case of synthesized Christian teaching read back to ancient Egyptian spiritual perspectives with which, in truth, it has little in common in terms of either style or content.

Don
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