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To be pregnant or not to be.. (Read 9982 times)
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Reply #15 - Feb 25th, 2005 at 12:32pm
 
Linh,

One more thing:

This is a good thing for the world:
"Another part of me wants to enjoy parenthood"

It is not selfish to want to love a child, to raise a child with love.Smiley

(my 2 more cents)
Carolyn
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Reply #16 - Feb 25th, 2005 at 7:06pm
 
Dear Linh~

I just want to let you know how touched I was by your reply!  Thank you so much!  The care and deep love you put into your reply to us demonstrates what an incredible mother you are going to be.  I congratulate you on reaching a decision you feel comfortable with...and, like Kathy, I just know you have so much to look forward to. 

Wishing you much happiness...love, Sydnei
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Reply #17 - Feb 26th, 2005 at 5:50pm
 
Linh,

Great dilemma to pose!  Having choices can sometimes be a bummer.  As I get older, I like to see the dilemmas posed by the younger generations.  Also I like this thread because it discusses parents and children, a topic dear to my heart.  I haven’t seen my children in a long time, as it seems to me.  Actually it’s probably been over a year since I saw then but we do keep the heart connection going thru phone contact. 

I do want to mention that my experience with having children was one big learning curve. Originally I thought it was all about me teaching them.  That’s how naive I was.  They’re all grown now-one’s mission is to insure that our big companies don’t do funny accounting, the next making sure our California wines are of the best quality, and the last helping to bring the 2005 poker championships into our homes.  Two of them were unplanned and the other; their father and I worked very hard to bring him into the world. (I early on imagined that he was a monk meditating in a cave in a former life?) That one was the most challenging, translated means that I learned the most about being a decent human being from. One of them, so far, has provided me with, what I suspect, is one Indigo child and one Crystal child.  I was devastated and had a systems crash when I had to leave them all with only an average of 10 years each hands on parenting by me.  I decided to step back and give my sons the father that neither of their parents ever had.  They also had the side bonus of a loving stepmother who has since died. I also believe/imagine that the three of us parents sat down with our guides and divvied up our roles or chores that revolved around the raising of the 3 brothers before we all came here.  That may be just a fantasy because I haven’t really checked that one out yet on the other level but I did mail the tale to my former husbands wife and it did help in healing our relationship the year before she died.  (But Hey, the crazy things we do in attempts to heal a relationship) But the upside was that I was able to start my spiritual journey in earnest without the worry of passing my belief systems about spiritual matters on to my impressionable young sons.  My value doesn’t include teaching religion to children except maybe in a very general historical way.  I prefer to model my values, which include my faults and acting like a jerk sometimes as my human right. 

When I was a live-in parent, I had attempted to give them the truth that they were lovable, capable, and unique. I think that the message took because it’s obvious to me that they’re each unique and capable and the love that I feel from them when we talk is palatable to me.  Concerning the unplanned ones, I tend to view them more as having chosen me as their mother.  And if it wasn’t for them choosing me, I would have spent a lot more time debating, as any responsible prospective parent tends to do, the should I and shouldn’t I question.  I was further complicated by their father leaning definitely towards not wanting children.  But then I remembered that I had always wanted 3 sons-3 years apart because I imagined it would be as fun as it was for me having my 3 younger brothers.  My remembering this brought on the should we stay married or not dilemma. We did stay married till the children were here and once I learned to mellow out after taking Gordon’s PET classes and becoming a PET instructor, it was as fun as I had imagined. As far as the difficulty in raising them, it ran both ways, and then I came across Ashley Brilliant’s question, “Is it harder to be the parent of a child or the child of a parent?” and laughed.  And as to an attitude to take towards raising them, I always agreed with Gilbran’s Speak to Us of Children from The Prophet.  It’s right on for me.

To comment on whether or not you should have a child, I wouldn’t dare to persuade you either way except for stating that by having a child you might interpret it as your personal sign that you have hope in the future. I do not envy your 2005’s predicament; there are no guarantees what direction yours or your child learning curve might lead or how you or she/he might react to the experience.  When I was at that point, 1950’s values dictated that of course a woman did have children especially if she didn’t have a career and she had to have a hard working husband to do it.  I usually balked at the word duty because it bordered on the dictate that it was a woman’s duty to have children and I usually   rebelled at the shoulds.  I feel them in my gut and I’ve learned that I need to really weigh them before I automatically rebel against them and cut off my nose to spite my face. At the time, I also felt a little guilty that I was using being a mother as a cop out from getting a high education and a paying career.  Now a days, it’s assumed that the mother has to be prepared to do it all.  I think that’s as sad as the other extreme.  As it turned out, I was the first woman in my family to go to college and started when my first child was only 2 years old.  I finally graduated at 60 years old, over 35 years later and started my first official career within a month of graduation.  Who would of thunk that life for me would have turned out the way it did? But then again, I loosely quote that great prophet, John Lennon, Life is what happens when your making other plans. Or if you believe in God, I pass on the joke, “If you want to make God laugh? Tell him your plans!”

As an aside, when I am in the grips of feeling fearful, I picture them and the love we share, going in either direction in my heart area, and it desolves my fear instantly.

Thanks for giving me this opportunity to blab and share my story regarding children. I hope it helps. It certainly brings me closer to my sons.

Love, Jean
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Reply #18 - Mar 1st, 2005 at 3:43pm
 
Hello,

is it normal to have an idea of who you're going to  bring into this world...  I don't even have a girlfriend to make babies with, but I have had some intuitions about what that person might be like, and what kind of energies this person will bring into this world. It makes me smile... the impression I get is someone with an inner stillness and balance, and strong will.. a wise soul (wiser than me, that's for sure). I hope it is more than just wishfull thinking, as I would very much like to meet that person Smiley

A girl with dark hair... raven black hair, which I find curious. It's the colour of the hair that seems most obvious in all these pictures.
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Reply #19 - Mar 1st, 2005 at 7:14pm
 
nrgstream:

Doreen Virtue has mentioned that an increasing number of couples are seeking-out crystal children to parent.

