In juggling some of the topics brought out on this thread, I feel a need to somehow tie them together into my experience with Bruce’s CD exercises.  Starting with OBE’s, whether they’re astral projections or merely lucid dreams, I’ve found that they’re fun to fool around with and that the hardest part is to realize that they are a normal part of being in a body and that they happen automatically, especially where I am overwhelmed or overtired.  When I wanted to actually learn how to do them, I read books, which then, due to my strong desire and intentions, prompted me to have my first OBE and lucid dream experiences.  I would get a thrill at being able to recognize that I was flying over the Australian pines surrounding my home in Florida and that I was able to go as high or low as I choose to.

At that point, I wasn’t really aware that I could ask for a guide or that I could safely leave my general area without harm.  I also remember an exceptional experience where I entered the inside of a living tree trunk and was able to “zoom” in on the cellular structure and then “zoom” out, back and forth till I got the idea that it was real on another level and that I was in control. It was much like some of the experiences described by Rosalind McKnight in her 1st book and in Monroe’s mention of similar explorers plant experiences in his books that I later read.  I also noticed that the colors, during this experience, were so much more rich, vibrate, and alive then the ones I live with in my C1 consciousness.  Awesome! 

At that time, I also had a sort of combo OBE-precognition experience where I greeted my husband when he came home from work only to find that I couldn’t move my body because I was still “napping” in bed.  Once I realized this, I slowly woke myself up and then the whole scene repeated itself but in C1 awareness duplicating his homecoming.  Every sound, word, and the order of things was exactly the same as before.  At the time, I remember excitedly commenting that I just had one of those wheeyew experiences I had read some much about.  What a gift!  Looking back, I suspect now that these experiences were just laying the groundwork for me to get used to the feel of being in an altered state and to be able to sense the shifting of gears from C1 to the other levels, and learning how to do this all with intention and, finally and most importantly, to not be afraid when did I feel these shifts. 

The next items brought into the thread with which to juggle were Buhlman and religion.  Right after responding to Boris, I went to my library and pulled out Buhlman’s, The Secret of the Soul. I came across his quote of Maslow’s from Religions, Values, and Peak Experiences, “The very beginning, the intrinsic core, the essence, the universal nucleus of every known high religion…has been the private, lonely, personal illumination, revelation, or ecstasy of some acutely sensitive prophet or seer”.  IMO, the time has come in our evolution to realize that those seers and/or prophets are us.  They’re no longer just out there to be studied, researched, worshipped, or quoted they’re, just ordinary people, like you and me. Sort of reminds me of Bruce’s introduction to this site where he explains who he is and that we can explore the afterlife to gain more knowledge on our own just as he did and does.

But my main point is that now is the time for more of us to consider the fact that we have the potential and supported permission to be our own prophet as others have done before us and that we don’t have to really master anything as disciplined as a proper OBE or a high level meditation, we merely have to overcome our own fears of being curious about using this vehicle we call a body with its mind/soul in place, read the guidelines book, and follow the simple instructions on Bruce’s CD.  His methods really work to explore the non-physical levels and are about as simple as you can get to access altered consciousness and the world beyond the physical. 

Anyhow, that’s the way things happened for me to be able to follow Bruce’s instructions so effortlessly.  When I actually did the exercises, I also got a better feel for helpers and how they operate and that there was nothing scary out there because I had, throughout the previous years, done enough preparation through my reading to have a handle on who or what might be out there.  As an aside, I do not believe in devils, demons, or bogymen except as I might invent them and religion does not hold the attraction for me that it did before I became aware that there were so many of them-all valid as far as they go-but none can compare to direct experience of feeling love, practicing kindness or exploring the non-physical world while living here and now.

I also want to say again, that I truly appreciate this opportunity to be able to swap information and tales on this physical level with like mind-inquisitive souls from around the world. It’s funny how so many different paths have converged on this site of Moen’s.  I love it!


Much love and appreciation, Jean      

MD: you can get lottery numbers within dream, or inbetween state. I got four out of six, with the 5th just out of reach for me as I woke. raced to the 7-11 and played them and they came in. I had been practicing for several months to get them, leaving my mind blank for periods to get them...lol...I hated that. I started thinking about what life would be like if I were rich; would I just be a spoiled brat? probably. lol. I stopped doing it because a job popped up. the numbers are manipulated within the collective mind I suspect and people line up to be winners. there are winners who even win more than once which the odds are ridiculously high to be able to do that. the problem with lotteries is we can't all be winners or it wouldn't be a lottery, I want to find a game where we are all winners.
when you become a spirit, then is the time to ask yourself, which is the illusory world; spirit or flesh? you don't have to astral travel to walk the thin line between two worlds, sometimes it's just before you are waking up and you can still hear yourself talking to someone. love, alysia