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quickstrike
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Ghosts
Aug 23rd, 2005 at 4:58pm
 
In the faq section of Gordon Smith's
(supposedly the UK's most accurate medium)
website it mentions that ghosts are not trapped spirits but merely images trapped in time and space
Just wondering what your thoughts are on this?
By the way I'm new here, this is my first post.
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blink
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Reply #1 - Aug 23rd, 2005 at 5:33pm
 
Hi quickstrike!  Welcome to an amazing forum!

Interesting.  How do they interact with us as images?   So many people seem to have an interactive experience.

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Reply #2 - Aug 23rd, 2005 at 6:58pm
 
Uh, with all due or undue respect to Mr. Smith, I don't think so. I was sitting here in a house I just moved into interacting with one just two nights ago.

She let me know she was here, unmistakably, a few nights ago, only the second time I had entered the house alone. I felt like I walked right into her. I can feel where she is regardless of where in the house she stays, and the other night I sent PUL (as well as I can) towards her and she came down the steps from upstairs and stopped about five feet from me. I almost saw her physically. Vague, wispy pieces of a visible image.  I'm somewhat clairsentient, and I'm telling you this nonphysical person is no image. I'm an amatuer photographer, and I have yet to experience an image that made the hair on my neck and the back of my head stand up like she did when I first became aware of her. or rather, she got my attention, and rather forcefully at that.

I don't interact with static images. And they don't respond to love. The gentlman is mistaken, or is lying.

Oh yeah. Images don't follow me around and then stop when I close a bathroom or bedroom door.

'Ghost' is a loaded word, anyway. They're people. Nonphysical people, but people. Treat them like people and - *surprise* -  they act like people, not images.

An image may be worth a thousand words but actions still speak louder. OK, enough. She's moving around again...



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Reply #3 - Aug 23rd, 2005 at 9:13pm
 
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           Hello Linn here( formerly in small  letters as linn) lol, had to change my username so I have capitalized it.  Anyway I want to respond to the below statement.
           In the faq section of Gordon Smith's 
(supposedly the UK's most accurate medium) 
website it mentions that ghosts are not trapped spirits but merely images trapped in time and space
Just wondering what your thoughts are on this?
         Ok, as a medium myself, spirits can be trapped or stuck and are called Ghosts and some paranormal happenings can be leftover fragments of energy that happen over and over again as images that are stuck, sort of how a needle can be on a record stuck playing the same spot over and over again.  I wish you well, linn
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Reply #4 - Aug 24th, 2005 at 2:41am
 
I would hesitate to make an all-inclusive statement like that.
Perhaps some "ghosts" we see are merely leftover energy imprints, much like the "glow" on a tv set after turning it off.
Some people have so much energy, that they leave part of it behind as they pass through.  Both living and nonphysical.
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Reply #5 - Aug 24th, 2005 at 4:49am
 
Thanks everyone for replying  Smiley

Quote:
Interesting.  How do they interact with us as images?   So many people seem to have an interactive experience.

I'm guessing what he's trying to say is that ghosts can't interact with us they are merely recorded images and that it's spirits that are living.
From what I've read what he says is believable but he has put it slightly differently than usual.
I believe as shirley said that  ghosts can indeed be recorded images but can also be spirits that have become trapped which we can communicate with.
If you want to see the rest of the faq go to
http://www.thepsychicbarber.co.uk/faqs.html
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Reply #6 - Aug 24th, 2005 at 6:42am
 
That does make sense.  Some of the apparitions that simply replay themselves could be "tapes" or sort of residual energies trapped in the the "fabric" of space/time.  Meanwhile, the spirits and other entities are interactive beings.

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         A spirit can leave behind a residual energy imprint which is totally different than an actual spirit/ghost who is stuck, if a spirit is stuck then communication is possible , residual energy imprint cannot communicate BUT one can pick up information from this imprint.  love linn
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Reply #8 - Aug 24th, 2005 at 7:09am
 
I agree with Linn.  That is the difference between a residual haunting and an intelligent haunting.
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Reply #9 - Aug 24th, 2005 at 11:51am
 
My understanding from Archangel Michael, with whom I am very strongly connected, is that what we call ghosts are human consciousnesses which were traumatized in some way at the time of death and are 'stuck' in the 3rd dimension by their attachment to a particular location or object. This is all fear-based.

Various other human consciousnesses are stuck because they are so frightened of what has happened to them that they don't properly recognise that they have died, and so are frightened and unwilling to recognise the need to move on.  As I understand it, these are generally in the astral dimension, and are not attached to a specific physical location, and are the spirits that astral rescue workers release.

I say this without prejudice to the likelihood that some experiences of hauntings may be from residual energy patterns rather than actual human consciousnesses.  I hope this helps.
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Reply #10 - Aug 24th, 2005 at 12:05pm
 
Welcome Quickstrike. I feel your question has been answered by the very knowledgeable people here.

Welcome Phillip. I read your post that Kyo pointed us to. I've been contemplating it and wondering if it is possible for all those stuck to be released at once. This brings to mind that possibly some souls are stuck because it's part of their 'lessons'.  I don't know. This just popped into my mind.  Shocked

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Reply #11 - Aug 24th, 2005 at 12:20pm
 
everybody sharing here is right; just adding my 2 cents Grin I like this thread as I try to figure out things like degrees of consciousness within images, imprints, ghosts and those I retrieve. have even gone so far as to speculate that a thought form has life substance in it, or to say my creative thought lives. whatever Grin

what Philip said about the trauma involved around a death is where my experience has been in the case of Cami, a retrieval I cannot forget. it was exactly as he said, that the trauma, perhaps murder caused her not to be aware she had died, because I suppose, it would have been too shattering to recall and so all I did was get her attention and I was instructed by a guiding force to not make her remember by pursuing questioning her, I was just to direct her attention to some guides standing by, some of her friends, perhaps had taken a familiar form to bring her from despondancy and confusion that the death had caused. she was only 16. I felt great love for her because I'm used to teenagers... ...
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Reply #12 - Aug 24th, 2005 at 1:53pm
 
Thank you for your important point, Mairlyn, about some ghosts possibly having to remain 'stuck' because of lessons they need to learn.

I have been consistently told by my guidance, including Archangel Michael, that this is never the case. All stuck human consciousnesses are for sending on, and no matter whether they want to go or not - except that the situation is complicated with regard to human spirits attached to people. In that case there is commonly but certainly not always a karmic issue involved, and it is then generally necessary for a healing session in which the affected person is made aware of the reason for the attachment (usually a past life situation) before the spirit is allowed to be released.
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Reply #13 - Aug 24th, 2005 at 2:28pm
 
Hey....I have a question about ghosts....I watched that movie 'White Noise' recently and I am wondering if it is actually true that spirits can be picked up in the way that they did, thru continuous video taping....or is it 'only in the movies, darlin?'   ???
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Reply #14 - Aug 24th, 2005 at 2:47pm
 
Hi Mystic,

I didn't care for that movie, and of course it was overly dramatic.  All white noise is, is a steady background noise.  It doesn't cause there to be EVP, and you can capture EVP without the use of background noise.  In paranormal investigation, it has become a popular device in some circles, but not a necessity.  The movie did not correctly portray the use or meaning of very much, in my opinion, and most people who don't know much about paranormal investigation techniques get the wrong idea from that movie.
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