There was also a call to Coast to Coast AM while she was on the air by man who claimed that a crystal asked him to be a "God-Parent" of sorts.

Seems this fellow once dated a woman who is now married to his friend and pregnant. This child has asked for his assistance in regards to supporting  the woman and her husband, and was concerned that he agree to do so before that crystal child would feel completely safe in this world.

Now, on the face of it, that sounds like a really cool story. The same thing happened to me last summer when I was conversing with an Indigo friend of mine who flatly stated that he knew for certain that he'd entered this life to remain childless.

The only problem is, a crystal kid got my attention right then, and begged to differ. "I need him and my mother to enter this world." I didn’t share that information at the time because it seemed nosey for me to do so, and I felt a little silly. Eventually, I did acquiesce, sharing that, and a lot of other information in that regard with him.

Dr. Virtue says that do "parent-in" a crystal is a matter of intent. In other words, these new parents—who are often Indigo adults that have awakened to who they are and why they're here—agree both HERE and THERE to making such a partnership manifest.

I'm pleased you've shared your yearnings here, in this place, and on this thread.

AS to wisdom, "...wiser than me, that's for sure..." Nah, I don't buy that. I guess you do need to apply care in seeking out your mate. I can’t wait to hear what develops.

Peace,

Herb
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Reply #20 - Mar 2nd, 2005 at 5:29am
 
Hello Herb... thank you for sharing your experiences with indigos, it helps a lot. I myself I'm trying to figure out my own indigo personality... and the idea of having kids is something I've had the most trouble with. In fact, I've tried not to think about it. Will I ever be "mature" enough to take on the traditional role as a parent.. probably not. However, if my intuitions are correct, our little family will be one of cooperation... more balanced family dynamics.

You're right, "wiser than" is perhaps not the right way to put it. But due to my worries about the future, it's like this person has come through to show me that it's going to be allright. I feel more at ease now than I used to.

(EDIT: and I have an idea of what my soul mate is like.. don't know when I'll meet her, but she is on my mind all the time, so that must mean something Smiley )
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Re: To be pregnant or not to be..
Reply #21 - Mar 3rd, 2005 at 11:37am
 
Hi Linh,

After reading this thread, I can see the LOVE and LIGHT that you will be giving to a child. Being the vehicle for bringing in a child now, especially a Crystal child is a wonderful privilege.  Some women just aren't meant to have children. You are not one of them. I feel that, because you are exploring this so consciously, that you have come up with the right decision. Please keep us advised of when you do become pregnant so that we can rejoice with you. Wink

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Reply #22 - Mar 3rd, 2005 at 12:43pm
 
Its awkward, because I never clicked on this topic because I saw the word "pregnant" and my manly stupidity was like "you can't get pregnant fool, move on to another topic"...lol! But after reading it, I too have had the same delimma. My wife wants a 3rd child, but I too feel like is it worth it to expose another child to the "ills" of the World and Life??

Well, we don't have a 3rd child on the way now, and I still do not want one, but I know I will have to face this decision sooner or later. Reading these posts does open up my mind alot on the topic. I am the type person who does not believe in playing house....like I HAVE to have a boy and a girl and a dog and a nice car.....I don't like to have children like they are objects or pawns. They come when the time is right in my opinion, and once they do come, they change your life for the better, because NOTHING can teach you about what love REALLY is until you have children...no relationship with any friend, woman, or other can show you what life and love is truly about until you have a part of YOU there to love unconditionally.

I honestly think that without my two sons, i wouldn't even be here because I chose to redefine my values once I had children. I love them so much that I think that it takes away from how much I should love myself and other things! My advice for anyone is have children if it fits into your criteria....but do not force it and know what you are getting into and make sure the environment is right for children and last but not least...PRAY!!
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Reply #23 - Mar 4th, 2005 at 10:58pm
 
JG--excellent post!   I don't have children by choice.  I believe I'm one of those women who shouldn't, but I have 2 wonderful nephews and I didn't know what love was until they came along.   Cheesy
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Re: To be pregnant or not to be..-UPDATE
Reply #24 - Sep 13th, 2006 at 7:08pm
 
Hello my friends,

It has been ages since I have been on this message board. A lot have happened to me since I asked the question "to pregnant or not to be".

I have been a new mother since 12/13/05 to a beautiful son who is 9 month-old to date. He is the love of my life. My son, even at this early age , exhibits a strong personality. Sometimes, he is a handful because he seems to know too much as if he remembers being on earth before.

There is a part of me that hopes that he is a reincarnate of my teenage client who committed suicide when he was coming to see me for therapy. As his mother this time around, I think and hope that I will be able to help him live his life to the fullest and that he will not end his life, again.  --Is it crazy of me to hope my son is somebody who died?

Anyways, I am enjoying motherhood and will keep you guys posted of things. =)

Much love,
Linh
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Reply #25 - Sep 13th, 2006 at 11:09pm
 
I remember you Linh and you've been busy! glad u went ahead and had a child. the rewards will outnumber the sorrows my opinion. maybe as time goes on you will know whether this child is the same as your client, but I don't see that u should be worried to think it is the same soul. stranger things have happened to people and it could be true.
welcome back and let us know when he starts talking if he says anything to confirm your suspicions..hugs, alysia
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Reply #26 - Sep 14th, 2006 at 12:52am
 
Congratulations Linh on the birth of your baby. I guess you have been busy for quite awhile.  Your son is definitely someone who died and reincarnated. Perhaps you'll be able to find out who he was with meditation.

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