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Friends:  These contacts are a good example of how retrieval can be not an immediate option for the would-be retriever, of how trust has to be built and obsessive needs catered to, and finally, how every soul's post-mortem agenda is as valid as any other's and must be honoured by the sincere helper.
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Hunter S. Thompson:  contact Feb23/05

Getting focused while listening to a hemi-sync tape, I put a call out by shouting his name over and over, only to hear Spirit reply that I'd contacted him the night before while sleeping/obe and that I should use 'state specific memory' to bring the experience back into focus.  This I then do.

Hey Hunter how's it goin'?

Just fine, my friend, just fine.  I figured it'd be fun, but not this much fun.

Were you depressed, was that what brought it on?

Nah, more bored, and sick of the bullshit.  Watching the Bush-Cheney gang was like wayching a bad rerun of Nixon's wrecking crew and seeing they were nver gonna be busted by those wimpass Democrats or anyone else.  So I figured it was time to check out.  I guess I got tired waiting for those end times to actually end.

But you ain't cancelled your subscription to the resurrection I see.  Here you are.

Actually I did cancel, years back, but they kept sending me the forms anyway.  Don't know about this being resurrection exactly.  But I'm still here alrighty.  Mighty pleased too.

Well it's my idea of resurrection, but hey, I wouldn't try to shove my belief system at ya.  Got too much respect.  You been flyin' yet?

Yeah, once I got shed of that body obsession stuff.  Lookin' down on old Hunter was even stranger than being out of my head on dope.  Amazing how many are out here floating around.  They're everywhere.  Space ain't empty, that's for sure.  And who are you exactly?  Dead, demented, divine, or maybe all three?

I'm just a guy out of his sleeping body for a spin about the astral planes.

Do that regularly do you?

Pretty much.  Lot to see and do around these parts.

Suicides no problem for you?

Nah, couldn't care less.  What you do with your body is your business.  I got a strict non-interference policy.

So if I told ya to bug off you would?

Sure.  Feel like some down time on your own, just say the word.

Awfully magnanimous of you friend.  No lectures or smarmy talk?

Nope, I'm not selling anything.

The what are you here for young man?  Haven't you got better things to do than to spin your wheels with an old reprobate?

Well actually a couple of your fans emailed me and asked if I might stop in and see how you were doing?  Plus I did kinda wonder myself.

Tell them the going has gotten truly weird.

And that I'm gonna help yout turn pro?

(He smiles) Got some tricks up your sleeve have you?  I'll warn you this here's one very old dog.

You've been flying through the Rockies already haven't you?

I did find myself hovering there.  You're not some kind of guardian angel are you?

Hell no.  I find the whole thing morally repellant.  (He laughs)  What most folk need at a time like this is a playmate.

Oh, I met a couple of them already.

To your liking were they?

Bit on the gooey side for my taste.  Wanted to show me a good time.  What I wanted was a fast time.

Have you tried rushing at the mountainsides and stopping inches from the face?  It really puts the iron back in your blood.

(I show him how to fly at dizzying speeds towarda mountain face and suddenly come to a halt inches away.  The experience energizes him out of his Hunter Thompson persona and he begins to bubble over with enthusiasm.  Sensing that this excitement is enough for one encounter and that he has a lot of earthly stuff to work through, I leave witha brief, casual farewell, never having mentioned focus 27 or the magnetic draw to funerals, and other post-mortem tips I regularly pass on to others.  Very much a 'guy-talk' kind of contact, but that's what a lot of men really need at first.)





Contact2/April7



After focusing, I call his name and am immediately drawn 'down' from focus 27 to focus 23, the realm of the recently deceased and earthbound.  He appears in front of me.  I offer my hand and introduce myself.  He shakes it diffidently and asks if perhaps he has not had the pleasure of my company before?  His manner is a tease of my correct gentlemanly approach, which is, in itself, a bit of a pose.  I mention my earlier contact with him, assuming that there's been several since and he might not recall.  Those flying stunts were fun, he says, he resorts to them when he's a bit bored.  How is that guns keep appearing in his hand?

