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Reply #16 - Dec 6th, 2006 at 10:38pm
 
Hey everyone,

I only just noticed these topics up here seperated off, they have only just shown up so I thought i would make a post here. I'm sure ive experience exploration from sleep deprivation, when i think about my experiences to do with this they all seem random and jumbled and make no sense but were always very quick to enter through no concious effort on my part.

The one time i can remember which stands out was going to sleep when sleep deprived and finding myself OOB very quickly. It didn't last long at all before i found myself in the physical again. When i went to go back to sleep i found myself OOB again! which also didn't last very long. This happened many times in trying to get to sleep, there seemed to be no way i could just go to sleep! Each time i went OBE none of it made sense, it was harder to control, in one OBE of that night i thought i woke up in the physical again when i hadn't, and the next thing i know the TV was on full volume, and so was my stereo and alarm and the whole room was full of noise and movement and it shocked the hell out of me! Of course it wasn't and i relised when i returned to the physical. I also for the first time ever in all my explorations, experienced paralysis upon awaking which even though slightly off-putting at the time because i just wanted to get out of these OBE's as quick as i could it was a good experience to learn from. I also found everytime i went out i was chucked into a scenario not of my choice which i didn't understand.

I haven't read or heard anything about people exploring from sleep deprivation but from my experience it didnt seem to good at all! It may get you out possibly but i didn't feel comfatable neither could i explore as well, compared to being full of energy when going OOB.  This is just my personal opinion however. Maybe one day i will get the chance to explore furthur, but it wont be by choice!

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Reply #17 - Dec 7th, 2006 at 12:42am
 
Hi Ryan, good to see you here.  I just recently suffered from some lack of sleep and all it did was make me miserable and cranky!  No OBEs for me.  I had to really catch up on sleep just to feel normal again.  But I thought of you, as I know you always claimed you got more experiences with lack of sleep.
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Reply #18 - Dec 7th, 2006 at 1:09am
 
I think that lack of sleep always signals chemical or emotional or physical imbalance.  No, I do not recommend it for any sort of spiritual exploration, although I would definitely pay attention to ANY messages received, because imbalance, in my opinion, can be a GOOD thing. It can lead you into special places.  But for consistent, long term results, emotional and physical nurturance of the self is crucial.  In my opinon.  Sleep deprivation is NOT NECESSARY to force yourself into some kind of altered state.  Meditation, in all its myriad forms, seems much superior to me.  I am interested, in a novice kind of way, in bodily purification, i.e. fasting methods.  I think these types of experiences can be very helpful in focusing the body, mind and spirit. in a directional sense, in the right circumstances.  However, letting go of "purification" rituals, in any sense, can also be extremely helpful in the right circumstances.

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Reply #19 - Dec 7th, 2006 at 11:07pm
 
I had very uncommon (for me) visual perceptions when I relaxed for mind-journeying when I was sleep deprived, more than once. So it does something with me, but I too think it's not the real deal for regular exploring.
But when insomnic anyway, I would experiment with meditative techniques, so it would not be wasted time, and/or you give your body some degree of relaxation/recreation.

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Reply #20 - Dec 8th, 2006 at 1:52am
 
hi all, my goodness this thread is over a year old. oh well.
Justin if you are here, which I doubt, I had a dream your name was Rudy.



regarding sleep deprivation. I was staying up all night studying french once, no sleep at all. my motivation was the teacher said I was flunking and I wanted to prove I could pass. I did get a B finally. Smiley
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all right, moving right along..I heard my neighbors voice speak very clearly towards dawn so that I had to look around the room to see if he were actually in the room. it was clairaudience, very much the same as an audible voice imprint. now did I want this? no! it was annoying. he was calling my name suggestively. Tongue  but I giggled too, as it was him, just not a physical him. least I knew what he was thinking now.  Sad 

wanted to ask why the original poster can't sleep but I doubt he's around after a year.
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Reply #21 - Dec 8th, 2006 at 7:06pm
 
Hey everyone,

I was just wondering when sleep deprived why is it we seem to be more connected to the other side than we we are awake and fully rested? I have noticed this in myself and also from a couple of posters, does it make communication easier or is it just the mind playing tricks?

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Reply #22 - Dec 8th, 2006 at 9:01pm
 
I think it's all together. When we don't sleep enough, the proper order of our concepts gets messed up. Normally we sort it all, here the physical, there dreams and so on, and when sleep deprived all gets mixed together.

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