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Apr 20th, 2005 at 6:58pm
 
I want to share an experience that was my first attempt at a retrieval.  I'll just report it exactly how it happened.  Could some of you please tell me what you think and also maybe give me some pointers?  Thanks!

I sat in a chair and relaxed until I felt myself become very deeply relaxed but fully consciously aware.  When the first 2D black and white impression started to form, I focused my attention on it before it could slip away. 

I first saw a small window with light coming from inside the frame and blackness around the window.  As I focused my awareness on it, I became pulled into the image and suddenly felt like I was standing inside of a barn and the only light came through the small window.  The insides of the barn were all black and I was aware of objects but not able to see them because it was just darkness, blackness.  I was just observing but I wondered why I was inside of a barn.  Then suddenly I saw the barn doors open up.  I saw two children running out of the barn and kneeling down in front of the doors.  One of them had something in his hands and he held it down to the ground.  At this point the impression was still 2D and black and white, and I was still just observing and not doing any self talk.  The impression suddenly faded and I saw nothing. 

I still felt completely consciously aware and was disappointed that the impression faded.  I wanted to know more about what I had just seen, so with the previous image in mind I focused my awareness on remembering it.  It came back suddenly and again I saw the two children kneeling down in front of the barn.  I was just observing and not doing any thinking other than wondering what they were doing.  I suddenly knew they were trying to light matches.  Then I heard/felt/knew the word "fire".  I wanted to go toward them but the impression pulled away and faded, and I saw nothing. 

I kept trying to focus my attention on what I had just seen, and then next I felt myself going out a side door of the barn, to my right side.  I got a very clear 3D color visual of a short stone wall made from rectangular gray stones with rounded corners.  The wall ran alongside the barn, and I followed a path from the door along the wall.  (Seeing the short stone wall with such clarity reminded me of reading about Oliver Fox when he described his first lucid dream of seeing the stone pavement outside his home.  He noticed that the stones were turned the wrong way and it was then that he suddenly became aware he was dreaming.  The way he described his clear vision at this realization was how I felt at seeing the short stone wall because it was as clear as seeing with my physical eyes).  All this thinking made the image fade away again. 

Seeing nothing again, I started to pretend that I was talking to the children.  I sent out my thoughts that I wanted to help them and told them I could take them somewhere nice.  Then suddenly the next impression I got was another clear, color 3D vision of some large boulders and trees.  I began to wonder why I was seeing this and what it had to do with the other impressions I had seen.  (With that thought, I suddenly remembered the many trips to the mountains with my family as a kid, and my brother and I loved to climb rocks like these).  With those thoughts the image faded away, but suddenly another clear, color 3D vision appeared that startled me.  I could see a young girl standing in front of me.  She was around 8 and had long straight blond hair.  She was wearing a zipped up, powder blue jacket with tiny snowflakes embroidered on it.  She had her hands in her coat pockets and was swinging her body from side to side the way a kid does when waiting for something.  She was so close I could have touched her but I sensed that she didn't know I was there.  I also sensed that she felt she was waiting to go somewhere.  I got the feeling she was waiting for a bus.  This vision of her was so real, as if I was seeing with my physical eyes. 

I still was just observing and not doing much thinking.  It didn't occur to me to introduce myself or to will myself into the children's reality and play along with these images as if they were real.  But seeing her waiting like that made me wonder if she was waiting to go somewhere because I had sent my thoughts that I could take them somewhere nice if they wanted.  As I thought this, it surprised me to actually hear the other child, a boy, say "No, my mom is coming to get me".  I felt like I actually heard this, not just felt it!  I could feel the boy was standing off to the right, just out of my view, as if he didn't want me to see him.  I sensed he was maybe around 10, that he felt ashamed, and that he was also distrusting of me.  I then lost the image again. 

Since I had lost several visual impressions at this point I wasn't sure what to do, so I tried to remember any techniques I was supposed to be doing.  So even though I couldn't see the boy, I sent my thoughts to him that if he looks around and sees a light then that will be where he needs to go to see his mom.  I focused placing my intent to have a helper come to these kids.  Since I had no more visual at this point, I was pretending with my thoughts that this was a real retrieval and that a helper really would come help these kids.  Other than that, I had no more connection and no other impressions. 


Okay, that was it.  Now, all I know for sure is that the 3D color visuals were great, it was like seeing with my physical eyes.  The other impressions were not as strong visually but they came with knowing.  The boy's voice was a surprise and something I didn't expect.  Assuming this was an actual retrieval, I realize I should have done more but I was so taken with the visions that I felt like a deer in headlights.  I know I should have asked for a guide at the beginning or at some point.  I also should have tried to make myself feel as if I were in the children's reality so that I could talk to them directly.  That way I could have asked questions and gotten some "real" info.  From what I saw, I assume that the children were playing with matches and started a fire in the barn.  That is why my impression of the barn was that it was all dark and black.  Assuming this was a real retrieval, perhaps the reason why my other visual impressions didn't seem to flow very well was because I "clicked out" without realizing.  I felt as if I were consciously aware the whole time, even between impressions when I saw nothing.  But maybe some of the sequence of events skipped? 

