Hey Brendan,

It's interesting, to say the least, to read your posts concerning suicide and heaven, etc, as this was how I found this board recently when I Googled "consequences of suicide."  Not that I was actually considering it...just me entertaining a "what if" scenario, which I do all the time.

Frankly, though, I do see a lot of myself in you...I too wanted to be a professional pilot growing up, which was stymied by my hearing loss (which has grown worse over the years), and then having one dream after another dashed over the years...and yes, I do feel like a total loser sometimes, since I don't have a career worth mentioning and I'm currently at a loss as to how to be gainfully employed, as our current service economy makes it extremely difficult for someone who is unable to communciate using a conventional telephone to make a living.  Granted, I've been quite fortunate otherwise, having received financial windfalls and the like which has kept me going all these years (which is why I have an overwelming desire to be *useful* to others these days, as I've been "subsidized" for far too long...it gives me the shudders to think of the hugmongous "account deficit" I've accumulated in my 38 years so far on this Earth... )

But really, I sit here sometimes having all this free time to myself, wondering why I'm so danged "useless" in this world, which has led to the thought sometimes that I'd just be better off punching my ticket sooner rather than later, and starting over again with a better life plan...but I know that's not how life works, and I know deep down that if only I can work through my current problems that I can someday be of use to *somebody*, if only if can...if only...

Guess that's why I'm learning as much as I can, about everything, really...as I think that's what I'm here for...to learn as much about life (and everything else) while I have all this free time available to me.

But getting back to your "logic" of punching out now and coming back to have a different life...well, if there's one thing that I've learned about "logic" is that just because something is "logical" (in the here and now), it doesn't mean that's it's "logical" in the overall scheme of things...it just doesn't work that way.  Don't ask me why...I just know that's how it is.  If logic was really the way of the universe, then we wouldn't be having the problems we're having/about to have in this world, as everything would work out like it's supposed to be, like logic says it should.  This is why I've given up on the "logic paradigm" a long time ago and began searching above, below and beyond, as it's more than clear to me there's *so much* that we just don't know...especially when it comes to my own psychic abilites like seeing the future, seeing what others are feeling/thinking, etc...it really doesn't make sense (according to logic, that is), but I do have it, and if you were to hang out with me long enough, you'd see what I mean.  (Beleive me, I've freaked out a lot of people this way...lol..it freaks me out too, even to this day.)

You may ask (as any reasonable person would, I'd think) that if I have these "abilities" why my life is such a mess...well, I guess that's just how it works...the way I see it is that if I could just manifest everything I want, then life would cease to have any meaning for me, and what would be the point of living, then?  If there's one thing I've learned so far is that I've come here to *experience* life, and if there's one thing that I've accomplished is that I've certainly experienced a great deal...not just my life, but in the lives of others, and for this, I'm eternally grateful.  Just being able to *experience* life, no matter how difficult or disappointing it may be, is the greatest gift that God/Spirit/Higher Self could ever give me.

I'd love to keep going, but I don't want to be a board hog, so I'll leave at this for now.  Please feel free to respond however you like, as I'm always searching out different viewpoints that others have.

Byron

Hi, Byron,

DocM has basically said what I also wished to say to you.

However, what caught my eye was your section, "...which is why I have an overwelming desire to be *useful* to others these days, as I've been "subsidized" for far too long...it gives me the shudders to think of the hugmongous "account deficit" I've accumulated in my 38 years so far on this Earth... Shocked )

But really, I sit here sometimes having all this free time to myself, wondering why I'm so danged "useless" in this world,...."

Have you ever considered undertaking some sort of voluntary work for the help of others, which, I am sure, would give you a great measure of satisfaction?
I was most fortunate in that I was able to retire earlier than the normal retirement age, but having lost my wife two years ago found I had spare time on my hands. Therefore, I decided to do some voluntary work and now run two sessions a week at my local MS Centre operating their hypobaric oxygen treatment chambers. This gives me great satisfaction in knowing that I am helping much less able-bodied people, and they appreciate it too.

Try it - it might just change your outlook.

roger

ps. Apologies this is off topic.

Excellent idea Roger, becoming a volunteer, being of service which does give one a huge measure of self worth.

With Love, Mairlyn

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Well..first of all, everything everyone else said, lol..

The unwisdomness of such an undertaking (pun intended ) is that from my understanding, we don't just "die" and then the next moment reincarnate.

It could be 50 or even 100 years before you reincarnate, bringing you possibly to the very era you are trying to avoid..

Of course, there's the "caught between a rock and a hard place" problem with the whole idea.
If I have to wait 50-100 years to reincarnate, it would be too late for any good times, ever again... except what a stinking, louse-infested medieval person could have...
After all... if our civilization goes down, it will NEVER rise again, in all the billions of years to come... our resources will be used up. "The good life" on Earth is a one-shot-deal, folks. Think about THAT next time you eat at McDonald's, your official Destroyer of Rain Forests to raise Cheap S**tty Beef (I like to call it "F**kDonald's", I haven't eaten there for 10 years!) or hop into that gas-guzzling SUV you bought to "keep up with the Joneses"...
I've read up on this stuff. The most optimistic predictions I read have us "rediscovering Atlantean crystal power" and saving technological society that way... or other such malarkey and tom-foolery.
But THERE'S a dingleberry-brained idea if I ever heard one. (Atlantis? gee, you'd think archaeologists would have found SOME evidence of it, if it had ever actually existed...)
So I guess when I die, I can still report to "God" (or whatever) for obliteration. (Assuming that my once-comfortable atheism isn't true!) One way or another, I'll have my way (I hope!) Why wouldn't I deserve that? I didn't ask for my "spirit" to brought into existence, after all. IS Reality some kind of pig-evil dictatorship, where intelligent beings have no say in their fate? I hereby declare my official secession from it, if it is...

B-man

Personally, I don't believe that absolute perfection comes from the outside, with what you may have gained in the form of social status or material possessions.
People who have gained that such status in life, as in Bill Gates, may have all the money in the world to make one's life happy and perfect with all that you could want.....however, a shallow spirit exists on the inside.
I believe that absolute perfection comes from within the heart....when the spirit is at complete peace with oneself and everything that exists on the outside. This is what I call 'absolute perfection'...peace, contentment and love is what makes the world go 'round............money, although we need basic monies to survive, is meaningless in my 'world'.
I know alot of people think I live a fantasy....however, it works great for me and it makes my life a great experience......'poor in riches, but rich in spirit'

I have graduated from the school of hard knocks and then gone on to university in perservearance, acceptance and enlightenment........and I wake up every morning with laughter in my heart, a smile on my face and love to feed an army on......and my bank account continues to register 'empty' when each payday rolls around!

There is nothing wrong with having heros, B.  We should all have people we can admire for one quality or another, or many.

What I meant by the pursuit of perfection was the pursuit of an externally oriented ideal state in human life.  Change is part of life.  There are pleasant and unpleasant sides to life at any age.   You may count your pleasures by the minute or by the year.  It is your choice.  As many here have suggested, to be of service can be one way of finding happiness.  There are many others.

love, blink