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You speak about unconditional forgiveness, how about the worst type of people who committed inhumane atrocities against humanity like Hitler? Should those people be forgiven too, don't they deserve their just punishment?
All fear and anger is a cry for help.
There is no one in this world, regardless of what they have done to each other who does not deserve forgiveness. The very idea of forgiving some people and not others, or drawing an arbitrary line where forgiveness ends is not Unconditional love but an act of fear that they are bad creations. A perfect being does not create bad creations nor does it make mistakes. Hitler's punishment may be the guilt he feels over the millions he killed from a false feeling of superiority rather than a divine punishment from God.
Hitler's punishmet would be in congruity to Universal Law, he will experience and equal and opposite reaction to what he has done, and this may be a psychological reparation, he will be made fully aware of what his actions have done to so many and how he has hurt so many, he will not be punished as an arbitrary act from God nor will he be punished forever. Hitler acted out from fear, his fears like any human are rooted in the lack of self love and this lack of self love and acceptance manifests itself with a protective layer of ego, his ideas of personal superiority was a manifestation of his fearful ego. Once we become fully aware and responsible souls the hardest thing we can do is recognize that we hurt another person. Hurting others is easy when we have blinders on to impair the hurt we cause from our actions, but in the world beyond these blinders(our ego) doesnt exist, hence he will realize what he has done with full awareness of how much pain he has caused each individual persecuted,..if anything the pain of knowing he has inflicted so much pain on others is worse than a hell of fire and brimestone, it is a hell of knowning how far he has failed to come close to expressing unconditional love, which is our creators will for us on earth. How we go about it, or whether we even choose to go about it is up to us.. We are like kids in a preschool, we make mistakes, some people make BIG spiritual mistakes, some make smaller mistakes, but a loving parent will always forgive the mistakes with the wisdom that mistakes are what causes us to grow. We all make mistakes, we all do bad things, some a lot worse than others, but without this experience, without the experience of relativity,love and fear, hot and cold, left and right, large and small, here and there, we would have no opportunity to make mistakes, with no place to go and nothing to do, existence would be a single, static, motionless awareness. But it is my belief that we do have mistakes, and we do have the choice to learn from them, whether we choose to learn and change is up to us, the Universal law of reaction will always show us when we are going astray with our fearful mistakes it is an automatic nudge for us to put us back into the right direction. However I would urge everyone to take piece of mind in knowing that in the end an Unconditionally Loving Creator forgives even the worst of mistakes made by his creation because the creator sees the big picture of evolution and knows that mistakes are part of the experience to building an evolving soul. Just as we as a world evolved greatly as a result of the devestations caused by World War 2, so does a fearful soul like Hitler evolve by acknowledging and coming to grips with his personal devestations. Perhaps perfection is not always doing the right thing, perhaps in the smaller picture thats what perfection appears to be.
Trying to live by a standard far above what we are currently capable of and being punished if we fail. But I would argue that in the bigger picture, that perfection is accepting the neccessity of Good and Bad, and knowing they are vital to each other. Perfection is blessing the good and bad. Perfection is unconditional love, unconditional love is knowing that the bad is neccessary for the good to know itself and blessing the bad for giving the good that opportunity. In the end everything and everyone is good and perfect created in the likeness of our creator. But perhaps like Shakespeare says "All the lifes a stage, and we are merely actors" Perhaps this time around we cast ourselves as the good guys because last time we played the bad guys. And in coming onto the stage of life we caused ourselves to forget all the good we know in each other, so that we may fully experience the dynamics of the 2 polar differences of Love and Fear in their fullest expression. Perhaps all the Bad guys ever needed was for some good guy to remind them of all the good they had in them. In the end, it is in the nature of our creator to forgive all his creation, . The only question is will the creation overcome all he has done and choose to accept respnsibility for how much hurt he has caused and then learn to forgive himself of it? When we come to full awareness of the hurt we have caused it is the most difficult thing in the world to forgive ourselves.
We must realize that some bad events are intended to happen not by God but by humanity. Since we are given a free will are are free to do what we choose without interference. Hitler for example was a reflection of what was going on in our world at the time, it revealed to the world in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS how Spiritually unevolved we still were, while being very technologically evolved with ehough weapons to destroy our world. Hitler could not have existed in a world where humanity found its peaceful nature. Hitler words could only be taken to heart by individuals and a nation who harbored incredible hatred, anger, resentment, fear ,jealously and racism towards others. Hitler's words could only be heeded by a world where racial superiority was not only accepted by commended by the masses. The heartless massacre of 20 million people was in short a wake up call to the world to let us all know just how far we had actually evolved. It challeneged our status quo in which we were at the time too content with. It challenged our currently morale beliefs at the time (especially racism in the United States) our cultural stories (survival of the fittest) and our religious beliefs( many nazis including the SS also believed in Jesus Christ). Sometimes an individual like Hitler will come along and give the world a wake up call, that is what Hitler did, not intentionally but nonetheless it was a wakeup call to the rest of the World.
