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Pieces Don't Fit (Read 15675 times)
shawn_rowland2003
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Reply #15 - Jun 22nd, 2005 at 8:36pm
 
some of this yes but some of it not. JEsus said there would be death then judgment > aND heaven or hell never said anything about many lives
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Reply #16 - Jun 22nd, 2005 at 8:56pm
 
Shawn, what you've learned all your life is from the Bible which was written by man. There are so many misinterpretations in there. Remember what I said about belief systems.  Just stay open minded. Wink

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Reply #17 - Jun 22nd, 2005 at 9:11pm
 
True but i think of it this way> In the beggining there was one God who created the earth and us and down the line ppl and there views distorted it there is one truth
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Reply #18 - Jun 23rd, 2005 at 12:09pm
 
Hi Shawn-

You are quite right, Jesus said that there is death, and after death the judgement. I work with past lives, and I have found that to be folly accurate. Jesus had no need to speak of reincarnation, because up until Emperor Constantine revised the Bible, reincarnation was an accepted Jewish doctrine, as it still is. There is also a "Heaven" and a "Hell", in the sense that after judgement the soul often seeks bliss and joy inthe company of God, until sent forth again to learn more, or seeks a way to be "repaired" so that past errors of judgement (we call the "sins") will not occur. The true Hell is a state occupied by souls so arrogant, self-righteous and rejecting, they they prefer eternal lonliness and separation from God, to the opportunity to return to the Oneness as parts of the Divine. That is, hells are created to order by those in need of them. These people often also extend their hells onto the earth, preferring to rule in a private hell, making war on others, ranting and hating, fearing and exploiting, rather than simply admitting that they are not the all-in-all in any manner, and that God is superior in every manner, and they would do better to love and be honest about matters.

The term "satan" means "adversary", and refers specifically to the unruly self-seeking egotistical spirit of very young souls.  They aren't "evil", in the sense of having some spiritual power that can resist God, but they often are remarkably stupid! So they do things that get their works tossed onto the trash heap (gehenna) where they are consumed in fire and brimstone (that's what they burned in gehenna to keep the stench down). This experience has been well described by hippies who had a "bad LSD trip" in which they discovered their own insignificance, leading to fervent prayers for redemption and change.

The judgement is imposed by the part of us that is God and that seeks God, and thus is imposed by God, although by a roundabout process, in order that we might return to God. The Sankrit term "karma" (meaning "action" as in cause and effect) is precisely the same. The idea of an eternal damnation is, fortunately, a human idea that came along about the same time as Constantine, and was championed by Manes and other heretics.. There is no past life or astral travel evidence to support it. None. But it's still best to live as if there were.
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Re: Pieces Don't Fit
Reply #19 - Jun 23rd, 2005 at 12:11pm
 
ooops - for "folly" read "wholly accurate" - sorry
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shawn_rowland2003
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Reply #20 - Jun 23rd, 2005 at 2:34pm
 
I see but the bbible says hell is tourment forever.Eternally speerated from God , Im not arguing with you jsut stating what the bible says.What is your view on revelation ive studied it alot sorry if this is off topic.One more thing i remember bits of before i was born in this world i was wondering a good way to get in touch with my past lives> thanks for your help.
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Reply #21 - Jun 23rd, 2005 at 2:35pm
 
One more thing Where did God come from ? heh
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Reply #22 - Jun 23rd, 2005 at 3:57pm
 
God came from the light.  I saw him as he emerged.  Wanna come to his birthday party?

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shawn_rowland2003
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Reply #23 - Jun 23rd, 2005 at 4:09pm
 
You werent around back then mr satan lol he created us
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Reply #24 - Jun 23rd, 2005 at 4:26pm
 
True, but there are different places and times from which a person can look at things, especially when in the astral.  One can even step outside of time.  That is what makes god's birthday so tough to celebrate; there was no time at that time, so deciding exactly when to do it is almost impossible.

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shawn_rowland2003
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Reply #25 - Jun 23rd, 2005 at 4:29pm
 
True i got scared lastnight and slammed back in my body i want to step out of time though Sad
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Reply #26 - Jun 23rd, 2005 at 4:42pm
 
Well, what did it for me, stepping out of time that is, was focussing on the light.  That is not just any light, but 'the light'.  Your mileage may vary.

We are all different, using different methods sometimes to do the same things.  Whatever we may be presented w gets filtered through the brain, if we are going to remember it.  On it's way through, the brain adds images and stuff to it.

If you keep working on it, you will succeed.

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shawn_rowland2003
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Reply #27 - Jun 23rd, 2005 at 4:45pm
 
thank you and im sorry for calling you names on myspace lol i think you are the same person. lol taht is another thing i cant remember stuff well when i come back but im like im going to remeber this im going to remember this then boom  its blury lol
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Reply #28 - Jun 23rd, 2005 at 4:48pm
 
That's not me at mysplace or wherever.  I got your pm, but you didn't call me any names there, that i remember.  Anyway, no worries.

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shawn_rowland2003
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Reply #29 - Jun 23rd, 2005 at 4:51pm
 
i think i messed up this thread with my own babblings sorry folks
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