Regressionists state that incarnations start at the lava level, then advance through higher forms, to finally the human.  The disk system, where it is a composite of entities that have gone before suggests that the disk takes sections from it's various parts creating a new spirit from those.  This is then sent to experience the human body.

This new unit, if it went to a regression hypnotist, would seem to be limited to remembering just the one life, back to it's creation at it's disk.  Or, would it be able to remember the pooled experiences of the whole disk?

Mr Satan

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In school, i was able to view my progress through each grade, and subsequent grades.  Sometimes i had friends that i kept for a few yrs, through a few grades.  I like that idea.  It's kind of like knowing where you have been through memories of your experiences.  So, yes it does matter to me, and i suspect to many others who consider reincarnation.

Mr Satan

Mairlyn:
In books by T. Lobsong Rampa, he mentioned oversouls. For instance you and I may have the same oversoul along with 5 or 6 other people. Therefore, it seems to me we could all tune in to each other's lifetimes and get confused who is who over time!

I really don't know the answer but it's interesting.

LightSeeker

i think the oversoul model appears compelling.

Something Elias would refer to as an "Essence".

I am not too sure and am only guessing but regressionists would start out from a linear perspective and hence be prejudiced from the outset as to formulating a conceptual/coherent model of lives.

it is all valid work which they do but they do start from the premise of going back from this life to the last or skip a few and go back 8 lives.  its still a linear perspective.


some hypnotherapists may just start off by taking (or widening) your awareness to gain an appreciation of the "all that you are" and not just taking you back and fourth to other personality/lives you have lived.

From the oversoul perspective, you then could choose to focus on a particular life.  

So from that perspective, you are more than all of those lives (eg more than a thousand or so ) and also have the ability to focus in on a specific life.

I have also read Elias talking about you having "observing" focuses as well as direct experience focuses. ie instances where you experience life second rather than first hand through other people.

As Mairlyn notes, does it really matter which are yours and which are others?  

I think not really

THIS is the life that counts.  

Gaining an appreciation of other lives is beneficial in widening your belief systems about what you are capable of and the "all that you are" rather than being over-attached to certain elements of THIS life.


Scott

So then, each discrete unit of essence gets one ride around the meat merrygoround, and then goes through the various stages of recovery as it makes it's way back to be reintegrated into it's disk/higher self/oversoul?

Mr Satan

Alright, let's say that you only get one spin in an earthbody, then you go back to your disk.  It removes self improvement as an incentive.  

As a possible purpose, it leaves only getting experience and perhaps doing some specific tasks.  Since there may be thousands in your disk, and they have had all kinds of experiences, that need is somewhat reduced, unless certain experiences are desired and then sought out again and again.  Further, if memories of all lives ever lived, human, plant, animal and bug are available to all presently alive, it would make another huge reduction in types of experiences that have not been experienced yet.  This is excluding the new tech ways of doing the same old things, such as for instance writing letters/mail. 

Mr Satan

Yes, I remember reading this too. I believe it was a dog and this really threw me. I've always wondered about that as I didn't think that animals could incarnate as humans. And yet I've known some dogs who are a lot smarter than many humans and they are here to show us Pure Unconditional Love.

Love, Mairlyn

Hi Mr S -

I'm one of those "regression hypnotherapists" types. (On the Visitor page I'm advertising for research volunteers if you're in my area.) Scott's right that we tend to be linear, because memory seems to be a linear progression. However, many people have lifetimes that occur in recent time, then in long past time, then in recent time, then maybe as an animal long ago, and so on. So the "linearity" kinda fades into a concept of sequences, as opposed to linear time and causality.

The second factor that seems to be involved is that when we go "into the spirit world", we actually don't go to a different "place", but simply into a different modality. (This is what I'm interested in researching.) The first aspect is that we are already all over the place. While alive, the locus of your life force is more or less centered inside your skin, but it leaks out into the world every time you do something. In other words, your skin is not the limit of your life force's embodiment. In fact, much of the space in which we exist is also being used by many others. What we call "karma" is actually just the extended actions of our life force as it circulates through the surrounding world.

The second aspect is that when we reincarnate, we don't necessarily bring all our life force into each lifetime. We tend to focus on those things that dominate our intention (defined as in the "Silly Little Finger Moving Exercise") even if that space might be shared by other actors' life forces as well, so that we bring back interaction tendencies as well as a new definition of self. Hence we also being back "karma" in the sense of our life forces still circulating in those places.

I've been doing regressions for over ten years, but I've never specifically asked anyone to look for the maximum breadth of their awareness during a regression. My guess is that they would report that they have total access to everything as a sort of extended embodiment. Most folks report that they have "instant access" to everything in the Cosmos, but they still retain their individually unique viewpoint, and thet they are looking at stuff. This suggests that to ask whether recall is only of one person, or of everybody, or of bits and pieces of some collective spiritual Erector Set from which we build an incarnation, is going to give us a misleading answer. If everything is everything else, then all three cases are correct, but they are non-exclusive. For example, You are Me, but your view of it differs from mine because we have different viewpoints.

I have a quick "multi-dimensional viewing" technique on my web site if you want to pursue this. The site is "mind-body-spirit-hypnoclinic.com" , and is mostly oriented toward people teaching past life techniques, but the technique is given on one of the pages if you look for it long enough. Otherwise, if you're ever in the San Jose or San Luis Obispo area, give me a call and we'll have a look.

dave