It was a wake up call to African Americans who were still second class citizens with no voting priveledges and went to fight and die in the white man's war.
It was a wake up call to the Women in the United States who realized they could take over the factory jobs their men held before the war and do an equal job.
It was a wake up call to Japan to show that their brand of fanatic Nationalism, racism and inhumanity towards fellow humans would not be accepted by the world at large.
It was a wake up call the the Germans that said Racism, and Anti Semetism would no longer be accepted in this world.
It was a wake up call to Chinese Americans who were herded into gathering posts(Santa Anita Race Track) and internment carmps along with the Japanese because all us Asians looked alike to the white Americans.
It was a wake up call to all Patriotic Japanese Americans including the 442nd who fought valiantly for a country that considered their kind not only 2nd class citizens but possible spies for the enemy. Interestingly enough the Neisei 442nd was the most decorated Unit of all American Units fighting in World War 2, for bravery valour and courage under fire.
It was a wake up call to the Scientists at Los Alimos who created the first nuclear bomb not knowing if the fission chain reaction might continue forever and destroy our entire world.
It was a wake up call to the world to know that man now possed the technology to create weapons that could detroy the world many times over.
We all know Hitler was a brutal dictator who killed tens of millions in inhumane ways. The more important question is what was the world like before Hitler came along and shook things up?
In 1939 - 80 Years after the Civil war, blacks were still little better than slaves in the United States. Blacks had no voting rights, separate faucilities for restrooms, restaurants, schooling, and countless every day activities.
In 1939 and in WW2 black soldiers who inlisted in the Army were generally not allowed to fight, with few exceptions, they were given jobs as truck drivers, and cooks. They were only given jobs as engineers when they could prove that they were "intellegent" enough to operate "complicated" machinery.
In 1939- Although Jesus preached about being brothers to everyone, the popular majority of Christians and Catholics still treated blacks, chinese, jews, and any non whites with racism and prejudice and disregarded that portion of Jesus's message. Interestingly enough, even though it was accepted for white cathlolics to feel superior to blacks, jews, and chinese, Catholics themselves were looked upon by the majority Protestants as being lower class citizens and people in the eyes of God as well.
In 1939 Racism and Anti Semetism was a common household thing to the majority of white families in the US, in both the North and South.
In 1939 Women were also treated somewhat as second class citizens, they were not found in professional jobs such as Doctors, Lawyers, or even factory work. Women were far from being seen as equal to men in every respect.- Without world war 2 and women proving themselves in the munitions factory that armed the Allied soldiers, how much longer would it have taken women to enter the work force?
In 1939 Racism towards asians Chinese Americans and Japanese Americans caused them to be placed into Concentration camps. The Japanese were thought of as spies for the Rising Sun while the Chinese people were also tossed in because the white people couldnt really tell the difference between the two and didnt care much to find out. The German Americans however were free to go about their daily business including many German Americans sympathetic to the Nazi cause,because racism went by the color of your skin not nationality or allegiance to country.
In 1939 Germany and Europe Hating Jews was nothing new or extra ordinary it was a customary thing for the past millenium. It was popular to hate Jews, Gypsies, Gays and Handicapped people.
In 1939 Germans held an belief in the superiority of their blood, they believed they were a master race because.
In 1939 Western World blonde hair and blue eyes was thought to be superior to all other variations. This belief is still somewhat held today but we have come a long way since then.
In 1939 Japanese held a fanatical sense of superiority over the other asian races and even white races, they believed they were better than Chinese, Korean, Phillippino,Thai or any other western race.
These are just a few choice examples of what the world was like before World War 2 brought these issues to the attention of the world. People lived their
lives accepting the status quo as ok and never gave a second thought that there should be any change to their system of living. Then Hitler came along
and shook things up and as a result of his henious actions and World War 2....
Woman soon knew that they were the equal of men in the work force, this started the trend of women working and stepping away from the housewife role.
African Americans and Japanese Americans who fought Valiantly in World War 2 demanded their equal respect from the white majority for having fought bravely and died for their country.
Anti Semetism in the US ceased to become common place among the whites. A greater Tolerance for all races and religions was then taught to children.
Genocide of a race was agreed to no longer be tolerated in the world community.
A new nation Israel was created in Palestine which gave the Jews of the world a place to call home.
Japan gained a new found respect and admiration for the west. It was the doctrine of an American General during occupation and recovery
that guided Japans automotive industry into becoming a dominating factor in the worlds automotive industry.
It makes me think, without world war 2 would antisemetism be more prevailant today? Would blacks even have the right to vote? How much
longer would it have taken for women to enter the work force? Would racism towards asians living in the US still be commonplace? Would I
even be allowed to live in the United States, or would I even want to live in a country that is racist towards non whites? My conclusions is
sometimes the fastest way for the world to evolve as a whole is through war. This is because War brings up issues that the individual nations
like to keep quiet. War forces a nations dark secrets into the lime light, where peacetime forces the underpriveledged memebers of a nation
to go on living their daily lives and enduring spiritual injustice.
