can someone exaplin to me what thier basics are for phasing ?

I've almost had a OBE, i got to the point of full body vibrations from within a deep trance, but the sensations scared me. this happen many years ago. i still meditate, i had a really nice meditation last week in which... my awareness kinda shifted. kinda like inbetween sleep and my awareness of myself was pushed against somthing.

i really can't describe it, but i am curious because this sounds much easier.

is the trick the intent? asking for help?

do you relax and create a mental image or just watch the colors? i would love to read each persons methods.... thank you,

take care and best wishes.

-shawn

woah that is really cool. is that your primary way of retrieving ?

i came really close once to having what many would consider a traditional OBE, but the vibrations were very real for me and i got scared. I'm going to keep trying to do basic energy work, I really like Robert Bruces NEW system.

I also have some hemi-sync, the first gateway series. i'm going to start trying those again, maybe just wave 1 for a couple days then go to # 2 ?

this is the hardest part for me, deciding what to do and sticking with it.

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i think i'm good at that

i know somtimes i can phase or kinda... zone out, stare at nothing and focus inwards... its kinda like relaxing to me.

i also daydream quite abit. i hope to soon be able to purchase the home study course and mp3 cd to help me out as well.

what do you all focus on when you are shifting your awreness ? do you look at the wall ? or must yo close your eyes ?

i used to try and stare at the wall then close my eyes.its not really staring as my eyes are not focused on anything...

Hey!!!!  Can I add something to this?? I don't know anything about this topic specifically.....but I was witness to a very scarey, scarey thing once.....oh...about 2o years ago. I was in a room with some friends....and we were talking about trances and stuff...one guy claimed that he could put anyone into a trance state. One of the girls said that he could never do such a thing to her because she said she had too strong of a mind for anything like that. He dared her...and she took the dare. They sat cross legged on the floor, facing each other for several minutes....staring into each other's eyes. Several minutes had passed....when suddenly this girl literally propelled herself backwards......TOWARDS ME!!!!!! (scared me half to death cux I didn't want any of that scarey stuff coming towards me!!!!)....she was still crossed legged....one of her hands was on the floor moving her while she held her other hand across her eyes....she was screaming hysterically. When she was finally able to calm down enough to talk about what happened, she said that she saw a very dark, evil shadow rise from within this guy and was coming straight at her.....she was hysterical over this...and I don't think she was ever the same again. We were all very scared over what we had seen that night....and, every one of us who were in that room that night and saw this, were all plagued with evilness around us for months and months later. I for one, became really sensitized to evil vibrations...and I could feel when there was something evil in a room, if it should be there at the time. You know, there were times that I would plain refuse to enter a room because of what I could feel. In fact, this is the time period when I was being attacked physically, in a sexual way (sorry....I'm not trying to sound crazy here...this is really personal stuff here, but the truth, no matter)....while I would sleep.
I don't know anything about what this thread is about....but I think that it would be safe to say that a person should be careful.....I think that our bodies become available to those opportunist seeking spirits when we place ourselves into any kind of meditative state....and you should learn some basic control techniques prior to pursuing this.

mystic dreamer said: I don't know anything about what this thread is about....but I think that it would be safe to say that a person should be careful.....I think that our bodies become available to those opportunist seeking spirits when we place ourselves into any kind of meditative state....and you should learn some basic control techniques prior to pursuing this.
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theres an unwritten law of the spirit realm that many do not know about until they start an intense study of it. this law is infallible. no spirit has access to your body, your mind or your soul unless you give them the power to do so by believing that they can somehow have dominion over your will. The word to say when confronted with anything fearful can be many different words with the same meaning. basically, the word is NO! Christians stand on Jesus's words if they feel weak, they rely on the fact that he has defeated this world so therefore they thrust their faith there. it works as I've done it.
theres other ways and words if it is protection you seek:1) placing a white light around yourself through the imagination can work well
2) Seeing it not there (Bruce's words) very good way of not believing in something, thus giving it no power. power is in believing in something.
3) try love zapping; what sends u fear, you project love back because fear and love do not inhabit the same space together.
4) utilizing the basic premise you must command respect from all life as to how you will be treated and not accept less than loving and respectful treatment of yourself, for you mystic, you deserve the best. knowing you respect yourself nothing can enter your aura which is not in agreement with your self respect, you will attract only friendly guides and helpers of a similar vibration to yourself. I'm not disputing your story; these things happen on occassion. I don't believe in evil though, I think your friend the hypnotist faced a challenge which he could not resist where he needed to prove his power. I hope he got over having to prove something as it was most rude to do this, even if she did sort of ask for it. we all have mind powers we haven't used yet.
love, alysia

Hi all,

Regarding meditation I have personally found it helpful to explore different types of meditation.  There are so many kinds of practices with different gifts to offer. 

If you are afraid of undue mental influences you can start with some guided imagery recordings which focus on very positive imagery.  These can help you personally in many many ways and teach you how to relax and better use your imagination.

Exploring quiet meditation such as Zen can be very centering and help you with concentration. 

Exploring sound with mantras in group meditation can introduce you to strong group energies. 

Recordings which include brainwave entrainment can help you reach specific states of consciousness.

I personally believe it is important to ground yourself in positive thoughts, always seek positive helpers and guidance wherever you go, and you will have no reason to fear.

love, blink

Heres something then...

The reason i describe the comparison of phasing with sitting in a boring lesson is because that was when the most real one i have ever had happened...

I was sitting in English class, it was a nice sunny day, and i just had my head on my hand rested and staring in front of me, and without relising untill i got back i was somewhere else..

I still remember it cleary, it was really vivid and so real which after what you said alysia makes me thik it was probly a real connection. anyway all i remember was getting hit by a truck, i dont actually remember the bit of getting hit by the truck, all i remember was being trapped agasint the wall and the font of it. It had the classic front white drivers compartment, then a seperate rear green open top cargo box type thing, reminded me of a waste disposal truck. Actually come to think of it, i was watching from like another persons view of me wedged inbetween this lorry and wall, but floating half way down the lorry and slightly up.

not sure if that makes sense but was real as. Just wondered what you guys think this could mean??

This happened just under 2 years back now.

cheers Ryan

Ryan said:  Actually come to think of it, i was watching from like another persons view of me

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I've had this sensation myself Ryan, as if I am watching events from another's point of view. sometimes I think of this as the "observor" part of the mind developing. heres another thought;  try to get your head around this: the premise is we are all one being experiencing being individuals. look at it from a spiritual sense. one spirit. when we fly or explore our innermost minds we could be living many lives all at once and this life scene may have happened exactly as you seen it. love, alysia