Because, I answer, your your thought of them automatically produces them, and since they were a big part of your life, they are almost always somewhere just below the surface of your thoughts, ready to pop up.

I think he understands, but there's a residual feeling of being witha man who isn't comfortable being told something he doesn't already know.  But then, a lot of men are like that, on earth or in spirit.

I sense that he's hovering about his property in Colorado.  Out of love for the place generally, the trees, the hills, the creeks, the creatures, and his wife, who seems to still live there.  I mention the fine appreciation/memorial issue Rolling Stone published in his honour.  He snorts, semi-derisively.  Seems he feels they have portrayed him as a has-been, a star in decline.  I beg to differ, saying it was more than he had any right to expect.  He warms up to me immediately.  I suspect he likes a guy who stands his ground and does not grovel before reputations.

I ask him how he's feeling.  Not bad for a dead guy apparently.  There's more, I can feel it, but he's, well, reticent to expose his feelings.  I sense the guilt and shame of a suicide, but they're not overwhelming him.  He feels his action was, if not exactly justified, then at least an expression of free will.  A refusal to bow down and be taken prisoner by aging, a defiant assertion in the face of the bourgeois value of 'growing old gracefully'.  I say as much in words.  F**king right there my friend, and hands me a bottle of Wild Turkey which has just appeared in his hand.  You've learned how to manifest I see, I say grinning and taking a sip.

You are a traveller in these parts then?  He asks.  I certainly am, I reply.

I then make it plain to him that I could show him around, if he so desires, but that I feel he has further business right here.  He nods.  It's plain to me that he wishes to help his living wife in any way he can with fans, lawyers, agents, publishers, as there is much outstanding business connected to his estate ( movies are being amde of his books for example), and he's also been aropund his son and grandson, either as they visit 'here' (Woody Creek CO) or return to their own home.


(This may seem an obvious choice for the recently dead, but my experience in this sort of work
has shown me that there can be many obstacles to such a course of action.  Feelings of anger, resentment, unworthiness, and plain old ignorance can easily cloud or devour the dead one's aspiration to family contact.  Again this is further complicated by the living's grief magnetising the deceased, an attraction offten as powerful as gravity.  The astral body, in which the deceased move and have their being, is a veritable raft in seas of desire and emotion, being tugged this way and that by sudden and invisible currents.)

You like your astral body then?  Nice and light huh?

A fine piece of equipment.  They'll market it someday.  For extreme sports plus.

I smile and tell him that the next time he comes back to earth, it'll be way more like the astral plane than anyone now would ever believe.  He asks if I mean all that flying stuff.  Yeah, that and more.  Then he asks if he has to come back.  Right now it's the last thing he feels like doing.  I tell him I understand, but assure him that after some decades in heaven he'll be up for it.  He's still not sure he likes the idea. I tell him, no sweat, he doesn't have to trouble himself about it now.  We're still taking swigs from the Wild Turkey by the way.  He seesm to eb mellowing under its influence.  But that's his expectation..  For me, I know it's a thought form whose reality and effectiveness is determined byt he perceiver's desire/need, and although I'm quite the whisky fancier on earth, here I'm vibrating so fast, much closeer to the blissful state, its liquid fire is but a memory, although a sweet one at that.  But I act the part, as I would for others with different needs.
Thompson, an anarchic, creative nature, seems a natural for focus27, that's the one where no-one plays by the rules because they're aren't any, other than the 'golden' one - love your neighbour as yourself/treat others as you would be treated - but it's obvious he's not ready to move on yet.  I suspect he;ll be sufficiently patient and loving to learn the art of subtly communicating with the semi- or sub-conscious levels of his loved ones, especially his wife, who appears to my perceptions to be yearning for his input on estate matters.  I could give him some advice on how he might provide the energetic assistance that would enable her to more effectively move out of her sleeping body and into a communicative state, but I sense the issue is still a private one and not to be interfered with as yet.  Perhaps another time.  We chat aimiably for a while longer, during which time I mention how much I enjoyed his political journalism of the seventies, and how influential; his irreverence in the face of duplicity was to my emerging writer's consciousness.  He waves this off, as he has doubtlessly done many times before.