Please tell me what your thoughts are.  Even though I don't have anything that can be verified as true, I think this was good practice and it definitely did not feel as if I were dreaming or making it up. 

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Reply #1 - Apr 21st, 2005 at 10:19pm
 
Dear Vicky,

Sounds like a wonderful first try.  I think you did a fine job. 

One thing you might want to think about is that even if the retrieval didn't feel complete, you can always go back and check on them again.  Bruce mentions finding a child who wouldn’t go with him when he first began doing retrievals, only to go back later, find him and help him along.

You could be right that you clicked out.  But since you seemed to be relying on the clear visuals to tell you what was going on, it could just be that you picked up on the events at various stages as your vision winked in and out.  I don’t often have clear visuals like you describe when I do retrievals.  Usually, I see things in shadow or even just sense them.  The clarity and color comes and goes although I occasionally get “television screen-like” projections with my inner vision (although these “dreamlets” usually occur when I’m in deep meditation). 

Next time you could also ask for a helper if it feels right.  But it sounds like you’re doing a great job to me. 

Keeps us posted!

Love and light,

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Reply #2 - Apr 22nd, 2005 at 8:55am
 
Thank you Jeff for your warm reply.  I am delighted to receive your encouragement! 

I believe you are right, I definitely was relying on receiving visual information.  Did that, in a way, hinder my perception of seeing as knowing?  Do you know what I mean?  I know that the visual isn't the most important way to perceive. 

In your opinion, do you think that I was perceiving events of what happened to these kids during their life, or was I looking at what was happening to them now in their current reality?  I didn't understand enough from what I saw to piece together a full story, so I feel there is a lot missing.  I will do as you suggest and try to find them again. 

I hope you don't mind my questions, but I really want to understand the dynamics of how this process works. 

Thanks so much!
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Reply #3 - Apr 22nd, 2005 at 12:38pm
 
Dear Vicky,

I think you can experiment with the clear visuals v. knowing to see what is reliable enough for you to follow the events of the retrieval.  It could be that you're gifted with clairvoyance and over time it might become reliable enough for you to use. 

In my experience (and others may have different approaches), when I first spot or am brought to the person I'm to retrieve, I get information in pictures and words that tells me a brief story about the person.   I may get information about their life germane to why they got stuck and about the manner of their death.  I think that's what you were getting when you saw the scenes of the barn and then the children in front of the barn playing with matches.

The clear picture of the girl and talking to the boy sounds like it was the actual contact.   Did you get a sense of what time period they lived in?  Also, and Bruce mentions this when he had trouble retrieving the little boy (Ritchie?), many children (including myself) were raised not to go off with strangers.  If you go back and still meet resistance, you might have to be a little more inventive in trying to get them to leave with you.  I think Bruce pretended he was an angel.  Another method you might use is a magic carpet.  Many children grow up hearing stories about riding on magic carpets.  If you produce one they might be excited enough to drop their reluctance and go with you.

Also, there are always helpers available.  Chances are helpers have been monitoring these children for a while and may actually have brought you there as your first exercise.  If you get stuck, ask for assistance.  You might have a helper pop in or even a relative of the children if one is available.  The right idea might "pop in" just when you need it.

I think it's so cool that you're doing this and getting so much already.  I think you're a natural for this type of work.

Definitely let us know how things turn out!

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Jeff

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Reply #4 - Apr 25th, 2005 at 7:32am
 
Vicky,
I pretty much agree with everything Jeff comments on, and would just like to add to his support for your further explorations. I suspect those kids were unreachable by "permanent astral" helpers and you were pressed into service as your vibration, being closer to physical level, would make you more visible to the children.

Keep practising and don't let doubt get a hold of you. Most of my retrievals are very vague visually and I've been doing them for years.

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Reply #5 - Jul 12th, 2005 at 5:17pm
 
Vicky,

  I finally read the account of your retrieval.  The experience you desribe is exactly why I teach this simple retrieval method.   It took me years to get to the kind of experience you describe as your first.  You are describing a classic retrieval experience and quite advanced in terms of information and your reactions.

  Thanks for sharing!

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Reply #6 - Jul 12th, 2005 at 5:44pm
 
Thank you so much, Bruce--I greatly appreciate your response and encouragement (as well as everyone else's)!  I am very excited about it and will keep practicing.  You are right, it is a simple technique, and you are a wonderful teacher.  The Guidebook is excellent!

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Reply #7 - Jul 13th, 2005 at 4:29pm
 
Hi Vicky. my ...

I agree this first retrieval for you is/was alot like my first retrieval and Bruce told me then to go back. I had the same doubts about it you do. I'd say the only differences in my first run out there and yours was, where you got the clear visual in color? or 3D? cool. I received the strong emotion from the retrievee on the other hand. he was yelling God help me; it sliced into me, the sound. so theres always the different ways to perceive the situation, but I'd say it was real. thanks for posting, it was inspirational to me....
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Wonderful first retrieval Vicky. Hope to read of more from you.

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