Hi everyone, i had to post this today but last night i had my first actual fully conscious Astral Projection... and not just once either!

I layed down to go to sleep and i had no conscious effort on my behalf to go OBE, i just wanted to sleep! but i found it hard to....but eventually i actually fell asleep and then gained awareness back once my body was asleep lol so now i'm in my bed face down fully awake but body asleep.

Then i felt the rushing noise throught my ears and i found a way to not get excited! i just think about and the noise, and feel it and i also felt something else that was weird, it was like a line straight across my stomach full of energy that felt like i was tensing it..really really hard...at one point i felt whoa it that was happening to me in real life that would be painful lol.

so anyway it happened then suddenly i was laying there..and i thought try rolling out of bed, and i did and didn't feel the floor and knew i had seperated. It was weird and i think it was astral because in one corner of my room is bed bed, and opposite that is like a draw unit with my TV on, i was lying over this and not the bed? Anyway i wanted to move and floated through my wall into my sisters room, so i got to the bed again and look at my bed and placed floated towards that (this is lying down btw) and i was sleeping in my bed, but not as i am now, but like 10-12 years younger?? i then thought weird and came out...

man i have so much to tell but i'll keep it short lol, the way i see in astral is by like opening an inside pair of eyelids, i open these when im OBE and i can see.

Next time i manage to get upright but i couldnt stand up? i lifted myself up and felt my astral feet on the floor but then came out again....i think all in all i must have had an OBE about 6 times, only short ones though, a few minutes to one which i think is about 10 mins.

A brief outline of a few, i went inside bathroom and saw myself in the mirror...went up to my window and just outside and gliding into the trees near the playing field, and just kept inside my room really experiencing it.

one weird time i was laying down in my bed this time astral, couldnt see anything, but i heard like paper being crushed into a ball, then i felt like someone had droped it on me and it just rolled of my back...??

anyway thanx for reading, i had to share this with someone as i don't really talk to my family about it. It was such a weird experience and now i know i can get over the excitment and know what i'm trying to achieve to OBE, hopefully i can now fully explore this new world to me, start of my journey and im loving it! thanx for all the help as well and answering my questions, really gratefull.

Right off to work now, Speak to you all soon,

Cheers Ryan

hey thanx for the reply. I experience lucid dreaming before...and that doesn't seem very real...but this was like whoa, this is scary real...its proved a lot.

and thanx for reminding! must look at my hands! apprantly if you focus your attention you can go for longer?? is this true?

it is the weirdest experience i have and i hope to try again tonight, i'll let you guys know what happens.

Have you managed to go subsequent times since your first OBE Chen-Kuang?

Cheers Ryan

hey vicky...i know where you are coming from believe me! all them questions i was asking untill last night and knowing what its like to not know i'm gonna babble on a bit...hope it helps and you don't get too bored... lol

first the differences from what i understand....Lucid dreaming is where you dream and something triggers you to become aware that you are dreaming, like i was dreaming and just saw feet running towards me, no body!? lol i was like what? oh wait im dreaming cool! lol

Astral and OBE are similar, they can both be on the earth plane except OBE is real life, so you can see what people are doing and real events as they happen....(i really wanna do that, cuz then u can see someone like cooking for example, ask them and conifrm, real proof to me) and then theres astral which i believe is made up partly of other worlds?? (never visited) and your memories or your surroundings, so like you can be in ur house only because you know what your house looks like if that makes  any sense? way to tell difference...inconsistencies.

my feelings of it happening were i had a body...it felt real but also felt very lightweight and its like you can't feel it like your physical body but you know its there? if that makes sense. My thinking process was suprising clear compared to like lucid dreaming where i could not control what i wanted to do which was annoying and not helpfull. I must say tho you don't think absolutly clear...like at the beginning i was floating around of my side exploring my room, going though my bedroom wall...i didn't think to stand up, too preoccupied...but i was definaly thinking.

at one point i want to go to my bed and ending up heading towards the wall so i was like no! that way and i did. but then i got to my bedroom window, saw the trees on the playing field (couldn't see beyound it was just grey) and jumped out to them...all because i wanted to and it was fun!

The seeing was weird, some of the OBE's i could see in them, some i couldn't and some i couldn't untill i opened my astral eyelids!? lol, only way to explain lol. The way i saw i can only describe as it was dark (nighttime anyway) but also a little fuzzy, but on the whole clear...in light its even clearer. you could say its almost as good as real eyesight..slightly less but with that tiny fuzzy effect. Thats another thing i didnt seem to have much awareness to the side of my astral eyes, maybe i was concentrating to much or limiting myself i dont know...thats i wanna explore more!

