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Chris Francombe
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Jul 16th, 2005 at 3:33pm
 
due to my good nature i got bullied throughout school. it wasn't really physical, but nearly everything i did, in body language, speech, anything, would be ridiculed. i never fought back, i never really saw any point, i preferred to try to ignore it. after years and years of this, the repressed anger still remains.

lots of attention was focussed on my body language when i was bullied, i became very paranoid. for the last few years, i have had a lot of trouble socially, i still fall into the same mentality i had when i do certain things....relationships failed because i was too shy and nervous. sometimes i would literally shake and sweat when talking to people, because i considered myself as inferior....i thought to myself why i exist as a good natured person when i'm just so anxious, lacking motivation, and a waste of space. my only quality that i could fall back on was my musical ability, i write music.

anyway, i'm just pondering this really, wondering if i intended this to happen in my life. i mean i've always had this feeling that years from now, i will break free from this mentality, and realise my full potential, but that could also just be wishful thinking when i get paranoid.

i just find it hard to be myself around people, and i feel inferior, i know i have love to give, so much, but i just dont know what to do. i'm generally lacking motivation and need a kick up the --- , so to speak.

just wondering if you nice people think that these things don't just happen? if this has happened for a reason.

thanks guys

chris x
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Reply #1 - Jul 16th, 2005 at 6:36pm
 
Hi Chris,
when I was a child I was very shy too. No step without mum or dad. It changed when I was about 8 or 9 years old, and I became very rebellish and clown-like which of course causes problems with my teachers. Now I'm not really shy but it's difficult for me to get new friends and to be social, a loner, so to say.
On my Hemi-Sync-Journeys I took some looks on previous lifes and found that hiding from and being in opposite to other people is a pattern in "my" lifes. I don't know why, maybe there is no "why" like a traumatic experience, maybe it's just the way of my personality. But that could be different in your case. You have to find out that on your own, with Hemi Sync, Hypnosis etc...
Because your problem seems to be urgent, think about talking with a therapist, you can talk to them in a totally different way than to friends (or people who will possibly become friends) because there is no risk to loose a friend, to get bullied or to be ashamed of your anxiety, it's just the job of a therapist.
You know about your problem and you asked for help. That's the start to get better!
All the best, spooky
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Reply #2 - Jul 17th, 2005 at 8:46pm
 
Chris,

Many of our experiences while young can help to shape our personalities and later can create prisons for us.  You become "invisible" because there is a part of you which knows it may keep you safe. 

When you are an artistic person it is important to be able to find a safe space in which to create.  You know how to be safe.  Now you want to know how to reach out again.

Just take small steps.  Put yourself out there, even if it is uncomfortable.  You will find that people generally are most concerned with themselves and not you.  The worst thing you could do to embarrass yourself will be forgotten within the hour. 

Does that mean you are not important? No.   Just that the world is a full and vibrant one.  You can find your niches.  Just get out there and practice.  Just be there.

love, blink

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Reply #3 - Jul 18th, 2005 at 2:48pm
 
i got to agree with blink...

im not saying i was shy but i wasnt really outgoing, specially compared to some of my friends....but i didnt want to be i decided to change, change little things in your life that make you feel good, they all add up. and take steps, do things u would be embrassed by, feel uncomfatable, only sdmall things and work up, i can't dance, well couldnt, not sure if i can now! lol but i just did it and now i go to a club or a party or sumthin and dance and i dont care about anyone else (well what they think i mean) and no one cares, everyone just dances. Thats just an example but there many the same, the way to overcome shyness is to pretend ur not and u will soon get over it, plus shyness isnt a problem, were all different, don't think of it as a bad thing....