A final swig and I declare that 'I'll be off then'. He raises the bottle in greeting and I disappear, a little touch of what appears to beb tarditional magic, and is often quite effective in building a relationship of awe-inspired trust.  Well, sometimes.  We'll see.

(this second contact had its fair share of male bonding chit-chat, which I have trimmed for the sake of brevity)
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Reply #1 - Jun 4th, 2005 at 8:41am
 
Gordon- I love your retrieval accounts!  The Hunter Thompson one is even better than Spalding Gray.

In fact, it motivated me to retrieve Richard Nixon in view of all the recent publicity of Deep Throat.  Here is just a small excerpt from my contact:

Hello Mr. President, you don't mind me calling you Dick, do you?

No of course not, people called me much worse than that!

Yeah I realize.  I was wondering what you think about the identity of DP?

Well, just let me say this about that.  I never liked rat finks, be they Repub or Dem.  And old Mark Felt, he got so ticked off because we passed over him as FBI dep director that he took revenge by spilling all the Watergate beans. 

Yeah, there's a diff between leakers and whistleblowers.

You got that right!  First he nailed good old Spiro, but that wasn't enough.  He needed a bigger head on his stick.

Well, Mr. President, enough about that.  It's really just water over the gate so to speak...ooops no pun intended! 

That's ok, I like a good joke now and then, next to a good martini.  And by the way, these astral martinis just don't have the zing they used to when I was in the Oval Office, let me tell you that.

I imagine that's true, sir.  But I know of a place where the martinis are ice cold and made just the way you and Winston enjoyed them- they fill your glass with top shelf gin and then just wave the vermouth cork over the glass once or twice.

Wow, that's making my mouth water.  Say, just where is this place?  I'd love to go!

Sir, it's called The Park.  Don't be fooled by all the little animals cavorting around, just follow me and I'll take you to the Astral Bar and Grill, it's a little hard to find but stay close and we'll get there in no time.

You bet!  Lead the way my good man. 

At that point a black helicopter emerged bearing the Presidential Seal, and Mr. Nixon's face lit up as he climbed aboard with me.  Even the salute he gave the military officer seemed snappier somehow.

We landed at The Park.  An Honor Guard came out to meet us, making Nixon feel even more comfortable.  After the 21 gun salute and a stirring rendition of Hail to the Chief, we rode in an open convertible over to the Astral Bar.  Nixon followed me in, and we both ordered an extra dry martini, straight up with just a twist of lemon, no olive.

Nixon took his first sip and leaned back, looking more relaxed than the day he gave his famous Checkers speech. 

Say I'm gonna love it here, thanks for bringing me!

No problem Mr. President, my distinct honor and privilege.  And I want you to know that even though it's politically correct to vilify you, I for one know you accomplished many good things while in office.  You opened the door to China for one thing, and you passed many good pieces of domestic legislation.  Too bad all you're be remembered for is covering up a third rate burglary attempt.

Ah well my boy, scandals are what sells newspapers.  Don't let it bother you.  After all, if it bleeds it leads,  as they say. 

With that, I bid goodbye to Nixon.  I was honored to retrieve him and use all of the props provided by the Helpers to return him to his rightful place in the Afterlife.
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Reply #2 - Jun 4th, 2005 at 10:20am
 
Roger B,

My husband and I really enjoyed your take on Nixon in the afterlife  Grin and I admire your imagination  Roll Eyes.

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Reply #3 - Jun 4th, 2005 at 11:45am
 
Gordon, thanks for posting this. I feel it will help a lot of people here who wonder what happens to those who take their own lives.

Roger B. -- great retrieval of Nixon. I love it. 

