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Different method to contact the dead
Oct 27th, 2003 at 6:31am
 
Here are two interesting web sites:

http://induced-adc.com

(induced after death contact)

http://www.emdr.com/

(eye movement therapy)

Using eye movement therapy, it has been possible to induce after
death contact experiances. People are seeing and talking to
departed relatives, according to the above site.

Here are some excerpts from those web sites:

How EMDR works is still a matter of some debate. However, most
psychologists familiar with the procedure would agree that it
somehow greatly increases the brain's ability to process
information. Shapiro's "Accelerated Information Processing" model
is consistent with clinical observations. It has been known for
some time that the shifting of the eyes is associated with
increased brain processing. The most familiar example is that of
rapid eye movement (REM) sleep, which occurs when we dream. It is
generally agreed that the increased processing that occurs during
dreaming causes the eyes to shift back and forth. With EMDR it
appears that the reverse is also true, that a purposeful shifting
of the eyes causes an increase in the brain's ability to process
information, and the patient is fully awake and alert during the
entire process.
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After this, the client is instructed to focus on the image,
negative thought, and body sensations while simultaneously moving
his/her eyes back and forth following the therapist's fingers as
they move across his/her field of vision for 20-30 seconds or more,
depending upon the need of the client.
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Re: Different method to contact the dead
Reply #1 - Nov 6th, 2003 at 12:14am
 
:  Here are two interesting web sites:

http://induced-adc.com

:  (induced after death contact)

http://www.emdr.com/

:  (eye movement therapy)

:  Using eye movement therapy, it has been possible to induce after
:  death contact experiances. People are seeing and talking to
:  departed relatives, according to the above site.

:  Here are some excerpts from those web sites:

:  How EMDR works is still a matter of some debate. However, most
:  psychologists familiar with the procedure would agree that it
:  somehow greatly increases the brain's ability to process
:  information. Shapiro's "Accelerated Information Processing" model
:  is consistent with clinical observations. It has been known for
:  some time that the shifting of the eyes is associated with
:  increased brain processing. The most familiar example is that of
:  rapid eye movement (REM) sleep, which occurs when we dream. It is
:  generally agreed that the increased processing that occurs during
:  dreaming causes the eyes to shift back and forth. With EMDR it
:  appears that the reverse is also true, that a purposeful shifting
:  of the eyes causes an increase in the brain's ability to process
:  information, and the patient is fully awake and alert during the
:  entire process.
:  --------------
:  After this, the client is instructed to focus on the image,
:  negative thought, and body sensations while simultaneously moving
:  his/her eyes back and forth following the therapist's fingers as
I think it is very true about the brains ability to processing when the eyes shift because my cousin has a illness called narcolepsy and she can fall into a deep sleep within 2 minutes top but yet on the other hand she will be totally aware of whats going on around her but can also have dreams that seem to last for hours and yet talk to someone while all this is going on as if she is awake very hard to explain this but i do understand sometimes it is so confusing she depends on others to tell what was dreaming and what was reality because she can do both at the same time she not sure if what she was dreaming was realy going on and sometimes it is she has had several brain studies the only thing she really found out is that she goes into rem sleep after 2 minutes she loses control of her muscles in her eyes



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Reply #2 - Oct 28th, 2003 at 6:29am
 
Hello Boris,

This sounds quite like hypnotizing to achieve this? Not that I think it makes this more or less valid. People have been using hypnotizing to explore past lives for a while I guess, and most get dismissed because alot seem to have been 'famous' charactors from the past, maybe them charactors just left a stronger impression eh?

The site looked good and talked openly of the placebo effect and how that was a possible reason of the succes they have, nice to see a good level of objectivity.

Ta for link

peace love empathy
Simon
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Reply #3 - Oct 28th, 2003 at 11:54am
 
I only discovered the site on Monday, and have not read all of it.

Below is a quote which is one of my themes: the way information is
stored but not processed by connection to other parts of the mind.
I am glad to see this idea appearing in a professional paper.
Quote:
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When a traumatic or very negative event occurs, information
processing may be incomplete, perhaps because strong negative
feelings or dissociation interfere with information processing.
This prevents the forging of connections with more adaptive
information that is held in other memory networks.
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In the cases I am thinking of, "forging of connections" may be
prevented by established belief systems. Yes indeed. That is why
the twin towers went down.

Here are some more quotes:
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The EMDR technique involves getting the patient to move his or her
eyes in a particular rhythmic fashion while at the same time
attending to a particular aspect of the traumatic memory. The
therapeutic results, to those familiar with the treatment of PTSD
and grief, are nothing less than astonishing. For many patients,
significant desensitization of the intrusive images and feelings
associated with a particular loss can occur within a single
session. Similarly, EMDR also results in a rapid cognitive
restructuring of the traumatic event. We are thus in many instances
able to achieve in one session of EMDR what we had been unable to
accomplish after years of traditional psychotherapy.
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Qualifications for Attending:
A clinical background is necessary for the effective application of
EMDR. Attendance at the workshop is limited to mental health
professionals who have a masters degree or higher in the mental
health field and are licensed or certified through a state or
national board which authorizes independent practice
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In other words, they don't seem to tell you how to do it.
It occurs to me that my eyes are moving back and forth whenever I
am reading something. Obviously it has to be more than that.

I hope if any qualified people find out how to do it, that they
will post it here, so that we unqualified reckless nutheads can
fool around with it. ( I am just being humerous).
A book will be forthcoming.
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