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Reply #4 - Jul 19th, 2005 at 1:05am
 
I had some of the same problems you describe.
Now... I consider genetic defects to be THE most
revolting aspect of nature, and proof that if a personal "God"
exists, "He"'s either a bumbler (and therefore undeserving of respect) OR "He"'s and a$$hole and I'm proud to be "His"
sworn enemy for all eternity...
If there's a personal "God", he's the KING of bullies after all... think about it!!!
Genetic defects, you ask? Well, I was cursed with
a "high anxiety threshold" and a cowardly streak
which combined to make me a social outcast in my
youth, and an embittered hermit today. Thusly, I
have sworn to never father a child in this existence... to knowingly pass on a genetic defect is
more evil than shooting somebody, as far as I'm concerned. At least the person you're shooting at has a CHANCE to escape...
I also LOATHE the anti-stem-cell and anti-cloning
idiots... they are fighting to PRESERVE genetic defects, and to ensure that people just like me are
still being born a thousand years from now. THAT
really pisses me off.
This life I've devoted to eliminating cowardice and ALL effeminacy from my character, and to train myself in certain skills which I hope will follow me into my next incarnation. I've also been celibate for the last few years, as part of my discipline program (I fall in love too easily... another character flaw which must be expunged.) It's tough, difficult work and progress has been glacially slow. BUT... how else can I ultimately be "Captain of my own Ship?" That, above all else, is my fondest wish.... take my happiness, but I refuse to surrender pride;  PRIDE, the glory of existence...

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Reply #5 - Jul 19th, 2005 at 2:04am
 
Grin.........aaaah Brendan!! Why, this is so cute!!  Grin
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Reply #6 - Jul 19th, 2005 at 6:42am
 
I used to feel kind of a Brendan and Chris “Mix”… 

Now I feel little better… I think we are kind of God so if we do not learn how strong our thoughts and feelings are we won’t be able to control it and happiness will be quite hard to reach.
I think we need to control our emotions and thoughts in order to build the heaven inside our selves. (This way we can carry it wherever we are)
While we are caught in a physical body the damage we can cause to our selves and to the other is limited, once free, things are harder to control. So lifetimes mean a chance to reach some balance and then be able to enjoy our real “shape” the Gods shape.
If we are Gods sons HIS genetic is our inheritance.
So it doesn’t matter the trouble we are going through every thing will be fine because inside us lives a power that can drive us to the right place at the right moment. Simple go through the live and never give up living and see what happens. (we are part of God so He simple can’t hurt us. Can a hand wound the other on purpose?)

Hugs to you all.
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Reply #7 - Jul 19th, 2005 at 8:23am
 
Hi Chris

I think you are the only one who can have the final say as to why this has happened in your life. It would be more comforting for you to have someone else tell you why, but in the end, you are the one with the power to say why.

Which doesn't mean you can't as others for a list of possibilities to run through!

I have alot of talents but have also struggled with very low self esteem. Unless you have been there, you can't imagine how something like very low self esteem or a sense of being inferior can sabotage things you try to do.

There is a difference in asking why this is happening and in asking how one got there. In my case, my parents are alcoholics. If I want to come up with reasons or excuses for how I got this way, I have a whole grab-bag of things I can choose from. But that doesn't answer why I chose this family for my birth. If i were to go to your average counselor, who doesn't understand ideas of reincarnation or something similar, then I would just get ways to deal with the family. But I'm not sure that would help me deal with whatever it is in me that chose this family situation, which is the real question, I think.

I vaguely recall reading a story of a woman...this was in a collection of anecdotes on what past-life probing could reveal and produce...who was trying to write something, a book maybe, and she couldn't finish it. So she sought help from a counselor. In delving into ...whatever, she experienced recalling a past life in which a diary she had written was used to prosecute or persecute her. Her written words had been used against her. The realization of why she was blocked from writing and that that life wasn't here and now released her to finish her writing. I don't think this is your story, I think you have to have the personal experience to have the freeing; it's the process of finding for yourself what happened that helps free you.

I'm not "good" at doing this past life exploring but I have had times when I have read somethign that someone else write and had a profound emotional response to it and sometimes it has opened somethign up for me, so I think there is more than one way to get at this info.

One thing that struck me when I read it was something in the Seth stuff, I think, something about anearlier people, like Lemurians, who disliked conflict so much that they would faint rather than confront someone (please remember that is my memory of something I read a couple of decades ago!). That made me realize how different my response might be from someone else's response. I had been very argumentative as a child and teen but a teacher's comment had set me to thinking. I became just the opposite. Not for personality but because of a belief. I turned the other cheek to excess! not a good path either. I still am not sure how and when to speak out most effectively.