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Reply #4 - Jun 4th, 2005 at 4:50pm
 
Hey Marilyn,

I think that RogerB is pulling our leg.  I could be wrong and if so, I deeply apologize but as I recollect, even though he went to the Monroe Institute and one of Bruce’s workshops, he didn’t quite trust that we humans could access the afterlife and do retrievals.  I imagine that he chose Nixon as the subject for spinning his delightful tale because of the type of work he does.  Either way, I still enjoyed his writing.  As far as Gordon Phinn goes, everything he writes resonates within me.  You may call me naive, ignorant, or gullible, but his creditability as a retriever is very high also.  I find much comfort in re-reading, over and over again, his Eternal Life and how to enjoy it.

Much Love to You, Jean


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Reply #5 - Jun 4th, 2005 at 5:16pm
 
Hey fellow Canuck... Wink
As usual a great read and informations.
Thank you for posting such interesting retreivals and please continue when you have the chance.
Met Deb A, the last time at TMI, she was there for "Essence" did not know she knew you.. Roll Eyes
What a great person, next time i go to TO, will have to meet and chat.. Wink
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Hey fellow Canuck... Wink
As usual a great read and informations.
Thank you for posting such interesting retreivals and please continue when you have the chance.
Met Deb A, the last time at TMI, she was there for "Essence" did not know she knew you.. Roll Eyes
What a great person, next time i go to TO, will have to meet and chat.. Wink
With love friend
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Thanks Romain, & glad you made it to Monroe.  yeah Deb's a good friend, infact I'm getting some advice from her tonight on a subtle and difficult distance healing case I'm working on.  Yes, by all means let me know if you're coming to the big t.o.

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Reply #7 - Jun 7th, 2005 at 7:03am
 
Roger, what a fun retrieval !  But I wonder if you're pulling our legs on this.  Can't see Nixon tripping to The Park quite that easily....but I've been wrong plenty of times before.
Perhaps you feel the "ease" of my contacts/retrievals is too easily come by, that I should be showing more sweat, frustration and effort.  Well I went through that stage years ago.  In fact I went through all the stages so well described in Bruce's first book.  Just like him I was once desperate for verification.  But once you get a few (and I only ever did get a few), you see that it's an attachment, a crutch, something to stave off doubt for just a bit longer.  And you see that doubt is what you have to release. Accumulation of verification only chips away at it, it never demolishes it.  You have to demolish your own doubt by your very own act of will.
That act leaves you in the place of "your belief creates your reality", which is not a comfort zone for everyone.  But I ask you, why is "your doubts create your reality" a comfort zone for so many?

best, gordon


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Reply #8 - Jun 7th, 2005 at 7:08am
 
 As far as Gordon Phinn goes, everything he writes resonates within me.  You may call me naive, ignorant, or gullible, but his creditibility as a retriever is very high also.  I find much comfort in re-reading, over and over again, his Eternal Life and how to enjoy it.

Jean, I'm very touched that my reports of my experiences have meant so much to you.  That really is very gratifying.  I hope you enjoy the sequel (out winter of 05/06)"Eternal Life: From Henry To Higher Self".

best wishes, gordon phinn
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Reply #9 - Jun 8th, 2005 at 10:21am
 
Yes Gordon please keep posting.

I archive a lot of your postings because they are worth mulling over and digesting.

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Reply #10 - Jun 11th, 2005 at 5:41pm
 