The only time i noticed a sensation in my astral body was when i tried to stand up if you remember from my first post. my feet went all fuzzy and kinda tingely and i actually felt them astrally i guess.

another thing i knew you didn't have to but i was attempted lying face up arms spread and legs not touching but in a stright line...lol..the classic position. i had a mental barrier that, that was the only way. It isn't don't be fooled! you can be in any position you like, just be comfy and relax..which is the key.

another thing how i know its about to happen is i got a rushing in the eyes...this is happened before but i got too excited! some people get too afraid..believe me there is nothing to be afraid off...you can either ignore it...or listen to it and try to analyse it (taking your mind of the emotions of experiencing it)...i find if emotions are brought into it just before seperating you will lose it...like me getting excited or other people getting scared.

One last tip, keep trying but also have breaks, don't try every night, you need to just sleep, and when i did just try to sleep it happened! lol...but keep at it, thats what i failed to do but thankfully im now 110% commited.

All the best and can't wait to hear from ya, if you have any more questions please ask, i'm willing to help ya as long as it takes, mainly cuz i love it now! lol and wanna share! Speak to you soon,

Ryan

I havent expeirenced any light from myself...i could see ok because at the top of my door is like a window gap and hallway light is always on..i guess this is how i could see....

...the self illumination is interesting and i'm sure in Bruces book he has spoke about this...someone will have to confirm it...its gotta be in his first book though.

to me if you felt fully consicious you were having a astral projection as you were in your house but what you remember it as...

the inconsistency was the fan moving, if it was OOBE (real life) the fan wouldn't of been where u wanted it to go to f u see what i mean. Because it was astral you could change it..unknowingly tho but it still wasnt consistant.

did ou not feel any effects of seperation..in my experience, and sum1 pls correct if worng...if your going to have an astral projection or an OBE you even without relising you were leading up to it like me...suddenly gain awareness just b4 etc and hear the rushing sound etc?

hopefully someone can comment on self illumination tho..not too sure on that sorry!

RYan

Ryan, I only OBEd on three occasions.

The first time, I paniced upon hearing
the rushing sound and didn't spearate.
I could just swing my astral hands that's all.

The last time I OBEd I saw a man standing
outside my window like a bouncer or body
guard. That was months ago.

- Chops

Nah, wasn't scared.

I have had dreams of flying and
dreams of being dragged along.

According to a book I have, it's
the movement of the astral body
while you're asleep.

Rushing sound ... I don't know.
Perhaps the blood pumping in
your ears?

- Chops

Happy dance, happy dance....

So glad you had such a great experience, Ryan.

I have experienced the self-illumination in a guided meditation.  I saw my own golden "glow" and that was interesting.  It's even better sharing it with those around you.

love, blink

.....just add me to the list of astral travel. Let me first say, that astral travel as it is talked about in this thread, hasn't been an interest for me to try...not at this point in my life anyway. It is interesting to read about it....but not for me to try. However, for some reason, I don't seem to have a choice of when I get to do this.
I was being a couch potatoe this evening.....watching cartoons with my granddaughter...my back was really hurting from work today and I just wanted to rest for awhile..not sleep, just relax. I dozed off a few times..but my granddaughter would jolt me awake every time...she loves to talk. I know that at one point I was just laying there curled up and half dozing and half talking to her. What brought me to my senses was this sudden rushing sound in my ears and in my head. Just like it has been said here alread, the sound was deafening. It wouldn't go away....I believe I was conscious and not half asleep....and it was like I was paralized and couldn't do anything to stop this noise. I couldn't move or anything...I was literally laying there, fully aware of this sound and not able to stop it. I don't know how I managed to get it to stop.
Never in my life have I heard such a noise....and honestly, I am not so sure I want to experience this again! It was scarey....and I don't even know what was scarey about it! I was just scared! I think I was so scared because I thought I was dying......don't laugh! I was aware that there was very little breathing going on and I even remember being aware that I couldn't hear or feel a heatbeat or pulse anywhere in my body.....I guess that is why I thought I was in the dying process....
Is this the beginning of astral projection? And if it is....why is this happening when I am not even looking for it? And here is the big question: If this is what it is.......and I suddenly end up out of my body......how the heck do I get back into it??? Is it possible to get permanently stuck out of your body??
How are you supposed to know when to go back to your body...and just how to get back in?? What if you can't get back in?? And is there something that can happen while you are out of your body that can prevent you from getting back in??
I am just a little concerned about this now...just because I may not be able to have any control of this (when I am going to go out on a trip...)...if this is actually what is happening......if I have some answers, maybe I won't be so scared....and hopefully I won't get lost out in the ozone somewhere........and why is this suddenly happening...it's not like I am looking to experience this.....( 'why me?'  !!! )