In history people like Hitler are sometimes needed to give the world a wake up call and show what evil can possess mens hearts. While
revealing Hitler's evil war causes our own evils and prejudices to surface into national and world attention that we previously ignored. Just like our character can only be forged through difficult
circumstances, the character of the human race can quickly be fine tuned through world wide calamity. How far have we come as a nation since
Hitler? How far have we spiritually evolved as a world? Sadly,for reasons of racial superiority, even today we don't live up to our word to stop Genocide.
Are we overdue for another calamity or world war that shakes up the earth in order to bring us closer together? Or do we now choose to evolve
willingly and take our past mistakes more seriously.
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We can only love our neighbor to the extent we love our self. We are already extending to our neighbor how we feel about our self -- that is the problem to having no peace on earth. Most people are so filled with fear, low self esteem, anger, anxiety, lack and separation — that this is what we are giving to each other and perpetuating in this world we co-create.
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Friday, March 25, 2005
A Promise is never Forever
I propose that the human race stop making promises they can't keep. People somehow feel obligated to make false promises or don't understand themselves well enough to not make certain types of promises. Promises are potentially dangerous because they set up an expectation that the words will be carried through.
All long term promises are trouble regardless of what the topic is love or business, contracts are broken licenses are enulled. The biggest problem with making promises far into the future is that people are constantly changing their minds! Yep...the mind is a tricky thing we are swayed from one moment to the next by emotions, situations, circumstances that sometimes seem entirely out of our control. Call it the tides of life, chance, luck, fate whatever...we don't know how they will think or react from one moment to the next. Inevitably people end up changing their minds as new circumstances come along an old love from the past, the tragic loss of a partner, a new job opportunity across seas, or even something as simple as a stupid argument that sparks anger and frustration can cause an end to a promise. I think there is a more important question to ask ourselves in regards to promises. If someone has made you a promise and fails to keep it,...Why would you want them to keep it? Take the example of the relationship you have been in.that a promise was made and not lived up to. Perhaps your love interest found interest elsewhere but months before had promised you a long loving future together. Why would you want your ex to live up to that promise if that is no longer their desire? What fun would it be to have someone who no longer shares the same feelings for you live up to a promise out of duty
Often I have heard friends and people everywhere on tv or in books talk about finding your "One True Love" anyone who has been even in 1 relationship taking the time to reflect on it with open eyes knows there is no such thing. Anyone who has open eyes and sees the appalling statistics of 50%+ divorce rates knows that is just an illusion that is bound to cause more hurt than good in the long run. Sorry friends, but we are not here on this earth to find our "one true loves" in the end our purpose has more to do with learning to like then love ourselves more and more. Only to the degree that we like/love ourselves can we unselfishly like/love to others. Only to the degree that we accept our faults, shortcomings, mistakes own up to them and eventually learn to forgive, accept and possibly one day laugh at them can we overlook the faults, shortcomings and mistakes of our friends and peers. There is a lot of danger in labels because each label we have we associate with an unconscious expectation.
For instance...many people associate a promise of "forever:" with emotional security. They think...well my boyfriend or girlfriend has promised me we will be together forever., then they feel safe to imagine about a future marriage, kids, pets, and a house. Soon the words "forever" take greater effect over the mind and we start getting a false sense of security on our relationships. There is really nore real security in relationships, even if you are married...just look at the statistics of how many married people cheat on their spouses, that on top of divorce will paint you a realistic picture about security even in our most sanctified of practices, marriage. The only security there is, is in knowing that relationships are inseure by HUMAN NATURE,.
But why are relationships by nature insecure? It all has to do again with the real reasons relationships exist. By now I hope you have the courage to see them for what they are...opportunities. Yes thats right, relationships give us opportunities to experience preconceived ideas we had about ourselves that we would not have a way to experience without experiencing. Also it is about learning to love yourself. Think of how hard it drives home a lesson about self acceptance when the one person you trust and love the most leaves you because they found someone better. Wow, what damage it would do to the ego. Many people however miss this lesson, in fact the vast majority of people miss this lesson or opportunity to learn to like and love themselves and accept themselves to a greater degree. This is because they want a quick fix to the pain or they want to slowly drown out the pain by other methods,...other love interests, alcohol, drugs, tv, movies, books, friends, anything that will take their minds off a situation that makes no sense, anything to take their minds of the hurt. When we do this..sadly we miss a golden opportunity to accept and love ourselves to a greater degree. Then shortly after that we quickly seek to rebuild our bruised and battered egos,. our fragile egos once again gets broken! Again we sadly miss another golden opportunity to realize what damage our large egos do to us,. The observer of life's truth knows that all the pain we have from a failed relationship is caused solely by one thing....our own EGO, AKA our Pride.
And I was always taught pride was a good thing.
There are many reasons for why we have relationships, NONE of them have to do with finding our "ONE TRUE LOVE" or our "SOUL MATE" regardless of what prime time tv, pop music and movies have taught you. Another purpose for relationships is to allow both parties to experience Forgiveness as illustrated in one of my favorite Children's fable about life, I hope you find it as insightful as I have.
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