I'm not sure I know what I'm talking about in phasing but I'll give it a shot for the sake of conversation and maybe others will add to the thread.
I know you are conscious throughout though, unlike dream obe/exploration. the first time I did it was a surprise for me. I asked Bruce even what it was all about and he said it was phasing. it was at the time of the 9/11, several weeks after. I was curious if anyone was needing retrieval or if there was anything I could do to help. I'd heard rumor there were still ghostly figures being seen there. I started using the imagination which was my basic way to get there. just waiting for whatever image might pop up, then I would follow it. almost before I had verbally or set about to state my intention (I like steps to take, 1 thru 5, whatever, only sometimes the steps get bypassed, I assume this is phasing.) before I could chug along thru my steps a man's face popped up for the viewing, covering my entire inner tv screen of the mind we might call it. first time I saw this kind of thing in waking consciousness so I didn't dismiss it, I just kept looking at his features and try to pick up his feelings as assumed I was already at the locale I had thought I would "fly" to. since his face covered the whole screen, was wondering how to fit my form in there, let him know I was there. I fit myself in as a small light flitting in front of him, dancing, all the while trying to think how to get his attention, as thats your main job when retrieving. finally he notices me and grins because I'm like a bug admiring his face, admiring his devotion to the building he saw spread out in pieces around him. I keep asking can you see me? flit, flit, dive, I'm here! I'm here! we have ourselves a moment and I share his feelings and ask if he knows he's crossed? he certainly did, he said, but he'd kind of gotten lost a bit in the sadness and was taking a moment to say goodbye to what used to be. seemed he really loved working there, had some pride around it, some devotion. workers approached to him and that was that.
anybody else here that can talk about phasing?
love, alysia

To me phasing is a matter of changing your focus. This is what happens when you listen to a hemi-sync tape or when you follow Bruce's methods for retrievals/contacts. We phase/shift our focus many times everyday when daydreaming, etc. It's just an altered state of consciousness.

Love, Mairlyn

is phasing like when your sitting in a really dull lesson (lol) and you daydream without knowing it, suddenly your somewhere else doing it, but you only relise it when u snapp back??

except for phasing you actually know your've gone somewhere else. Is that possible because that would be really really good.

the thing i like it it looks and feels so real, its like you were actually there...mabey you are...

if someone could explain i'd be very grateful, cheers

ryan

Ryan said: is phasing like when your sitting in a really dull lesson (lol) and you daydream without knowing it, suddenly your somewhere else doing it, but you only relise it when u snapp back??

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sounds about right to me Ryan. and when u get there if you get a few surprise interactions that was not in your expectations, I believe you've made a genuine connection with what I call the collective mind where we are one in spirit. not only that when u snap back it still may not seem real to you what just happened. so you keep studying. later on you can find the meaning to you personally what just happened. it often tells me something about myself that I did not really consciously know before, for instance, it does tell me I am more than this body. that is the really cool part of it. love, alysia

Thanks Alysia!!  ...that what good advice!! I don't know anything on OBE stuff yet.....other than what I have experienced thru dream power. And you know, what you said on protecting yourself with white light....or love' against bad...I have found to be really helpful and true with things that I have had to deal with, as I have used these very techniques to protect myself when I go to sleep....although I don't have to do that anymore because whatever was chasing after me, seems to have given up. I had learned how to call on the power of God to help me during those times while I slept when these confrontations came up. You see, I am at my most vulnerable when I sleep, as with most of us I think....but I really believe that at one time there was a battle going on for my soul. And I was being attacked when I was at my weakest point...when I would sleep.
I didn't  realize that one could use the same techniques when attempting OBE. So...thanks for that!!!!!
Just as much as I believe in 'good'..I also believe that there is bad, or evil. I believe that these 2 powers are in confrontation all the time.....whether there is actually a 'devil', well, I don't know about that. Is that just an imaginary figure to symbolize 'bad'? But then why couldn't there be a devil....when we do acknowledge a 'God'?
I do know that we shouldn't be dwelling on evil or bad as we go thru life....but, I think that we should be aware of it.
Maybe I just babble too much!!!!!   

heheheee!! More good advice!!! Thanks Blink!! 

Very interesting, Ryan,

and particularly strange and vivid for a "daydream," so there must have been an important message there for you....

love, blink

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do you use any hemi-sync ?

I used to listen the the first gateway series, like wave 1, the first one and the second.

i think i will try them out some more starting tonight.

Hey Ryan-
Many years ago I was teaching a statistics class and I got to wondering where everybody went. The bodies were there, but often it was lights on, but nobody home. So evidently they were "phasing".  Ha! I's thesame place I used to go ... but that's another story.

Mystic Dreamer- Alysia's advice for protecting yourself is very much to the point. The spirit world has absolutely no power over us unless we allow it. Some spirits try to create fear in us so that they can use that to gain control, but unless you buy into the imges they cast, they're nothing but passing thoughts without any ability. You are not alone, I'm sorry to say, in having been forced to defend yourself from a sexual predator while asleep. However, that was a physical attack on the material body, and evidently you handled it. Psychic attacks while asleep are far less dangerous.

As an example, a few years back I attended a convention on the Queen Mary, and with my wife I stayed in a stateroom on board. (The ship is used as a hotel.) Just outside the cabin door was a cold spot in which there was a strong odor of burnt fabric, but it didn't extend down the hall, nor into the cabin. At night I was visited in my dreams by a half dozen children, ages from toddlers to early teens. They offered to play with me and have fun if I would agree to stay there with them. I refused, saying that I had my own life to lead. (This was an emotional response, not a conscious waking response.)  The kids were angry, and some seemed disappointed, but they could do nothing. My wife complained, in the morning, that she had slept poorly. The next night I got the same treatment, and gave the same response. The third night was spent ashore in a nice Best Western motel, where my wife was vastly more comfortable, and I had no further bother.  (Anyone interested in doing a retrieval there? Go for it!)

In the same way, so long as you are your own person, you are bulletproof. There are three simple ways to armor yourself. First, be joyful, don't let anyone rain on your parade. Second, be open minded, aware and honest, especially to yourself, even if it means learning things that are not what you prefer. On the other hand, don't get stuck in your head to the exclusion of feelings, or vice versa. Third, be loving. The world is like the human body, and has its share of arm pits and rectums. They are necessary, but you don't have to dwell on them. It's all lovable, but we can hang out with the parts that we prefer.

Carried to their extreme, these are the properties of God, and in each of us they are the degree to which we join God in the work of the world. Those scary spirits are generally terrified in themselves. Usually they have forgotten who they truly are and are afraid to find out. Your joy, wisdom and love is not only good protection for you, but it's a gift to them by your example.

dave