What is interesting is that you got a number of replies that say the person has or has had similar feelings. I think that is interesting. Maybe even significant. You are obviously very sensitive to the ambience created by other people. There are so many dense and insensitive ones out there who wouldn't even respond like you do because they don't see what you see. I just think that means something important even though I'm not sure what it is.

Sometimes when I remember to do it and am able to do it, it helps if I am able to focus on PUL even for people I can't stand. If I am focusing on the PUL I don't focus on feeling inferior.
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Reply #8 - Jul 19th, 2005 at 7:09pm
 
That last one is such an excellent point point to make, Lucy, and one which can be used in many situations. 

To focus on love eliminates fear.  Loving oneself...and loving others around us is so empowering.

Love protects us while freeing us at the same time.  I confess that I sit on airplanes just loving everyone like crazy and it certainly relieves my silly fears.

love, blink
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Reply #9 - Jul 19th, 2005 at 10:22pm
 
Well Blink...I in some ways dealt with the same thing. I was bullied because I was so unique and introverted. My uniqueness as a black kid who wasn't the stereotypical black kid....I didn't do what everyone else did....I had very good grades...and I was poor when everyone else was buying 150 dollar shoes.

People bullied me like I did something wrong and it just made me even more of a distrusting, to myself, self loathing individual. It more or less defines ME now and who I became, because that for me was society's big test that I "failed". I think the reality of that is that it does force you to cope and you ultimately learn a lesson.

Remember the phrase..."struggle only makes a man stronger". And because our "struggle" was more emotional, that led us to be who and what we are now. The only concern I have now is was all of that a destined path? Was who I am now going to be the case regardless and that I had to go through those times to become who I am now?

Well regardless, I do feel that in life you will get the answers to the things that you seek the answer to, whether its in this lifetime or in the Afterlife!! I would just reflect back on that time and be thankful for it creating a definitive of your character. I meet so many one-dimensional, shallow individuals who never had to work for anything and always had everything "perfect" and it makes me appreciate who I am.

I consider myself an enigma for everyone around me and for myself to TRY and figure out....and that has made life interesting!!!! Just think about that. Those experiences made you into a unique individual, and them bullying you was just a sheepish reaction to them wanting to be you or not understanding you and reminding them of their impurities and issues.....so in the end, you won. The prize is just realizing what all of that means....
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Reply #10 - Jul 20th, 2005 at 11:52am
 
Look at the number of reads you have Chris, 153 and counting. I'd say you have struck a chord within us and we are resonating with you. this is musician talk and I share your love of music as I'm sure there are many music lovers here who may not express it, and you may not be a social butterfly but on the other hand, it's neat to have the internet in this life and you are being quite sociable right now! lol.  everybody is sharing here as from the heart, and it kind of blows me away right now as we usually don't get this lovable...lol. you are responsible for reaching out and started this thread. everyone has something to say about the subject. seems we all come from pretty much the same place only to end up here...lol...but here is looking good. I was bullied by my brother as a youngster, and yea, you do carry those memories and they do effect you as adults until you can find forgiveness somewhere. I used to question why I was born in the wrong family, getting punched around and told that it was my fault the whole family had a cold because I had gotten the bug first. lol. thanks mom! did I choose this? I think so, so that I could rise above what it did to my sense of being inferior and a social outcast. as a child we have these difficult situations we live through where we tend to believe the feedback we are getting from others about who we are, even though we are saying to ourselves, it can't be true, that it's my fault everyone got a cold, because that would mean I'm a bad person and I don't feel that way. so you already know that you're good natured person, I'd say go with that and don't believe the feedback you got way back in the past. the only bit of wisdom I can think of this day in relation to this topic is "forgive them, for they know not what they do."
much love to you all, and Chris, I expect you to get busy with the music soon...we need more music in this world, I mean "real" music, something that brings us all together. alysia...
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Reply #11 - Jul 20th, 2005 at 6:28pm
 
HI Folks-

So many who have chosen to take up their cross in this lifetime so that they would be driven to communicate on a past life information forum!  So very many! Who'da thunk it?

I you really want to discover why you chose this specific path, get someone who is skilled at guiding past life regressions to help you go back and have a look. Out of thousands of hours as a past life therapist, I have never yet found a person with a present history of abuse who didn't select this life for a good reason. Usually it seems to be the result of our being a bully in the past, or a cruel soldier, a mean parent,  or the equivalent. (Unfortunately, that seems to have included me as well. Hah!)