This has been a crazy wonderful stressful week.  Bruce gave me feedback as well as Alysia, Romain, Marylyn, Lucy and, of course, Gordon.  I got an Excellence Award at work along with a check for over $170 and a request from one on the newer CM’s for information about Monroe/Moen and the afterlife, he’s the one that keeps seeing 11:11 throughout the day and has started seeing 12:12 but doesn’t understand what either one means.  And as a special side bonus, son # 1 gave me his love dose, a call from CA just to say Hi.  I’m not a perfect person, as Boris once accused me of being in an old post—I love that guy, but just a regular “guy/gal” with all my moods, I get very tired at times and very irritable.  But at 60, I can start to look back at the experience called “My little life” and see the journey with it’s many complex patterns and realize that’s it’s taken a lot of guidance and support (including 7 years of going to bed with Hemi sync sleep tapes), like the kind you guys all give, to get me to where I’m able to do these two simple retrievals just by lying back, taking some breaths, and following the lead from Bruce.  RogerB, they weren’t anything like dreams or sitting there and thinking up a story.  They were really different.  I truly believe that this is our future and I’m proud to be a part of it.   I’m thinking twice about wanting to take my marbles and go home just yet because life is getting interesting again.

Alysia and Gordon-I sent for Newton’s book to hopefully tide me over till you guy’s books come out and I still have Bruce’s Guidebook and Cd’s to work with.  So if my job doesn’t get to me too much, I hope to have some more tales of my own to tell.

Thank you all, Jean-and most of all to Bruce, who set up this crazy board where my sons can, if they so choose, see what their mom does on her off times.

Love to all, Jean
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 Just like him I was once desperate for verification.  But once you get a few (and I only ever did get a few), you see that it's an attachment, a crutch, something to stave off doubt for just a bit longer.  And you see that doubt is what you have to release. Accumulation of verification only chips away at it, it never demolishes it.  You have to demolish your own doubt by your very own act of will.
That act leaves you in the place of "your belief creates your reality", which is not a comfort zone for everyone.  But I ask you, why is "your doubts create your reality" a comfort zone for so many?

best, gordon

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hi Gordon. this post is a work of art to me although I will try not to overdo the flattery I'm capable of. lol. I like the way you end with a question. Bruce does this too...it's a good lead as there is always a question when doubt is such an intrinsic part of being human. it's actually more than a question because it leaves a blank space in the mind. wow. that blank space is where things begin to happen. talking about being beyond all doubt, which is the title of one of Bruce's books...I too wanted it to be real. I wanted to be a retriever very much so..but it all seemed fabricated. then came verification I was actually picking up some guidance how to get beyond doubt, this within lucid type dream symbols. within a dream a messenger, a woman, gave me a note from Bruce. on it I was able to remember only one word I read. Novul, to mean "new." shortly after that I practiced the energy gathering exercise that Bruce posted up here a couple years back; I compared it to Robert Bruce's NEW method. (new energy waves) felt silly and new agey laying on my couch practicing bringing up energy through the soles of my feet up through the head and out into the world, spreading it over the world, singing the song in my mind "I am woman, watch me grow!" lol. I must have had help. it's hard to sit still. to make a long story short, it worked; that night I had my first "real" retrieval and went beyond all doubt with it. I posted it of course and rode a high for a few weeks that changed my entire being. I got verification of a town and a state and a person's name even, but all that didn't really matter that much to me, it was a different kind of verification that changed me and turned me into a bonafide retriever. it was a heart to heart message, a verification of the heart. what made me realize I am more than I thought I was, because I was able to lighten another's load; this made me more, when I experienced PUL. this is what made me high for two weeks like no drug ever did. I'm trying to make retrievals seem like natural events here that we all do, in a way, on a daily basis by committing random acts of kindness. I may not be able to get this message across, but I will try. it is so very true that doubts and belief work hand in hand and can even nuetralize each other, leaving you standing in one spot, and that is not comfortable either. on the other hand, and there always seems to be another hand, it's a freeing thought that doubts too create reality. it is appearing as a nuetral universe where anything can and does go, so it's up to us to become or not to become. but you are so right, an act of will is where it all begins. the will to understand. I didn't know this always. i didn't know when I lost my will I would regain it by trying to understand what retrievals were, then starting to see myself in everyone I met. thru an act of will doubt is released. Ernest Holmes would say of this "treat and move your feet." I would say to all treat yourself to a retrieval, and reveal the heartbeat of the universe reacting to your will to love beyond all doubt.
cheers my friend, I shall devour your next book. love, alysia...
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