I was also automatically logged on, I guess because of cookies, and don't know why I can't get back on with my old 'persona.' LOL  And I had 5 messages I was saving, now seemly gone forever. 

Love, Mairlyn

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ha ha! very funny Don. I think you shall be Super member by the time you get to 250 posts and u only have 187 so start rockin! just make a lot of short posts instead of page long ones...just ribbin' you back!
  ps. I plan on reading Swedonborg. he was really ahead of his times don't u think?

love, alysia

I hear u saying it was helpful to read Van Dusen as well. but I want it from the horses mouth so to speak, as to me, Van Dusen is just his interpretation on top of Swedenborgs interpretation of his journies. stilted formal convoluted language is my speciality. I can really get into that if I have the time. which I assume is what Swedonborg is.
cheers, alysia

glad you're back MD!

hi Dave. this name was given to me in focus 10 long time ago. I told my guides sounds like an indian name and I don't want to be a new ager! ha ha! I ended up using it anyway on this book I will be publishing as soon as I'm done, as an author name. it's because my guides always make me laugh!
yes many dimensional selves floating around out there; now, if I could only get my act together!
love, alysia

uhg! dave, you said the nasty word meditation! ha ha! here a poem, sort of, I wrote:

hours sat I, but there was no pie, not even in the sky, I felt I should have pie, but alas, there simply was no pie; still, I did sit, yes, for maybe there would show up some pie? and on and endlessly sat I for pie...

hee. u can see where that's going right?

my first slice of pie was from reading Monroe, just a nibble really, but, everyone here should admit that he established a bonafide school of thought. TMI. and don't know if anyone knows this either, that this here place is like an outreach school from that. I once saw a bunch of spirits observing the forum...making comments on each poster...lol. they came to me and said oh look at what that one is doing! wasn't sure I wanted to know! hee. but being the eavesdropper that I am I listened and they said I was afraid to come out of hiding!
well, if you mix psychology with spiritual type concepts which I cannot separate really, you understand right away, higher self is always in there, helping us expand into these greater selves, future selves that we already are on some level. I appreciate the science aspects you bring to us even if I do a bit of stretch there. it's all good. one response from higher self is two in the hole. did I say that right?
about being like a counselor type person; like you and Jean are...been thinking a bit here lately about what Ernest Holmes said; founder of Religious Science. the guy has absolutely no emotions btw. (thought I'd throw that in ahem. ah, he said The true teacher sets free his student.
I think I've been trying all my life to set others free while trying to free myself from what doesn't feel good. oh course my success or failure in this could be argued for centuries... thankfully, I have eternity to argue the point

well, y'all have a day now. like my mom who thinks she's smarter than me said "you take the good with the bad." it's the only philosophy I could get her to share with me, however, it sort of gave me some clarity with the relationship.

love and light and enjoy. alysia

Hi Alysia - forgive a bit of doggerel-

YOU sat for a pie,
For a pie in the sky,
Waiting, perhaps, to be seen by the Eye in the Sky.
Yet all along there was the I,
The inner EYE of the I.
EYE: know YOU.

All this spiritual stuff of which you are aware is, de facto, the meditation, its path to enlightenment, and the fruits thereof.  Sitting too long always gave me a pain. The point of meditation is that the mind sits in place, on topic, with open awareness, joy and love. The purpose of an aching backside seems to be the natural reminder of this fact.

As a therapist, my actual task is to kindly drive patients away.

Spooky - You might ask that grinning buddha to convince you that there's more going on than meets your prior expectations. For example, to bring a new and overwhelming realization into your life.

The Buddhist approach begins with the rejection of a material God and an eternally unchanging soul, replacing them with Mind, much as the esoteric Vedantist views reality as the dreams of an ineffable non-material Brahman.  So it seems that we are always talking to ourselves in some form, nor can we avoid talking to ourselves in some form. From a purely cold blooded means-vs-ends perspective, that suggests that love is of the highest value.  Else, we are internally at war. Or is that too politically incorrect for the present day?

d