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Brendan
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Re: Our senses are greatly heightened after death.
Reply #15 - May 28th, 2005 at 4:14pm
 
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Yes, a very nice posting!
After reading your "we people here on this earth....lead a very dull and senseless life here....", it got me to thinking why on earth (excuse the pun) would any spirit in the Afterlife wish to (re)incarnate  here in the physical to learn more lessons and advance spiritually, when it would seem utter bliss lies There?
To my mind it would seem like a retrograde step from what it is capable of achieving in the Afterlife. Do we not all strive to improve our lives, live happily and do the best we can for all mankind, so why return to a "...very dull and senseless life...." time after time?
I know - it`s to experience so we can learn more lessons. So, why can`t those lessons be learnt There?

Also, who in their right mind would wish to (re)incarnate as a murderer, rapist, child molester, etc., etc? What lessons can be learnt from that?
Does it also mean that we ALL (re)incarnate at some time to do these foul deeds? If not, why just a small minority of the worlds population, and would any spirit really wish for this?

I know what I will do when I finally arrive there. Stay! Especially as this world seems to go from bad to worse. Not too many lessons appear to be learned along the way.

best wishes to all,
roger Smiley 
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I'd get an itch to test my mettle, to prove to myself
that I was a worthy entity (by my OWN standards, of course) and thus would choose to reincarnate repeatedly as part of a program of self-development and self-creation.
Perhaps those who reincarnate to do foul deeds, are "fools" who decided to tempt fate by reincarnating into a body with sociopathic tendencies, as a means of developing self-discipline/willpower but who "took a bigger bite than they could chew"? Who knows? Or maybe lost a wager with another "spirit"...
I KNOW what I want to be, so I don't think I'd risk becoming a molester, looney or whatnot.
In any case, "Heaven" is a place lacking in something basic to our existence... CHALLENGES, and tests of one's individual mettle. To stay there forever would be to stagnate, with no character development.
Plus, eventually having to be around others BRAGGING and STRUTTING about their earthly achievements would get to be too much (at least for me) and then YOU'D have to go give it a whirl... maybe even as a bet or something??? Another "spirit" says to you, "I'll bet YOU couldn't make it as a (fill in the blank)" and so you take up the bet, and reincarnate?
Just remember... existence is polarity. It's GOOD sometimes for "evil" to exist (though always better to OBSERVE it happening to someone else, than to EXPERIENCE it first-hand!) It keeps the good in perspective that way...
Imagine this... picture somebody who is smart, popular, and life looks full of promise...
And then at 18, he has a schizophrenia breakdown. He spends the rest of his life being abused in mental institutions and scrounging in garbage cans and sleeping in cardboard boxes when he's out of them, never knowing any but the most meager and fleeting of the pleasures this world offers, but getting a whopping daily dose of the MISERY. And he's crazy, but smart enough to KNOW that he's a waste of proteins, salts, and minerals...
Then he dies, and goes to "Heaven"...
If he never reincarnates, he'll never know whether he just got a bad break... or is he truly, AT THE CORE... a pathetic LOSER... worthy only of CONTEMPT from himself, and others???
That would haunt him forever (if he was anything like me, that is.) OTHERS might tell him, "you'd have done just as good as me if you hadn't got served a crappy hand" but he will never KNOW this... he'll have to take it on FAITH!!!
And FAITH, my friend, is PROFOUNDLY unsatisfying fare to live on.
So you see, reincarnation's there for a good reason... 2nd chances, my friend.

B-man
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Our senses are greatly heightened after death...
Reply #16 - May 28th, 2005 at 8:49pm
 
Could it be that choices to re - incarnate (a huge subject in itself) are regulated and limited by our current Spiritual gradings?
We can only express what we have earned, or try to reach out to?
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Reply #17 - May 29th, 2005 at 1:23am
 
Could it be that choices to re - incarnate (a huge subject in itself) are regulated and limited by our current Spiritual gradings?
We can only express what we have earned, or try to reach out to?
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I'd like to think that the afterlife is a bit less law-and-order-burdened than that... basically
I'm hoping it is an ANARCHY, with one's own
freedom of choice reigning supreme. Hold those
laws, and I'll take a pass on rules and regulations...
Jeez, I have to deal with that sort B.S. here on
Earth every day! (Here in my home state, we've
just had a mandatory seatbelt law passed... yup,
driving w/o a seatbelt is now a PRIMARY traffic
offense. Just warms the cockles of my heart to
know so many people care so much about me...
like they don't have lives of their OWN to live?
Oh well... I'll just hope THAT situation ends when
I die.) If I can't be Captain of my own ship here,
then I'd dang well BETTER be allowed to be so
on the other side!!!

B-man
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Re: Our senses are greatly heightened after death.
Reply #18 - May 29th, 2005 at 4:19am
 
Hi Brendan,

Actually I think we are the "Captain of our own ship" both here and there because we always have the freedom of choice.  You don't have to buckle up if you don't want to... you still have a choice. 

All choices have consequences no matter if we consider them good or bad consequences.  Lots of people feel oppressed by the rules of this world, but they really don't need to.  In everything there is always a choice and once that's realized, one can attain a great sense of freedom.  Right here and now.

Love and light,
Kathy

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Reply #19 - May 30th, 2005 at 1:56pm
 
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Also, who in their right mind would wish to (re)incarnate as a murderer, rapist, child molester, etc., etc? What lessons can be learnt from that? 
Does it also mean that we ALL (re)incarnate at some time to do these foul deeds? If not, why just a small minority of the worlds population, and would any spirit really wish for this?


Has anyone ever thought maybe reincarnation might only be for those deviants?...maybe that's what hell really is...to have to come back here because they didn't get it right the first time.
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Reply #20 - May 30th, 2005 at 4:44pm
 
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Has anyone ever thought maybe reincarnation might only be for those deviants?...maybe that's what hell really is...to have to come back here because they didn't get it right the first time.
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Or for people like myself, who have a low boredom
threshold and wish to "make themselves in their
own image..."
Complete Perfection would get perfectly tiresome
after a while, right?
Maybe that's why the material plane exists.
Maybe the "successful people", "beautiful people" the "alphas" and so forth are those who have become ADEPT at physical existence, possibly through many incarnations here..!
So much of what I see people writing here amounts to, "Oh,
this world is so awful, I want to go to 'Heaven' and stay there forever." But the fact remains, that this world is a WONDERFUL place for SOME people. Sadly, these people are often branded as "sinners" by the sufferers in this world and are expected to "rot in hell" after they die... Organized religions (notably Christianity and Islam) seem to revolve around this envy-driven prejudice.
But... doesn't that seem like... well, SOUR GRAPES, really?
Maybe such people should be trying to sharpen themselves up for the next time they get the urge to "go 'round again." Because I'm sure that even if it takes a nonillion (10 to the 27th power!!!) years of "Heaven" to thoroughly BORE them, it will happen to them eventually...
NOTHING remains static forever... that may be the only real law there is!
Do people even try to imagine what "forever" really means? Sometimes, I doubt it.

B-man
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