Conversely, had I not been subjected to sexual and physical abuse as a child, I would neither be as competent in psychoanalysis as I am, nor would I have been motivated to look into spiritual truths as a way to understand what was happening. Taken in sum, this is a good life, and I'm glad I was victimized. But I don't think I want to do it again, thank you.

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Reply #12 - Jul 20th, 2005 at 11:17pm
 
J.G., you hit the nail right on the head...
"Society's Big Test"... yes, indeed that IS what it was, and
I DEARLY wish I had fully understood this great truth "back
in the day." The test of being worthy of the organic compounds and minerals which make you up, no less... Darwin's Grand Examination, I will call it.
And so, I have failed a test which the VAST majority of men pass
with flying colors. Meaning that whatever I do now in the downslope of my life, will be tarnished by this failure... which of course means, I must
not only come back (reincarnate) and "do it right"
a second time, but perhaps 10,000 times, if that's what it takes for me to feel "clean", if you will. ONLY
THEN shall I have expunged this most revolting
of failures...
P.S. Lucy, you said that the "Lemurians disliked conflict so much, they would faint" rather than face
a confrontation?
Gee... no wonder they've been extinct for the last 100,000 years (if Cayce is to be believed.)
Conflict, the essence of concious existence? Quite
possible...!
One more thing...
If I chose this "cross to bear" for mistakes made in
a former life...
Then why would I have chosen to WASTE the best times that will ever be on earth (late 20th-early 21st centuries) on a life full of problems? Why wouldn't I have chosen this time in history for a really GREAT life?
I mean... there's an extremely high probability that the future of humanity will be miserable, nasty, and medievalistic... just as his past was.
This current one-century period in history is probably VERY SPECIAL... unprecedented in the past, and almost no likelihood of anything like it happening again in the future. (How could it, with all our obtainable fossil fuels burned up and economically accessible minerals mined out? These things took BILLIONS of years to form, and will take equally long to re-form...)
Why would I WASTE my GOOD lives in  the filthy, crude, primitive world of the past, or the likely equally filthy, crude, primitive world of the future? Why would ANYONE, for that matter? I mean... this throws the WHOLE NOTION of us "choosing our destinies" into question, as far as I can see...

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Reply #13 - Jul 21st, 2005 at 12:21pm
 
Hi Brendan
You ask why, and there's never a good enough answer except "because". 

Why, for example, would a presumably intelligent adult throw away a lifetime in order to poke cocaine up his nose? Why would an otherwise competent wife and mother choose to have an affair? Why would a father beat his child to death? The very best answer I heard was when Clinton was talking about his escapades with Monica Levinsky. Why did he do it? He said, "Because I could."

It seems that human naure is imperfect, and the way we learn is to do various things until we discover how to avoid the ones that cause pain. One part of these is the things we do to others and to the outside world. The other part is things we do
to ourselves, by attachment to attitudes that serve us badly, such as by refusing to enjoy what we are doing, by rejecting whatever security we have in favor of rage and anger against others, and by choosing false pride, self delusion and tinsel for the solid truth and fact through which we can acquire the true gold of wisdom.

Fortunately, those are only problems for other people, eh? I certainly don't see any of that applying to me personally.

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Reply #14 - Jul 22nd, 2005 at 10:47am
 
I beleive we get attached to these personality traits, and start to think that is who we are.  These things can be changed when you set your mind to it. I was extremely shy as a child, would cry when the teacher asked me why I was late.....
I decided to change, now I read poetry in front of crowds , even solo sing on stage.
Being raised in Chicage I learned to be on defense with people in general.  Decided to change that, learn to trust and be open.
Could make anything, but not sell it, was poor. Didnt like that, now I own my own jewlerey bussiness and sell my paintings myself.
dont like it that I spend so much time insolation,  Hummm, I think Ill change that too.

Give yourself the power to change these quirky things that can be changed.  Allow yourself to be empowered, dissattached from the familar flavor of your beloved struggle.  Then who are you?????

Genetic deformity?, sounds like a cop-out

Love, light and aloha!!
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