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Just introducing myself
Feb 5th, 2005 at 3:14pm
 
Hi guys,thought I'd make the effort and join in instead of lurking like I have been for a long time.
I must confess that for the 2 years or so that I've been studying this subject I stuck with reading Robert Bruces material hoping to have an OBE or Astral Projection,but with no luck.I had a go with Wave 1 of the Gateway Series a while back but never managed to reach Focus Ten so gave up on that real quick,but now I'm back on it and having a go with using Bruce's methods as it may be more suited to me.I suffer from a mild form of Tourettes syndrome and find it extremley difficult to relax and remain still due to nervous twitching,it's not too bad at the minute and I feel I may be getting somewhere but I find that I either fall asleep before Bob's voice calls me back out of Focus Ten or I never actually feel like my body is anywhere near to being asleep.
If anyone can help me with this by passing on some advice I'd be eternally grateful.

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Mark
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Re: Just introducing myself
Reply #1 - Feb 5th, 2005 at 3:57pm
 
Dear Mark,

Until recently I was a regular poster on Robert Bruce's site.  I also have dabbled with my complete set of Gateway CDs, but have yet not explored them in a longterm disciplined way.  I think they're great, but just too time consuming.  I have had one retrieval experience and a few OBEs that thrilled me at the time.  But upon further reflection, I reluctantly came to the conclusion that they were nothing more than lucid dreams fueled by wishful thinking.  By plunging into discussions and debates on this site, I hope to soften my skeptical mindset enough to work with the tapes in a motivated and disciplined manner.

But the real reason I'm replying to your post is ask if you own the new book co-authored by Robert Bruce and Brian Mercer, "Mastering Astral Projection."  From browsing it, I have the impression that it is the best book of its kind ever written.  I'll  let you know if it works for me.  My preliminary plan is to build motivational momentum to work regularly with the Gateway tapes first.  After all they cost me over $500!  My intincts tell me that the R. Bruce-Mercer book woiuld be more effective.  So I'm a bit torn. I'd recommend that you not buy this book until you've had a chance to browse it, say, at at Barnes and Noble bookstore.

If you're wondering why I've so far overlooked Bruce Moen's new book, it's not from lack of respect.  In fact, long before I ever heard of Bruce Moen, I once experienced a mystical flash insight that the afterlife could be explored through a disciplined use of the imagination.  That insight is what drew me to this site.  But Bruce Moen's book is not designed to cultivate OBEs and I think I need a genuine OBE to be convinced about this type of afterlife exploration.  If my priority approaches fail, I'll definitely buy Bruce Moen's new book and give his approach a shot.  Good luck with your quest.

Don
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Reply #2 - Feb 6th, 2005 at 5:12am
 
Hi guys,thanks for replying.

Don,yes I have Robert and Brians new book,3 weeks ago I ordered Bruces first 4 books(on book 3 so far) along with Mastering Astral Projection and Psychic Self Defence.I'd already read Astral Dynamics and Bob Monroe's first two.I was actually having a read of MAP in bed this morning and decided to follow just the energy,relaxation,and mind taming parts,ignoring the OBE part due to time constraints.All I want to achieve for the time being is Focus Ten or a Full Trance state,that would really make my day.I'm looking forward to seeing the effect energy work has on my dreaming too.

Herb I'm sure I had a look through that site a long time ago when I was first learning about this sort of thing,I must read it through again.I've taken note of you saying meditation helps you greatly too,would the mind taming exercises from MAP be pretty much the same thing? I've never really had much of a go with meditation but am interested.

Mark
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