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kippen
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May 2nd, 2005 at 11:30am
 
i was just wondering if any of you have traveled to other planets while you are asleep?

once i traveled to jupiter. it was pretty interesting. it appeared to me like i was watching it on t.v. but it seemed pretty cool.

one another time i was floating outside the earth and i saw these little robots working in the atmosphere. it was interesting as well. they could just be dreams but it seemed real enough.

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Reply #1 - May 2nd, 2005 at 2:20pm
 
There was another planet I travelled to..in my dreams.  It was so real, its like a memory of a vacation. 
The ground had a "yellow" look to it.  I won't go into all the details, not real important..but there was a truck on the side of the road, unlike any we have here, with a name on it (like Ford or Chevy) that I could not read..
There were two people there that I know of here, on the internet..two extremes of belief.

I don't know that I've ever travelled around this solar system..though that would be interesting too..
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Reply #2 - May 2nd, 2005 at 6:00pm
 
See my thread "Visit to another planet" on Linn's forum:

http://www.spiritlinnusa.com/linns_forum/viewtopic.php?t=385

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Reply #3 - May 3rd, 2005 at 12:05pm
 
I once worked with an entity from another universe who got trapped here inside a human. It said that "the Light" was filled with the wrong kind of beings to go there, and the host body was the wrong size, shape and dimensional makeup.

Travel seems to go both ways.
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Reply #4 - May 7th, 2005 at 11:00am
 
this is intrigueing Dave. it's kind of a teaser for me. I presume this entity may have been your client? it reminds me of what bob Monroe said about his being from another planet and getting facinated with ELS and a series of dives into this marvelous Earth, forgetting all the while his other home for what is offered here. his sidekick kept trying to get him off the wheel when he went obe.

I do believe he succeeded. love, alysia...
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Reply #5 - May 9th, 2005 at 7:56am
 
Dave

It must have been an interesting case.  Quote:
It said that "the Light" was filled with the wrong kind of beings to go there,

I don't understand what that means.  Can you enlarge?  As you know, i claim to have seen the light.  Not that it made me any smarter. Grin

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Reply #6 - May 9th, 2005 at 11:37am
 
I second Mr Satan's question. Please fill in all the details. I am very interested.
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Reply #7 - May 9th, 2005 at 2:18pm
 
About the Entity from elsewhere -

I do hypnoanalysis - like psychoanalysis, but vastly faster, for those who can take the stress of change, and it includes past life etc as a normal part. As I recall it at the moment, Jim came to me with a request to be freed from prior dreck of a dissipated lifestyle, and to get reoriented. In the first session I noticed that he seemed to have a lot of internal scrambling. He said that he thought he had something else going on inside, so I asked, "Is anyone else there besides Jim?" I got an answer from someone who had been strangled in a back street in New York, and a handfull of associated spirit friens who had taken residence in Jim's psyche. These were common garden variety terrified entities, and they responded to reality therapy and went off into the Light.

There was also one entity that protested that this was the wrong kind of body and in the wrong number of dimensions and the wrong kind of space. I asked how it had come here, and it said that it was travelling between galaxies or between universes (maybe between two alternate realities?) and somehow had become stuck onto Jim. This world was not like the familiar home world, and was filled with the wrong kind of creatures, humans. I suggested that the solution was to continue the trip and go into the Light. The response was that that wouldn't work, because the Light (astral) was filled by the same kind of beings as the physical world. They were still of the wrong sort. After a moment's thought I suggested that although that might be true on this side, over there on the other side the entity would find others of its own kind. Go and look, and see if that isn't the case. The entitiy did so, reported that it was true, and went off to join the others of its kind.

I made this up into a fully documented training video for people teaching past life methods because of the number and variety of spooks Jim was carrying. I also followed the rest of his work with me, six more videos, but none as dramatic as this one.

Since the spiritual embodiment is a projection of the attachments by which we cling to self-definition, and the means by which we attach that definition into the definition set of our physical world, I'd say that in fact we're probably all identical at the root, but we project our belief systems in order to define ourselves and others in a way that characterizes our species, given its normal dimensional expression. In this sense, what I did was simply to suggest looking at things in a different way. It's essentially no different from Bruce's story of rescuing the man who was driving his tank forever, or the drowning man who was clinging forever to his chip of wood in an eternally hostile sea.

There are lots of ways to make stable realities, and we certainly have no monopoly on them. Given that it is mostly a matter of allowing our definition of self to be flexible, I see no reason that we can't travel wherever we want.

The topology of combinatoric space suggests that we will find roughly four levels of realities available, one in which everything is dyadic and polar, one in which everything is triadic (process, structure, relationals), one with seven dimensions, and one with 127 dimensions. Higher orders (the next has 10E38 dimensional vectors) have too many dimensions for us to readily make sense of them at present.

If we move into a seven dimensional space and assign three dimensions to retain our starting point, and alter the remaining three by twisting them through the remaining fourth
dimension, we might be able to move anywhere and still retain a physical trail by which to return home. My guess is that this is how OBE with the "silver cord" works. But thus far it's a guess.

If this idea could be operationalized as a machine, it would allow construction of physical vehicles of the same sort. It would also allow us to anchor "hooks" in the universe by which to capture the energy of its expansion, thus obtaining energy from the entropy of the expanding cosmos. If anyone wants a Nobel in physics, here's a good project! I've been piddling around with it, but have no solution because of the difficulty of translating our dimensional system into a transducer.

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