Quote:I bet that spending a few hours a week doing some volunteer work that involves helping others is worth oh I don't know.....maybe 100 years of posting nonstop on internet conversation boards.
And I also bet that even St Peter would agree with that!
Lol very much agree with that! Though i do think its a bit relative to each person. I used to volunteer and want to get back into after i get the scooter i ordered--i need transportation, cause this little po-dunk town has very little in the way of public trans.
As far as the rest of your post, i see what you are getting at though i don't think its so black and white as you are painting it.
And, while i personally believe in Karma, i don't think it should an excuse not to care about and try to help others. If i saw a man or woman being beaten on the street, i would be there in a heartbeat and wouldn't think, "Oh well, its probably their karma, they probably deserve it"
But, and the recent tragedies and scandals surrounding same in LO, and in the Tsunami regions, shows how corrupt our society is, and how little the common person can really help in a direct material way, even if they give of their money....and think it will actually go to what it is supposed too...
I think this immense, controlling greed in the world, is part of the reason why some extreme changes will happen... A leverler in many respects, cause apparently, we just can't get our crap together without some outside intervention.
At the same time, most of humanities problems relate back to spiritual 'causes', looking at it from a collective viewpoint. If many, many more had more spiritual beliefs, and more of these were in power, then the world materially would be in much better shape, i believe.
Its like with Jesus and that time period. The supressed Jews then thought and wanted Jesus to lead a rebellion against the Romans, and to vanquish them with his mighty spiritual powers, and some had read this into the prophecies about him.
They totally misunderstood what he came here for, that he wasn't basically political (though he occasionally made comments on the corruptness of the various leaders and groups then), and he told people that true and lasting changes must happen within self from a spiritual perspective, and then it would branch out, effect others, and gradually lead to better material changes...
Unfortunately because of the denseness of the energy of physicality, there is a huge "lag effect" when talking about the collective changes materially from the spiritual/consciousness changes which is becoming ever increasing within the individual now...
Basically, if life originated from pure energy, or what some call "spirit", and if it it going back to that, then the material while it has its relative importantce, is not so much what needs to be "healed" since the material is just a reflection of densified soul energies.
We need to heal the Soul first, and the only way this will happen, is through spiritual teachings, which also teach a responsibility to others on all levels materially, mentally, and spiritually.
Seth speaks against this and so Seth is very, very dangerous to the Oneness, and healing movement, and this the reason why i speak out against these beliefs.
Basically they say to only worry about yourself, that you have no responsibility to worry about others in the caring sense... Only "your" "creating" "matters" type of spiritual baloney.
Other, much more verified and reputable Sources like E.C., Bruce Moen, Rosiland McKnight,etc., seem to stress a very different way, that we should be active on many levels for the benefit of others, but again these sources also seem to stress the spiritual attitude changes more so....
Basically it seems that on average, those with strong selfishness and ego tendencies are strongly attracted to Seth's Teachings cause it supports their selfish, ego ways of being. These teachings very much keep the ego well fed, and work against the manifestation of the Collective, Universal, helpful to all type of energy which we so desperately need at this very important and critical cycle.
Normally, i tend to be 'live and let live' and that people's belief systems shouldn't be criticized no matter how much i disagree with them, yet i have a very strong inner urge to speak out against these particular teachings. While this is not politically correct in this ultra p.c. country, i am reminded of Jesus's powerful and biting criticisms of the spiritually and materially corrupt Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes, etc. and more so their insidious and misleading "teachings". I would completely understand if Bruce bans me for these comments, as i understand his position and what he is trying to accomplish with this board.
But, when tuning into Seth, i am very, very strongly reminded of the account in Bruce's book of the "guide" called Shawn, and the channelers deep but attached unhappiness, because of her ego needs to be known as a channel (she did have some very "real" psychic abilities but she wasn't very "intune").... Anybody who had worked on themselves and had some measure of spiritual discrimination who tapped into this "guide" Shawn, realized how filled with darkness and how sick and destructive this spirit guide was. Not to be hated, or even disliked, but to be spoken out against, while having compassion for those who are suffering so much and so attached to ego.
The time draws near for some very, very intense changes on many levels, and people need to be as prepared as possible, and a part of that is logically debating the validity and
helpfullness of psychic info and their sources. In some cases i have impersonally stuck up for the Seth material, but only for teaching/relative purposes.
Being very Universal and looking to many sources, any which promote the Oneness movement
in a practical everyday living manner no matter what name it goes under (Buddhism, Christianianity, Taoism, Cayce speak, Moen speak, McKnight speak, etc.) and what source talks about it, it is very important if it stresses the concept of Oneness yet the "sources" which go against it need to be spoken out against rationally and without strong emotion.