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alysia
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have we forgotten who we are?
Aug 9th, 2005 at 12:13pm
 
Hi Guys and gals. anybody here remember Monroe's books where he saw curls standing in line to come into physical and first they had to get their memory erased?  reminds me of a lobotomy sort of....lol. oh, theres a reason for sure.
however I have some material from a source called RA to support Monroe's work. before you poo poo Ra, check to see if there's anything in it for you. heres some quotes I saved for my own use and just wanted to share and maybe spark some conversation.
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RA:  This is the only place of forgetting. It is necessary for the 3rd density entity to forget what it really is so that the mechanisms of confusion or free will may operate upon the newly individuated consciousness complex. (B1, 193)

THE VEIL SPLITS THE MIND INTO CONSCIOUS AND UNCONSCIOUS PARTS
QUESTION: The idea was then to create some type of veil between the conscious mind and the unconscious mind. Is this correct? (B4, 41)
RA: This is correct.

RA: The entity which reaches intelligent infinity most often will perceive this experience as one of unspeakable profundity. It is not unusual for the entity to immediately desire the cessation of the incarnation.
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some personal reflections on the above and I assure my own pov: as some of you know we are shifting into the fourth dimension state of consciousness as a collective whole, otherwise known as the shift in consciousness. it will take awhile. we have begun perhaps a process since the beginning of time but a definite speed up is occurring. it is simply that 3 dimensional living is not enough anymore. as for the statement above where an individual may desire immediate cessation of an incarnation when experiencing a profound 4rth dimensional leap, either through obe, prayer, meditation, kundalini rising, NDE, etc, etc....the ways are myriad...I am understanding that desire as not an unhealthy desire at all. I am also understanding I have become nuetral about cessation of this incarnation...staying is joyful...leaving is equally joyful...so just wanted to share with you all how I feel here in the year 2005 this moment. was wondering if any of you out there are also nuetral? I know a few of you are already slipped into the 4rth and live there a lot.  blessings, and thanks for the read. ...
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Re: have we forgotten who we are?
Reply #1 - Aug 9th, 2005 at 12:23pm
 
I agree totally with Ra. 

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Re: have we forgotten who we are?
Reply #2 - Aug 9th, 2005 at 4:07pm
 
Hello,
I think to forget what we are and were is to intensify the learning experience here. With this remembrance we probably would await all the time to go back, or tangled in memories we would act always looking behind, if acting would be possible at all, and we would not get new insights of who we really are; so, finally to forget who we really are is due to get MORE insight of who we really are, more self-consciousness. Mountain climbers often say they go to their limits because they learn something about themselves. Might be similar with this earth-challenge in general.

Concerning the wish to quit and go back: If one was in eternity, why not staying here a little while longer? But, if one is really SHURE it is not necessary to learn here anything more, it's everyone's own choice...

Greetings, spooky
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alysia
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Reply #3 - Aug 9th, 2005 at 5:34pm
 
Spooky said: Concerning the wish to quit and go back: If one was in eternity, why not staying here a little while longer? But, if one is really SHURE it is not necessary to learn here anything more, it's everyone's own choice...

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my theory is that last part about choice..but that one moves towards the understanding that you have choice; until you realize you have choice, you do not have choice.
my other theory is that if one finds one self in eternity, the desire, with further more widened perspective, the desire is to return. the grass is always greener on the other side kind of thinking. speaking generally of course.
my 3rd theory...lol...(didn't know I had so many) is that you cannot be certain that you have nothing more to gain, nothing more to experience here, unless you have others with whom you interact and for what ever reason, give information and PUL (pun, take note.lol) you back into a reason to stay.
example: family wants you to be with them.

is reason I say..be nuetral, that is to be prepared for whatever happens, to stay or to leave. unless, surprise deaths are something you have planned out by higher self.

I bring this up after meeting a spirit..who was so not serious about his life that he told me he planned his own accident and enjoyed every minute of dying. who am I to judge? but he had a lot of explaining to do to his bereaved family..but don't have to explain anything to me. I passed on what he said but wasn't worth much to them. their hurt was still there. most often families carry some guilt they did something wrong by not seeing it coming. so then the person on the other side spends a lot of time trying to persuade them it wasn't their fault. I say, instead of dying, then coming back to make things right, make things right before dying by open communication. it's for certain we carry responsibility for what our relationshps look like and if we hurt someone, even unintentionally, we need to make it right, is easier to make it right here, than there. heres a little more RA:
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There was very little development of faith or will (some ancient beginning of man)
The facility of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of 3rd density. Those entities which do not do their homework be they ever so amiable or likeable, shall not cross into the 4rth.
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this above sort of puts us all back in the saddle to ride our own horse across the praire....
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Re: have we forgotten who we are?
Reply #4 - Aug 10th, 2005 at 2:58pm
 
Hey,

Just a bit intrigued, if we are a in a third demension state, what will be different, what will we be able to do/experience? how will this affect us? and when will it happen?

also is their a 5th/6th/7th etc!?

kinda mindblowing that it seems so real and close in a world of doubts, specially from me still...

Cheers Ryan
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alysia
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Reply #5 - Aug 10th, 2005 at 3:52pm
 
Dave or Kyo or Mairlyn or any body here, would you be able to explain living in a 3 dimensional world and living in a 4rth dimensional consciousness? what the differences might be? I mean in simple language everybody can understand.

Ryan, I can tell u something about the 5th. it's peaceful, you hardly ever have a problem which does not present a solution, you never get uptight anymore, but you do stretch yourself, it's not like u don't challenge yourself, you just don't get uptight if u goof up which is still possible but no longer something to dwell on or worry about. I was told a lot of people on this forum operate from the 5th within their intentions. Grin

another thing is the shift can be imperceptible as a process Ryan...it just depends on the person..it can sometimes happen quickly. I've heard about this. it's more of a tip toe thru the tulips with me so can't explain it well. I think hemi sync helps bring it on quicker, the growth aspects.
love, alysia
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Reply #6 - Aug 10th, 2005 at 3:55pm
 
Hi Alysia,
I just want to add that I find there isn't something to add to what you're saying. Good stuff.
bEye, spooky
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alysia
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Reply #7 - Aug 10th, 2005 at 4:18pm
 
thanks for the vote of confidence Spooky but did u notice Dave's scientific bent? hee. I sure could use some of that now and then!
hello, goodbyEye!...
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